OP you did this last year on x factor, you would invent results every week and say you saw them somewhere else that was untraceable.
Supposed 'leaked' voting figures
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Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“He wasn't that bad (though he wasn't very good either) and he ended up as clearly the second best male and was personable which explains a big vote. If I remember though if you look at last year's figures its his vote that picks up after Colleen and Todd go. Its possible votes changed all over the place and we don't know how voting numbers increased but its pretty likely that quite a bit of the big chunk of votes that was backing Colleen/Todd went his way. It certainly didn't go to Jessica.
Mikey as tabithakitten explained has a ot of positives going for him - though many seem not to have anything to do with skating and you wonder how big a fan base he has actually compared to a Duncan or Gareth and whether it will be relatively so large later on. Perhaps 7-10 years matter and he's the right age to be known to and attract the age groups who vote? Dr Hilary isn't as bad as Todd and the judges have not been as unpleasant to him - which may explain why he has much fewer votes. It still leaves a big question why some people from morning/daytime TV get disproportionate support and others don't.”
“He wasn't that bad (though he wasn't very good either) and he ended up as clearly the second best male and was personable which explains a big vote. If I remember though if you look at last year's figures its his vote that picks up after Colleen and Todd go. Its possible votes changed all over the place and we don't know how voting numbers increased but its pretty likely that quite a bit of the big chunk of votes that was backing Colleen/Todd went his way. It certainly didn't go to Jessica.
Mikey as tabithakitten explained has a ot of positives going for him - though many seem not to have anything to do with skating and you wonder how big a fan base he has actually compared to a Duncan or Gareth and whether it will be relatively so large later on. Perhaps 7-10 years matter and he's the right age to be known to and attract the age groups who vote? Dr Hilary isn't as bad as Todd and the judges have not been as unpleasant to him - which may explain why he has much fewer votes. It still leaves a big question why some people from morning/daytime TV get disproportionate support and others don't.”
I would say Donal had the 'Journey' vote rather than an anti judge vote.
I don't think it's just Boyzone fans who are voting for Mikey. He comes across as fun & likeable as well as being a good skater. He's my favourite at the moment & I'm not particularly a Boyzone fan. Pre existing fan bases will only take you so far on a show. I suspect a lot of people who voted for Ray last year didn't watch him on X factor or preferred Leona; given Hearsay's short-lived career there can't be many people who voted for Suzanne on the back of that & I very much doubt it was Rugby fans who all voted for Kyran to win. How you come across in a show is key.
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“I would say Donal had the 'Journey' vote rather than an anti judge vote.
I don't think it's just Boyzone fans who are voting for Mikey. He comes across as fun & likeable as well as being a good skater. He's my favourite at the moment & I'm not particularly a Boyzone fan. Pre existing fan bases will only take you so far on a show. I suspect a lot of people who voted for Ray last year didn't watch him on X factor or preferred Leona; given Hearsay's short-lived career there can't be many people who voted for Suzanne on the back of that & I very much doubt it was Rugby fans who all voted for Kyran to win. How you come across in a show is key.”
“I would say Donal had the 'Journey' vote rather than an anti judge vote.
I don't think it's just Boyzone fans who are voting for Mikey. He comes across as fun & likeable as well as being a good skater. He's my favourite at the moment & I'm not particularly a Boyzone fan. Pre existing fan bases will only take you so far on a show. I suspect a lot of people who voted for Ray last year didn't watch him on X factor or preferred Leona; given Hearsay's short-lived career there can't be many people who voted for Suzanne on the back of that & I very much doubt it was Rugby fans who all voted for Kyran to win. How you come across in a show is key.”
True, but it depends a lot on if the figures are right. Not sure if Mikey is that much more fun or likeable than Gary to explain getting 20 + times the vote? You might think coming from one of ITV's biggest show would help Gary too . If the figures are wrong and Mikey's lead is much less, as you say it seems explicable. If the figures are right it might be consistent with being likeable and having a big (organised?) boyzone vote if voting numbers are not that high? Gary would still look low though.
The list is consistent with the betting too - both in the order and the size of the vote/odds lead (Dr H does less well as I imagine peopel assume he will fall into the bottom 2 and go or his vote will fall off at some point) Problem is that could be because the betting is informed by similar figures or because someone made up the list to support their betting chances or because someone used the betting odds to build up their list of voting prcentages
Originally Posted by Tortue:
“where are last years figures published. Are they still available?”
“where are last years figures published. Are they still available?”
They were released and we had a thread here but I can't find it. Can' find it on ITV.com either. May depend if someone tyoed it out or linked it and if link still works. Will look again. Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing...)#Public_votes
tells you who was where but not the vote percentages.
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“Donal topped the vote before Colleen even left and beat her in the votes a few times. He was holding his own by improving not gaining support when no hopers left.”
“Donal topped the vote before Colleen even left and beat her in the votes a few times. He was holding his own by improving not gaining support when no hopers left.”
Donal beat Colleen in week 8 and week 10 the week she went. Donal went up from 5th to 4th when Todd left (though he had been 4th before) . He moved to third when Ellery left. He was third for 3 of the next 4 weeks (first for the second of the four week 8) and he moved into second place the week after Colleen left. Jessica beat him with Colleen in the vote in week 10 , Donal beat Jessica the next week after when Colleen had left and he stayed there. Thats consistent with picking up votes from those people and Jessica and Zoe don't pick up places when those people go. Would need to refind the percentages to be more convincing (or less) but can't find them.
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Emily had 2.2% more than Danielle ??
Criminal if true !”
“Emily had 2.2% more than Danielle ??
Criminal if true !”
I think that Daniella has twice Jessica or Zoe's vote though so things may have improved.
My question with Emily is why? Nice girl, seems to be trying, has a go at some decent lifts but she's not that good yet. Melinda didn't do that well last year so can it be the pro's fans argument? perhaps its teh automatic vote for whoever is last theory? With Emily too we know she is top 5 in the vote so its not as if its that incredible.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Donal beat Colleen in week 8 and week 10 the week she went. Donal went up from 5th to 4th when Todd left (though he had been 4th before) . He moved to third when Ellery left. He was third for 3 of the next 4 weeks (first for the second of the four week 8) and he moved into second place the week after Colleen left. Jessica beat him with Colleen in the vote in week 10 , Donal beat Jessica the next week after when Colleen had left and he stayed there. Thats consistent with picking up votes from those people and Jessica and Zoe don't pick up places when those people go. Would need to refind the percentages to be more convincing (or less) but can't find them.”
“Donal beat Colleen in week 8 and week 10 the week she went. Donal went up from 5th to 4th when Todd left (though he had been 4th before) . He moved to third when Ellery left. He was third for 3 of the next 4 weeks (first for the second of the four week 8) and he moved into second place the week after Colleen left. Jessica beat him with Colleen in the vote in week 10 , Donal beat Jessica the next week after when Colleen had left and he stayed there. Thats consistent with picking up votes from those people and Jessica and Zoe don't pick up places when those people go. Would need to refind the percentages to be more convincing (or less) but can't find them.”
But you could argue it's just as likely a lot of Colleen voters stopped voting altogether and Donal picked up a lot of brand new voters as loads of people follow it but don't vote until the last few weeks or til the final.
Todd's vote could have gone anywhere or nowhere and might just as was well have gone to Ray or any of the others. People are quite capable of voting for the best and the worst at the same time.
It's really impossible to second guess people's reasons. The voting percentages at this stage of the game aren't terribly meaningful in the grand scheme of things so doesn't really matter if OP is right or just making it up.
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“If that was true how comes Gary wasn't in the bottom two with Danny”
“If that was true how comes Gary wasn't in the bottom two with Danny”
Because his combined judges and viewer vote would have been higher than Tanya's that is if we are to believe the leaked figures
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“They were released and we had a thread here but I can't find it. Can' find it on ITV.com either. May depend if someone tyoed it out or linked it and if link still works. Will look again. Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing...)#Public_votes
tells you who was where but not the vote percentages.”
“They were released and we had a thread here but I can't find it. Can' find it on ITV.com either. May depend if someone tyoed it out or linked it and if link still works. Will look again. Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing...)#Public_votes
tells you who was where but not the vote percentages.”
Thanks for that. I found the thread you mentioned and someone had made a chart up showing the positions but not the percentages. It was very interesting
I can't believe how well Coleen did. Out of interest does anyone know roughly what percentage she regularly achieved
These cannot be true.
I have combined the votes together, and the bottom two works out as Tana and Heather.
As much as I hate to say it, for this to be true Heather's percentage must be higher. Either that, or Danny must have got something bizarre like 0.5% which I really don't believe judging by the amount of support I am seeing for him.
Best to ignore them.
I have combined the votes together, and the bottom two works out as Tana and Heather.
As much as I hate to say it, for this to be true Heather's percentage must be higher. Either that, or Danny must have got something bizarre like 0.5% which I really don't believe judging by the amount of support I am seeing for him.
Best to ignore them.
Mikey Melanie 21
Haley Daniel 20
Daniella Matthew 16
Hilary Alexandra 13
Kieron Brianne 12
Sharron Pavel 11
Gary Maria 10
Emily Fred 10
Heather Matt 9
Danny Frankie 8
Tana Stuart 7
If those figures are true then there would've been the overall standings, consider that these days if there's a tie i.e. two couples on 6 points, then the next couple gets 5 instead of four for some reason
This happened this week meaning no couple got 1 from the judges.
Haley Daniel 20
Daniella Matthew 16
Hilary Alexandra 13
Kieron Brianne 12
Sharron Pavel 11
Gary Maria 10
Emily Fred 10
Heather Matt 9
Danny Frankie 8
Tana Stuart 7
If those figures are true then there would've been the overall standings, consider that these days if there's a tie i.e. two couples on 6 points, then the next couple gets 5 instead of four for some reason
This happened this week meaning no couple got 1 from the judges.
Originally Posted by icedragon:
“But you could argue it's just as likely a lot of Colleen voters stopped voting altogether and Donal picked up a lot of brand new voters as loads of people follow it but don't vote until the last few weeks or til the final.
Todd's vote could have gone anywhere or nowhere and might just as was well have gone to Ray or any of the others. People are quite capable of voting for the best and the worst at the same time.
It's really impossible to second guess people's reasons. The voting percentages at this stage of the game aren't terribly meaningful in the grand scheme of things so doesn't really matter if OP is right or just making it up.”
“But you could argue it's just as likely a lot of Colleen voters stopped voting altogether and Donal picked up a lot of brand new voters as loads of people follow it but don't vote until the last few weeks or til the final.
Todd's vote could have gone anywhere or nowhere and might just as was well have gone to Ray or any of the others. People are quite capable of voting for the best and the worst at the same time.
It's really impossible to second guess people's reasons. The voting percentages at this stage of the game aren't terribly meaningful in the grand scheme of things so doesn't really matter if OP is right or just making it up.
”
It may in the sense that if you have no votes now you may not have that many more at the end - Jessica and Zoe picked up votes last year but they got nowhere near the males in front of them after starting from tiny votes and spent most of their their time competing between themselves for who had a few more percentage points or points of points. It also torpedoes, if true, the possibility that Heather has a big "achievement" vote which might be expected to be higher earlier on. It also suggests why Dr H and Emily are still there and explains Gary and Danny's position in the dance off. I agree its still a race at the top but if the leak was right there would already be some horses looking like they would come in a long way behind the winner.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“I think that Daniella has twice Jessica or Zoe's vote though so things may have improved.
My question with Emily is why? Nice girl, seems to be trying, has a go at some decent lifts but she's not that good yet. Melinda didn't do that well last year so can it be the pro's fans argument? perhaps its teh automatic vote for whoever is last theory? With Emily too we know she is top 5 in the vote so its not as if its that incredible.”
“I think that Daniella has twice Jessica or Zoe's vote though so things may have improved.
My question with Emily is why? Nice girl, seems to be trying, has a go at some decent lifts but she's not that good yet. Melinda didn't do that well last year so can it be the pro's fans argument? perhaps its teh automatic vote for whoever is last theory? With Emily too we know she is top 5 in the vote so its not as if its that incredible.”
Not sure she's even a nice girl. She comes across as rather a stroppy little madam in my opinion, not very good at taking any criticism, even constructive.
No idea why she's getting such high votes.
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