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Old 05-02-2010, 12:09
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Update worked OK for me. Can't see anything different and all settings unchanged.

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Old 05-02-2010, 13:20
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Additional Functions and Fixed Problems

Application: HPRSFCI 1.00.13

*MHEG improvements
*Improved Manual Network settings
Its early days but I don't now seem to be having the aspect ratio switching problems that 1.0.12 introduced on my Panasonic TV.
I had to use the internal up-scaler to 1080i to prevent spurious AR switching.

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Old 05-02-2010, 14:17
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I just went to do a manual update, only to find it had already updated!

The Network details are now correct, except the second octet (the number after the first 'dot') of the DNS server address changes every time you go to the screen. I did left-arrow, right-arrow a few times and that second number was different every time. I'm not sure there are really that many DNS servers out there, and you would not normally switch the one you use unless it stops working. So only 9.9 out out 10 for fixing the Network address issues (which is one of the two things they are claiming to have fixed).
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Old 05-02-2010, 15:20
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Its early days but I don't now seem to be having the aspect ratio switching problems that 1.0.12 introduced on my Panasonic TV.
Seems the same with my Panasonic TV. It's not switching properly between 4:3 and 16:9 like it did before version 12.
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Old 05-02-2010, 16:24
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I thought it strange but my 6year old Plasma is now on 4:3 and will not go to Widescreen..
It's on Scart of course..
I do not want to disconnect PLUGS etc..
so could this be a Plasma problem not connected with the Humax?
Graham et al said it was an old Computer type screen..
the picture is Brill as always..straight edges and rock steady..
I wonder if a power failure could cause a relapse to a more manageable configuration..
Any Ideas please.. TA

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Old 05-02-2010, 16:32
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How do you update the loader via USB?

I've downloaded the newest loader software, renamed it, and put it in the root of the usb stick.

I put it in, tuned the power off and back on while keeping the standby button held in, but nothing happened?
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:04
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How do you update the loader via USB?

I've downloaded the newest loader software, renamed it, and put it in the root of the usb stick.


I put it in, tuned the power off and back on while keeping the standby button held in, but nothing happened?
Firstly when you renamed the file could you see the existing .hdr in the filename if not you have file extension display disabled so you may have called it FOXSAT_HDR_upgrade.hdf.hdf. If so just delete the extra .hdf

It's got to be the sby button on the hdr not the remote. If that does not work try a different usb stick
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:08
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Firstly when you renamed the file could you see the existing .hdr in the filename if not you have file extension display disabled so you may have called it FOXSAT_HDR_upgrade.hdf.hdf. If so just delete the extra .hdf

It's got to be the sby button on the hdr not the remote. If that does not work try a different usb stick
Ahh cheers, yes it was the file renaming that was the problem, thanks.
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:28
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I've been waiting for this OTA software update download since I first read the OP and switched on especially today to get it to happen before my daughter got in from school and moaned about the delay...

No software update! Tried automatic then manual software update, still no joy (dialogue box came up saying 'no new software'). Had a look at the 'diagnostics' section: software version 1.00.13 done on 16 January, weeks ago! Doh!
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Old 05-02-2010, 17:36
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I've been waiting for this OTA software update download since I first read the OP and switched on especially today to get it to happen before my daughter got in from school and moaned about the delay...

No software update! Tried automatic then manual software update, still no joy (dialogue box came up saying 'no new software'). Had a look at the 'diagnostics' section: software version 1.00.13 done on 16 January, weeks ago! Doh!
It did it last night. It only went OTA yesterday. The dates the date the file was produced not the date it was updated.
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Old 05-02-2010, 18:03
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Unfortunately the rename hasn't worked.

FOXSAT_HDR_upgrade.hdf

I've renamed it that, without the extra .hdf.

Do I turn the box off at the main power switch on the back, put the usb stick in, turn it back on while holding the front standby switch in for 30 seconds or more?
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Old 05-02-2010, 18:15
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Unfortunately the rename hasn't worked.

FOXSAT_HDR_upgrade.hdf

I've renamed it that, without the extra .hdf.

Do I turn the box off at the main power switch on the back, put the usb stick in, turn it back on while holding the front standby switch in for 30 seconds or more?
You put the usb drive in the front usb slot with the hdr in sby. Turn on the TV and select whatever input you use to watch TV. Prees and hold the front sby button.

The hdr can be quite fussy which usb drives it works with so if you can try another pen drive
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Old 05-02-2010, 18:21
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One minor oddity I noted directly after the update had been done was that the screen seemed to be "shimmering" slightly (don't really now how to describe it).

When I checked the front display none of the display options were lit (i.e. 576i, 720p etc). After pressing the V-format button and selecting "original" the HDR display and the TV picture went back to normal.
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Old 05-02-2010, 20:20
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We used to call it 'Dotcrawl' way back in the ZX Spectrum days

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Old 06-02-2010, 15:19
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The Network details are now correct, except the second octet (the number after the first 'dot') of the DNS server address changes every time you go to the screen. I did left-arrow, right-arrow a few times and that second number was different every time.
I cannot replicate this.
It is possible to have more than one DNS server from DHCP but in my case, I have only one. My Netgear router acts as a DNS relay for the "real" DNS servers.

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Old 06-02-2010, 18:31
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HDMI Widescreen signal still not working on my Panasonic TV

When Humax boot loader banner comes up the TV switches to wide from 4:3 but after boot completes the 16:9 picture is shown in a 4:3 window.

So just like last century, I have to manually set the TV to 16:9 for use with the HDR

A backward step

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Old 06-02-2010, 20:43
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As I reported my old Hitachi Plasma did the same thing ..
I took all the power off and left it for an hour or so..
Upon reconnection everything is now fine..
so I imagine that some impulse was fired in to the controls which did in fact just what Automan's set up did..
Hope this helps.
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Old 07-02-2010, 19:16
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It did it last night. It only went OTA yesterday. The dates the date the file was produced not the date it was updated.
Graham's The Man! Thanks for the explanation!
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Old 07-02-2010, 21:04
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I realised that it was on 7.53 and I updated myself. Does that mean it's not fixable? Not sure I follow your logic. I would have thought it was fixable although I can't claim to know their code at all. Maybe at some point ahead???
My guess would be this fundamental to the hardware.

When you put the HDR in standby, I imagine it sets the equivalent of a BIOS timer wakeup. Removing the power probably loses this information (and as a consumer product, this might be considered desirable from the point-of-view of performing a simple reset).

When the power is restored, the HDR doesn't boot up automatically - it goes straight to standby.

To fix this problem, I think the hardware behaviour would need to be changed so that restoring power caused the machine to boot up. Perhaps this is possible by modifying the bootloader, or maybe it's hard and that's why Humax haven't done so ?
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:31
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My guess would be this fundamental to the hardware.

When you put the HDR in standby, I imagine it sets the equivalent of a BIOS timer wakeup. Removing the power probably loses this information (and as a consumer product, this might be considered desirable from the point-of-view of performing a simple reset).

When the power is restored, the HDR doesn't boot up automatically - it goes straight to standby.

To fix this problem, I think the hardware behaviour would need to be changed so that restoring power caused the machine to boot up. Perhaps this is possible by modifying the bootloader, or maybe it's hard and that's why Humax haven't done so ?
...but, isn't it the case that if the power goes out when the HDR is 'on' (ie, not in standby) then when the power is restored it automatically powers back on...? If this is the case then it must be storing it's state somewhere and using this to determine the mode when the power is restored. Couldn't this be set to ALWAYS boot up following a power failure (this would be preferable to failing all timers!) rather than coming back on in standby?
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:36
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...but, isn't it the case that if the power goes out when the HDR is 'on' (ie, not in standby) then when the power is restored it automatically powers back on...? If this is the case then it must be storing it's state somewhere and using this to determine the mode when the power is restored. Couldn't this be set to ALWAYS boot up following a power failure (this would be preferable to failing all timers!) rather than coming back on in standby?
Yes it's correct a power failiure while the box is on, recording or in recording sby is not a problem when power is restored.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:12
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Yes it's correct a power failiure while the box is on, recording or in recording sby is not a problem when power is restored.
What do you mean by 'recording standby'? Is that the state whereby 'Power Saving in Standby' = OFF and the HDR has been put into standby (with the clock showing)?

If so, I've just tried a power failure in that state and upon resumption of power, the clock showed 00:00 and then began incrementing minutes from there. The next scheduled timer failed to work.

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Old 08-02-2010, 12:22
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What do you mean by 'recording standby'? Is that the state whereby 'Power Saving in Standby' = OFF and the HDR has been put into standby (with the clock showing)?

If so, I've just tried a power failure in that state and upon resumption of power, the clock showed 00:00 and then began incrementing minutes from there. The next scheduled timer failed to work.

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Recording sby is the 15 min period before a recording is due to start when the hdr wakes up to check the epg and wait for the programme running status change to trigger the recording start, it's efectively on but has no video or audio output. The problem is when the box is in full sby and the only difference in the power saving modes is that with power saving in sby off a much shorter power cut will cause the problem (The greater power requirement drains the stored energy much quicker)
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:26
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Recording sby is the 15 min period before a recording is due to start when the hdr wakes up to check the epg and wait for the programme running status change to trigger the recording start, it's efectively on but has no video or audio output. The problem is when the box is in full sby and the only difference in the power saving modes is that with power saving in sby off a much shorter power cut will cause the problem (The greater power requirement drains the stored energy much quicker)
So apart from leaving the HDR fully powered up all the time, there is no protection from a power cut?

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Old 08-02-2010, 12:32
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Recording standby doesn't recover from a power interupt. Unless they've fixed this in the last update.

Edit: 'Recording standby' is the worst condition the box can be set in, as the internal capacitance isn't capable of protecting against even the shortest of interupts.
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