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What Sort Of Apology Was That
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samiskim
05-02-2010
I was not impressed when Jason Gardiner appeared on Fridays's edition of Dancing on Ice. His bullying behaviour and disgusting remarks were completely glossed over and it appears everything is hunky dory in Dancing on Ice Land.

ITV are just being ostriches and putting their head in the sand and it appears they have condoned his appalling behaviour and have papered over the cracks in an attempt at damage limitation. The wretched man could have least shown a bit of remorse or contrition but he was as full of himself as ever and flashing his tombstone teeth at the camera.

I was talking to a friend yesterday who was a great fan of his. Not any more - she is absolutely revolted by his behaviour. Another ex-fan thinks he is totally bizarre and should have been hauled over the coals, and another thinks he should have been sacked immediately.

I will watch on Sunday but will record it and fast forward during his spiel. The man talks a load of tosh any way.
number six
05-02-2010
Can you imagine what the Audience will be like when he is talking, they are bad enough at the best of times!
caz789
05-02-2010
He looked very subdued, but also kind of angry. Probably had a good telling off. But yeah, no real remorse. I imagine he's told to be controversial, but still overstepped the line.

His remarks about Sharon whilst unacceptable, won't have been as damaging as those about Danny though, who he unfairly (imo) branded "arrogant" in an article in the papers. Likely got her extra votes.

Once again, I feel sorry for the costume department who do a great job.
Leicester_Hunk
06-02-2010
Got the following response regarding my complaint about Jason:

Thank you for your recent email regarding Dancing on Ice.

Each week, Jason gives feedback to the celebrity contestants. He is very forthright in his views, and like all our judges he offers a unique perspective when critiquing each performance, and where appropriate contestants are given an opportunity to respond directly to the judges’ comments.

However, Jason accepts that some of his comments about Sharron’s performance on Sunday may have caused offence to her and to viewers, for which he has apologised. Likewise ITV is sorry if you were offended by these comments.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV as we always value viewers feedback.

Regards, ITV VIEWER SERIVCES - GDL
Veri
06-02-2010
He should be sacked. He doesn't bring anything to the show worth having.
caz789
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Got the following response regarding my complaint about Jason:

Thank you for your recent email regarding Dancing on Ice.

Each week, Jason gives feedback to the celebrity contestants. He is very forthright in his views, and like all our judges he offers a unique perspective when critiquing each performance, and where appropriate contestants are given an opportunity to respond directly to the judges’ comments.

However, Jason accepts that some of his comments about Sharron’s performance on Sunday may have caused offence to her and to viewers, for which he has apologised. Likewise ITV is sorry if you were offended by these comments.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV as we always value viewers feedback.

Regards, ITV VIEWER SERIVCES - GDL
”


"he offers a unique perspective when critiquing each performance"

This is true



"Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV as we always value viewers feedback"

This is not.

(only kidding ITV)
Syqo
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by number six:
“Can you imagine what the Audience will be like when he is talking, they are bad enough at the best of times!”

Well it would be good if they drown him out. That would really piss him off as he obviously values his own opinions so much.


Originally Posted by caz789:
“Probably had a good telling off. But yeah, no real remorse. I imagine he's told to be controversial, but still overstepped the line.”

Oh I hope he got told off. It seems to me that the producers decided that the judges should be more controversial. Last week Nicky made a comment about Jeremy having a hand grenade up his arse. That comment was funny though. This year has really detracted from the skating, it looks like they're going down the Britain's Got Talent/X Factor route.


Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Got the following response regarding my complaint about Jason”

Thanks for sharing. I'm sure they've sent that very email to thousands. It's probably an auto-reply once it detects the words Jason and Sharron in an incoming message.



Oh and I agree with the OP. He could barely keep the smirk off his face whilst apologising. And I used to think he was hilarious. He's a complete prat.
caz789
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by Syqo:
“ Oh I hope he got told off. It seems to me that the producers decided that the judges should be more controversial. Last week Nicky made a comment about Jeremy having a hand grenade up his arse. That comment was funny though. This year has really detracted from the skating, it looks like they're going down the Britain's Got Talent/X Factor route.”


Bingo, and I'm so disappointed, I love this show.
See how it goes I guess.

They have to be careful about one thing though, and that is that their contestants are celebrities.
They might not stand for it, or be so keen to sign up next year. Might get more viewers, but....
samiskim
06-02-2010
ITV have sent the same letter to me and other posters. I'll give them a "unique critique" - it is very unique from the perspective the man doesn't know what he is talking about. He is so full of himself - I had vaguely heard of him before he appeared in DOI as he appeared in "Cats" many years ago. A real Z lister! It is a pity he got so into character that he didn't leave the claws and vicious behaviour behind when he hung up his tail and ears and whiskers for the last time.

Why is it that people think it is acceptable to be so rude and then have the audacity to think they are being entertaining.

DOI is a very loud show, hyped up and with a rent-a-mob audience. On Sunday I hope he is booed so loudly he won't be able to hear himself think. He certainly deserves it after such shameful behaviour. He needs to apologise apologise to Sharron on Sunday - after all he publicly insulted her in front of millions. Not only did he insult her he insulted Danny and Tania to name but a few.

I think he should wear ice-skates and do a little routine on the ice tomorrow so we can all see how good he really is and whether he is fit to judge anyone. Unique critique indeed - the man can't even skate.
oathy
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by Veri:
“He should be sacked. He doesn't bring anything to the show worth having.”

totally.
any constructive comments left him years ago.
Veri
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Got the following response regarding my complaint about Jason:
...”

Originally Posted by Syqo:
“...
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure they've sent that very email to thousands. It's probably an auto-reply once it detects the words Jason and Sharron in an incoming message.
...”

Originally Posted by samiskim:
“ITV have sent the same letter to me and other posters.
...”

People who've received the letter should write back, pointing out that there's no "may have been" about being offended, that you definitely were, that "unique" is no defence, and that the problem is not only what he said about Sharron: it's also that he is hardly ever constructive, instead seems to be trying to be as offensive as he can get away with, and that he does not offer a valuable perspective on the performances since most of the time he just picks on relatively unimportant details. (Or make whatever alternative points come to mind.)

It's not a new problem; it's just that his comments on Sharron are where a lot of people have finally had enough.

Surely they can find someone who can make entertaining comments in a more constructive and perceptive way. Let Jason stick to the fashion segment on This Morning. He seems much better suited to that and much happier there.
Syqo
06-02-2010
I see he's also a big fan of Robert Pattinson
hopeandfaith06
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“I was not impressed when Jason Gardiner appeared on Fridays's edition of Dancing on Ice. His bullying behaviour and disgusting remarks were completely glossed over and it appears everything is hunky dory in Dancing on Ice Land.

ITV are just being ostriches and putting their head in the sand and it appears they have condoned his appalling behaviour and have papered over the cracks in an attempt at damage limitation. The wretched man could have least shown a bit of remorse or contrition but he was as full of himself as ever and flashing his tombstone teeth at the camera.

I was talking to a friend yesterday who was a great fan of his. Not any more - she is absolutely revolted by his behaviour. Another ex-fan thinks he is totally bizarre and should have been hauled over the coals, and another thinks he should have been sacked immediately.

I will watch on Sunday but will record it and fast forward during his spiel. The man talks a load of tosh any way.”

Sorry to be a bit sad here, but Ostriches don't put their heads in the sand

About Jason, he did apologize on This Morning earlier in the week, but it was still a bit pathetic and you could tell he was only saying it because he was told to.

I do think ITV need to get a serious back bone and get a new judge in his place. I know they want a baddy, but he is getting too personal and is not funny any more. Surely they could find a new 'bad' judge to replace him, and could probably find someone cheaper as well, i'm sure Jason demands quite a high pay packet.
But I can't see ITV getting rid of him anytime soon, they gave him a job on This Morning as fashion guy. No idea why, have they seen what he wears himself
SheShe
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“ITV have sent the same letter to me and other posters. I'll give them a "unique critique" - it is very unique from the perspective the man doesn't know what he is talking about. He is so full of himself - I had vaguely heard of him before he appeared in DOI as he appeared in "Cats" many years ago. A real Z lister! It is a pity he got so into character that he didn't leave the claws and vicious behaviour behind when he hung up his tail and ears and whiskers for the last time.

Why is it that people think it is acceptable to be so rude and then have the audacity to think they are being entertaining.

DOI is a very loud show, hyped up and with a rent-a-mob audience. On Sunday I hope he is booed so loudly he won't be able to hear himself think. He certainly deserves it after such shameful behaviour. He needs to apologise apologise to Sharron on Sunday - after all he publicly insulted her in front of millions. Not only did he insult her he insulted Danny and Tania to name but a few.

I think he should wear ice-skates and do a little routine on the ice tomorrow so we can all see how good he really is and whether he is fit to judge anyone. Unique critique indeed - the man can't even skate.”

Have to agree! It's sad because I'm a huge fan of Jayne and Chris and hate to see 'their' show going down the pan. But the screaming from the audience drives me mad; the ad breaks every five minutes are infuriating; Philip's shouting is annoying and Jason - well! He ceased to be funny a long time ago.

I shall record it tomorrow and fast forward through quite a lot.

I still love the skating and the training footage but there's too much irritating stuff as well.
dancingdemelza
06-02-2010
I complained to ITV:

"Obviously ITV condones bullying as well as the use of offensive metaphores. That's the only reason for keeping Jason Gardiner on 'Dancing on Ice'. In any other job, he would have been sacked immediately.

He does not offer criticism - he is a just bully to all the celebs, and, in particular, to anyone who has a genuine ability and has achieved something more worthwhile than he ever has - Kelly Holmes and Sharon Davies being just two. He will never achieve a gold medal for representing this country (or even his own Australia) against the rest of the world - he isn't good enough at anything to be the best in the world at anything.

He had been becoming a more and more an offensive cariacture of himself, and, after last weekend's disgusting performance from him and his totally inadequate apology (you don't apologise with a smug smile on your face) for something which he thinks is now gone and forgotten, you are losing yet another viewer. While that odious little man is on the show, I will be watching another channel and will not be watching recordings or replays."


I got the following curt reply:

"ITV does not condone bullying. But we do not consider Jason's remark on Sunday to have constituted bullying - it was a comment about Sharron's performance that caused offence to her and to some viewers, and for which he has since made a public apology.

Should you wish to take the matter further, you can contact OFCOM ‬‪(Office of Communications). Their contact details can be found on their website www.ofcom.org.uk"
Veri
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“...”

Excellent letter, btw.
Quote:
“I got the following curt reply:

[b]"ITV does not condone bullying. But we do not consider Jason's remark on Sunday to have constituted bullying - it was a comment about Sharron's performance that caused offence to her and to some viewers, and for which he has since made a public apology.
...”

Of course, you hadn't been talking only about his comments on Sharron. They do seem to have a remarkable ability at ITV to respond as if someone had made a different (and worse) point than they did.
winenroses
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Got the following response regarding my complaint about Jason:

Thank you for your recent email regarding Dancing on Ice.

Each week, Jason gives feedback to the celebrity contestants. He is very forthright in his views, and like all our judges he offers a unique perspective when critiquing each performance, and where appropriate contestants are given an opportunity to respond directly to the judges’ comments.
However, Jason accepts that some of his comments about Sharron’s performance on Sunday may have caused offence to her and to viewers, for which he has apologised. Likewise ITV is sorry if you were offended by these comments.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us here at ITV as we always value viewers feedback.

Regards, ITV VIEWER SERIVCES - GDL
”

It should be pointed out to ITV that when someone, such as Kieron recently, does 'respond directly to the judges' comments' as requested, Jason becomes even more vitriolic.

I have noticed that in the past he has remarked along the lines of "You said... I will come back" (on This Morning for example)so presumably he thinks it's fine to act like a child who doesn't know when to stop. Tellingly, children are often obsessed with poo.

This kind of behaviour, harassment, and it is harassment, is said to be the result of personal problems on behalf of the perpetrators.

Ofcom have received complaints about him before; the contestants have complained about him before. This has been going on for about three years and still ITV do nothing. They think he is good for ratings, but I really don't believe this to be the case. The type of people who watch this show do not, on the whole, watch it for Jason. On the contrary, my dear ITV. It's a shame it has come to this, and Gardiner must be expecting a well-undeserved payrise.
SliverOfDiamond
06-02-2010
I'm surprised that the advertisers want to be associated with him, or indeed the type of programme DOI is fast becoming.
blueabu
06-02-2010
For goodness sake, how many times do you want him to apologise? He's done it several times now, and yet people keep banging on about it. If Sharon can live with it and carry on with the show then everyone else certainly should.

Just get over it and move on.
Veri
06-02-2010
Originally Posted by blueabu:
“For goodness sake, how many times do you want him to apologise? He's done it several times now, and yet people keep banging on about it. If Sharon can live with it and carry on with the show then everyone else certainly should.

Just get over it and move on.”

I don't want him to apologise; I want him replaced.

It's not only about his comments on Sharron; that was just the last straw.
Eviesmum
07-02-2010
ITV don't seem to understand that what he said was NOT a critique of her performance. He is way to personal and appears to have chips on his shoulders against some people.

I've disliked him from day one, he's nasty and not constructive, how is anyone supposed to take anything constructive from him and why Kieron wants good marks from him is anyone's guess.

I also will not be watching live I'll record it and ff through all the judges comments now and just watch the skating.

Sadly this show is becoming a joke
memmh
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by Syqo:
“It seems to me that the producers decided that the judges should be more controversial. Last week Nicky made a comment about Jeremy having a hand grenade up his arse.”

No, he didn't. Nicky was trying to advise Jeremy on how to improve his posture while skating and he told Jeremy to imagine he was holding a hand grenade in between his buttocks. There's a backstage vid on Phillip Schofield's website, where Nicky explains properly what he meant and you can also hear Jayne helping explain, so she obviously agrees with what Nicky was saying although she doesn't exactly use quite the same analogy that Nicky did.

http://www.officialphillipschofield....-gear-forward/
Syqo
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by memmh:
“No, he didn't. Nicky was trying to advise Jeremy on how to improve his posture while skating and he told Jeremy to imagine he was holding a hand grenade in between his buttocks. There's a backstage vid on Phillip Schofield's website, where Nicky explains properly what he meant and you can also hear Jayne helping explain, so she obviously agrees with what Nicky was saying although she doesn't exactly use quite the same analogy that Nicky did.

http://www.officialphillipschofield....-gear-forward/”

Ah yes, he explains it in graphic detail. That video was hilarious.
Veri
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by Eviesmum:
“ITV don't seem to understand that what he said was NOT a critique of her performance. He is way to personal and appears to have chips on his shoulders against some people.

I've disliked him from day one, he's nasty and not constructive, how is anyone supposed to take anything constructive from him and why Kieron wants good marks from him is anyone's guess.

I also will not be watching live I'll record it and ff through all the judges comments now and just watch the skating.

Sadly this show is becoming a joke ”

Yes, it is, unfortunately.

I usually have to watch a recording anyway, and I find myself FF-ing through a lot of it.
winenroses
07-02-2010
Originally Posted by blueabu:
“For goodness sake, how many times do you want him to apologise? He's done it several times now, and yet people keep banging on about it. If Sharon can live with it and carry on with the show then everyone else certainly should.

Just get over it and move on.”

I'm sorry, but you are completely missing the point here, blueabu.

I don't want him to have to apologise. Spot the difference.

It's not just Sharron, it's culminated over Sharrongate. I don't want to see the man apologising again, I want him off the show.

Oh, if you've not looked at the DOI Limerick thread, you might enjoy it folks.

The fact that even ITV apologised illustrates that his judging performance, which has been highlighted by his latest remarks, whether to Sharron or Kieron, is not, on the whole, wanted or desired by the watchers, lacking as it is in basic decency and integrity.

ITV may not see it that way and be loving the publicity but if so that is reprehensible behaviour on their part.
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