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Jealous Kate Attacks Jade.
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Edna
16-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Jade has now made over £2,000,000 since BB3. She has done this by working hard and keeping the public happy with her warm, cheerful and witty personality.”

Hmm - can you make two mil from a couple of crappy workout videos and nightclub appearances?

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“And without having to do soft porn photo shoots for Loaded.”

No market for it. At the very least she gave a bloke a hand job on national television before treating us all to the gruesome sight of her kebab.

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“In addition, Jade continues to be involved in various fund raising activities for cancer charities.”

Always good for tax breaks.


Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“She is in a loving relationship with a decent (and gorgeous) man who is not a convicted thug.”

No he's just the sort of bloke who jets off on holiday with his mates and gets pictured ogling topless women a few weeks after his kid's born.

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Jade is raising a child with a second one on the way. She has become a keep fit expert and is studying for a professional qualification.”

Getting yourself duffed's no big achievement. She was probably trying to get a council house. As for being a keep fit expert, surely you don't have to an expert to prance around in front of a camera?

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Most recently, Jade has also been offered a large sum of money to appear in yet another Reality TV show based upon her future wedding preparations. This project is on hold until at least the birth of her second child & Jeff proposing.”

So desperate to cling on to fame she's prepared to sell her own wedding.....

Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Jade's A Real Winner!”

No, she's an arrogant, annoying, bullying slabber.
Mesostim
16-04-2004
Originally Posted by metafis:
“Jade was the real winner of BB3. that is obvious ”

*Splutter* *Splutter* *Cough Choke Cough*...Your honor...objection!!!
EddyBee
16-04-2004
Hi Edna.

- Jade has done a lot more than just two hugely successful workout videos. Other TV shows, endless magazine features, newspaper columnist, retainer for new show and so on. So yes, I believe that the figure is fair.

- Jade is a very attractive woman who could have followed Kate's example and done some semi-soft porn work had she wished to do so or been desperate for the money. In fact Jade had already done a semi-soft porn photo shoot when younger. In any case, even if Jade were not attractive, the makers of these movies are not that choosy about the looks of 'actors & actresses' in their movies and photo shoots. They even cast Nichola Holt from BB1 in one. So Jade could have had that sort of work had she wanted to.

- Raising funds for charity is always a worthy activity whatever the motive. At least Jade gives up her time & lends her name to worthwhile causes.

- The press mis-reported Jeff & 'that' holiday. They even got the timing of the holiday wrong. Most straight men look at attractive women all the time, so why should Jeff be singled out for doing something that is quite normal. Despite the best efforts of the tabloids, no proof has ever been found that Jeff has ever been unfaithful. In fact IMO the evidence points the other way.

- Why would Jade get pregnant in order to get a council house? It was quite clear that she was earning far too much too qualify? Council officials also follow the news, so there is no way that Jade could have fooled them. At the time, if I recall correctly, she was charging £3000 a night for nightclub appearances.

- Jade's is an absolute professional in those fitness videos. Have you seen them? The first one was so good and so profitable that she was invited to do the second.

- As for the PJ incident. Well she fell for him. I accept that they should have waited. But in the scheme of things it was far less unpleasant than watching Kate deliberately flashing her bits on RI:SE each morning or indeed watching Kate shove her head down the toilet after drinking so much with Jonny.

- I accept that some people find Jade annoying That's life. But, I have never known her to be arrogant. Jade has been the victim of bullying at the hands of people like Craig,Kate, Lee & Sophie. I have never known her to bully anyone.
Last edited by EddyBee : 16-04-2004 at 19:58
Ovalteenie
16-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Jade has been the victim of bullying at the hands of people like Craig,Kate, Lee & Sophie. I have never known her to bully anyone.”

Jade the victim of bullying at the hands of... Sophie?
thenetworkbabe
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Hi Edna.

- Jade has done a lot more than just two hugely successful workout videos. Other TV shows, endless magazine features, newspaper columnist, retainer for new show and so on. So yes, I believe that the figure is fair.

- Jade is a very attractive woman who could have followed Kate's example and done some semi-soft porn work had she wished to do so or been desperate for the money. In fact Jade had already done a semi-soft porn photo shoot when younger. In any case, even if Jade were not attractive, the makers of these movies are not that choosy about the looks of 'actors & actresses' in their movies and photo shoots. They even cast Nichola Holt from BB1 in one. So Jade could have had that sort of work had she wanted to.

- Raising funds for charity is always a worthy activity whatever the motive. At least Jade gives up her time & lends her name to worthwhile causes.

- The press mis-reported Jeff & 'that' holiday. They even got the timing of the holiday wrong. Most straight men look at attractive women all the time, so why should Jeff be singled out for doing something that is quite normal. Despite the best efforts of the tabloids, no proof has ever been found that Jeff has ever been unfaithful. In fact IMO the evidence points the other way.

- Why would Jade get pregnant in order to get a council house? It was quite clear that she was earning far too much too qualify? Council officials also follow the news, so there is no way that Jade could have fooled them. At the time, if I recall correctly, she was charging £3000 a night for nightclub appearances.

- Jade's is an absolute professional in those fitness videos. Have you seen them? The first one was so good and so profitable that she was invited to do the second.

- As for the PJ incident. Well she fell for him. I accept that they should have waited. But in the scheme of things it was far less unpleasant than watching Kate deliberately flashing her bits on RI:SE each morning or indeed watching Kate shove her head down the toilet after drinking so much with Jonny.

- I accept that some people find Jade annoying That's life. But, I have never known her to be arrogant. Jade has been the victim of bullying at the hands of people like Craig,Kate, Lee & Sophie. I have never known her to bully anyone.”

I think you must have some other Jade in mind or you have been swapped for your twin in another universe.

Jade has had a lot of work but unless OK are dishing out £200k still per holiday shoot she is nowhere near two million.

Kate's soft porn seems to consist of two appearances in magazines which have shown Kylie, sara Cox, Rachel Stevens, the Spice Girls and the rest of S club and practically every soap star, singer and actress under 40 in the same type of pose. To a fundamentalist moslem or christian or the Amish they might be pornographic but the rest of us stopped covering up table legs 100 years ago. Jade hasn't done this sort of work because the editors want to sell copies not put people off. Some things are best left covered.

The idea of sweet little Jade being bullied is the most bizarre comment of all. We had newspapers reports of Jade's activity at school whilst the show was on.. These were rapidly confirmed when she started bitching about everyone in the house, telling everyone she was totally honest and then slagging them off to the first person she thought would like that. In this universe, Jade was virulently aggressive to Sophie and spent most of one night raging about her. Even E4 cut away when she started a tirade about Lee and saying seeing him with Sophie made her Jade ill. - Endemol seemed to particularly try and avoid showing the adverb which she put infront of the adjectives she was using about him. True Adele used her, but Jade was a willing accomplice and got worse as she got more and more jealous of the other women in the house who the men fancied and not her. The point about Jade was that everyone who had much contact with her - Kate, Sophie. PJ, Jonny, Alex and Adele came to exactly the same conclusion . The wonder is that Kate (who she told stories about and threatened) Sophie (who she bullied relentlessly) and Jonny (who grew to dislike her intensely) didn't join Alex, Adele and PJ in confronting her more. Hiding from her was a far nicer solution than confronting her and sending her to Coventry which would have been her fate in any other outside setting.
Vilt UK
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“.
I have never known her to bully anyone.”


Well thanks for that comment.
At least everyone who reads this thread now knows yours statements and opinions are not reliable or credible.
The one thing we do know about Jade that is not distorted by her people is that she is a bully.

The 2 Million? Who cares-you seem the only one who values money in that way.
You raised the figure -if you want to support it fine-I will forward any details you might be able to supply to the Taxman with due acknowledgement. (Can you manage it? I am sure Jade will want to thank you in person)


I think most people are bored with Jade because she never really does anything-you seem in a minority of one-perhaps you like it that way?

If you read the thread on the nightclub fight you will know –as you already do-that Jade was the premeditated aggressor.

If you watched Ri:se –which you did not-you would know that your allegation is false.

Also NWB has neatly mentioned your apparent bias against your fellow females generally.

(Looks like the Moderators are also getting fed up with you)
Last edited by Vilt UK : 17-04-2004 at 11:14
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“ ......Kate's soft porn seems to consist of two appearances in magazines which have shown Kylie, sara Cox, Rachel Stevens, the Spice Girls and the rest of S club and practically every soap star, singer and actress under 40 in the same type of pose. To a fundamentalist moslem or christian or the Amish they might be pornographic but the rest of us stopped covering up table legs 100 years ago. Jade hasn't done this sort of work because the editors want to sell copies not put people off. Some things are best left covered.”

I have no objection to nudity or to tasteful erotica, professionally produced. But I'm afraid the photos of Kate that you are referring to are neither of these things. They are just trashy semi-soft-porn and I'm surprised to see you defending them.

Here is a quote from DS member dizzyblonde on this topic ...

'' I've no objection at all to soft porn - takes all sorts - but attempting to look like a young schoolgirl is pandering to a much darker impulse in some men. It's not just degrading to women, it's threatening to real young schoolgirls who might be looked upon as sex objects. Not far fetched - just consider the news over the last year. Without mentioning any specifics, there have been a number of cases of underage girls being seduced by older men, or in a few sad cases, much worse. What also saddens me is the number of posters on this forum who appear to like that sort of thing!'' Taken from this thread.
bystander
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“IHere is a quote from DS member dizzyblonde on this topic ...

'' I've no objection at all to soft porn - takes all sorts - but attempting to look like a young schoolgirl is pandering to a much darker impulse in some men. It's not just degrading to women, it's threatening to real young schoolgirls who might be looked upon as sex objects. Not far fetched - just consider the news over the last year. Without mentioning any specifics, there have been a number of cases of underage girls being seduced by older men, or in a few sad cases, much worse. What also saddens me is the number of posters on this forum who appear to like that sort of thing!'' Taken from this thread.”

So how long has Dizzyblonde been qualified as an expert witness on soft porn? Long enough to use her as a reference against another FM's post?
moogester
17-04-2004
EddyBee. I have always found you a credible poster and have read your posts with interest, although not agreeing with all of them, I have enjoyed reading your usually balanced opinions, which is the attraction of the majority of posts on DS. But unless you are being ironic, I would have to say on this thread you have totally lost the plot. If you are a Jade fan, good luck to you for fighting her corner, but it is only plausible when the evidence you are putting forward about her is true, and I'm afraid as others have pointed out, lots of what you have stated is not. I'm afraid I will not be treating your future posts with any crediblity.
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by bystander:
“

So how long has Dizzyblonde been qualified as an expert witness on soft porn? Long enough to use her as a reference against another FM's post? ”

The points she makes are pertinent ones to this debate. As I liked them, I quoted them.
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
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The idea of sweet little Jade being bullied is the most bizarre comment of all. We had newspapers reports of Jade's activity at school whilst the show was on.. These were rapidly confirmed when she started bitching about everyone in the house, telling everyone she was totally honest and then slagging them off to the first person she thought would like that. In this universe, Jade was virulently aggressive to Sophie and spent most of one night raging about her. Even E4 cut away when she started a tirade about Lee and saying seeing him with Sophie made her Jade ill. - Endemol seemed to particularly try and avoid showing the adverb which she put infront of the adjectives she was using about him.”

It was ALLEGED that Jade was a bully at school. More than that we do not know & Jade, as far as I know, has not discussed these allegations.

All forms of bullying must be condemned and effectively dealt with, particularly when it involves children of school age. Sadly, a lot of bullying takes place in our schools. But, even if Jade were guilty of a few bullying incidents at school does not mean that she has continued to be a bully.

I believe that many of the examples quoted as showing Jade to be a bully are really examples of Jade standing up for herself.

You give several examples of Jade being a bitch in the BB3 House. But that is not bullying that is bitching, something very different and something that most of the BB3 lot were guilty of ..... Jonny, Kate, Lee, Adele, Sophie, Tim, Sandy, Alison all did their fair share of bitching. But they are all allowed off the hook. In their cases their bitching is often described as just 'being honest' . They get away with it for a variety of reasons not relevant here. Jade does not because she has been turned into this hate figure by folk that dislike her, what she represents and what she has achieved.

The nastiest bitching in BB3 was Kate & Jonny saying in the garden that they hoped that Jade would have pork scratchings thrown at her when she left the BB3 House. Nothing that Jade said in that House compares with that.

This incident was closely followed by the spiteful manner in which Lee set out to hurt Adele after she had rejected him. Lee & Sophie's deliberate taunting of Adele was amongst the nastiest stuff ever seen on any BB. Jade stuck up for her mate Adele after seeing how much she was hurting. That is a sign of a good friend, not of a bully and not of a bitch.
Last edited by EddyBee : 17-04-2004 at 14:18
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by moogester:
“EddyBee. I have always found you a credible poster and have read your posts with interest, although not agreeing with all of them, I have enjoyed reading your usually balanced opinions, which is the attraction of the majority of posts on DS. But unless you are being ironic, I would have to say on this thread you have totally lost the plot. If you are a Jade fan, good luck to you for fighting her corner, but it is only plausible when the evidence you are putting forward about her is true, and I'm afraid as others have pointed out, lots of what you have stated is not. I'm afraid I will not be treating your future posts with any crediblity.”

Hello moogester. I believe that the case I have put forward is a fair one. I refuse to jump onto the anti-Jade bandwagon where everything she does is misinterpreted and turned upside down. In putting my case forward I believe that the facts are on my side & not on the side of Jade's critics. You may disagree with me but you do not have a monopoly of 'the facts'. In fact, all you have is your interpretation.

I respect those FMs that simply do not like Jade. But I have no time for those that appear to dislike Jade because they envy her success & who she is & where she has come from. There is far too much of that going on.

Whether or not you choose to treat my posts with credibility is your business and not mine. I come here to discuss my favourite TV show and not to look for credibility. I really do not care about that.
bystander
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“............... I refuse to jump onto the anti-Jade bandwagon where everything she does is misinterpreted and turned upside down..........”

Why not? You don't hold back when more or less doing the same thing when criticising whatever Kate's wearing, how she's got her hair and bizarrely even the apparent large size of her feet, whereas Jade, after Back To Reality, has been confirmed as the most obnoxious reality tv contestant ever.
Mesostim
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Hello moogester. I believe that the case I have put forward is a fair one. I refuse to jump onto the anti-Jade bandwagon where everything she does is misinterpreted and turned upside down. In putting my case forward I believe that the facts are on my side & not on the side of Jade's critics. You may disagree with me but you do not have a monopoly of 'the facts'. In fact, all you have is your interpretation.
”

All the facts are on my side when it comes Miss Goody.....
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by bystander:
“Why not? You don't hold back when more or less doing the same thing when criticising whatever Kate's wearing, how she's got her hair and bizarrely even the apparent large size of her feet, whereas Jade, after Back To Reality, has been confirmed as the most obnoxious reality tv contestant ever.”

Confirmed by whom???? Not by me !!!!

Jade came fourth in the 'Back To Reality' TV show. There were 6 others more unpopular than her so how can she be described 'as the most obnoxious' ?

As for your remarks about my views of Kate .... I see the point you are making but I do not accept it.
bystander
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Confirmed by whom???? Not by me !!!!.........”

By popular opinion on the forum.

Throughout the series she was always miles in front on the poll of who you wanted out next and you know very well Eddy, we are always a lot smarter on here than the voting public.

That's good enough confirmation for me but not not only that, the fact is, she is obnoxious isn't she? Rik Waller will back me up on that.
Mesostim
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Confirmed by whom???? Not by me !!!!

Jade came fourth in the 'Back To Reality' TV show. There were 6 others more unpopular than her so how can she be described 'as the most obnoxious' ?
”

She came 4th despite the most intense bias in her favour and riding in on a wave of public sycophancy that had delcared her the most wonderful perfect person in the county (courtesy of HEAT, HELLO, OK..etc etc etc).......She shot herself in the foot..like a political party riding well ahead in the polls to find themselves out in the cold, no longer trusted.......
bystander
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by Mesostim:
“.......She shot herself in the foot..like a political party riding well ahead in the polls to find themselves out in the cold, no longer trusted.......”

Roll on the next election and a cut in the burden of heavy taxes for us poor people.
Mesostim
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by bystander:
“Roll on the next election and a cut in the burden of heavy taxes for us poor people. ”

Until heavy inflation and stealth taxes takes it all back again....Do I smell economic recession in the air....one of the four horsemen of a Tory government swept to power through whinging about immigration....ooops....back on topic....Jade is a baddun'
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by bystander:
“By popular opinion on the forum.

Throughout the series she was always miles in front on the poll of who you wanted out next and you know very well Eddy, we are always a lot smarter on here than the voting public.

That's good enough confirmation for me but not not only that, the fact is, she is obnoxious isn't she? Rik Waller will back me up on that. ”

Are you suggesting that we all have to be in agreement at DS? Wouldn't that make the place a little dull?

What happened between Jade and Rik was unpleasant. Jade lost her temper just as many of us do all the time. Jade reacted in a normal way upon discovering that Rik had making things up about her. However, Jade did not bully Rik. She merely put him in his place following great provocation from him.
Mesostim
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“
What happened between Jade and Rik was unpleasant. Jade lost her temper just as many of us do all the time. Jade reacted in a normal way upon discovering that Rik had making things up about her. However, Jade did not bully Rik. She merely put him in his place following great provocation from him.”

Going to have to stop you there EddyB.......Rik wasn't making things up at all, he was quite correct in his assessment of the situation which was based on the whole weeks events (during which Jade had bullied him)....and she reacted in a normal way for Jade..not a normal person....Jade is a spiteful nasty little bully......There certainly was no "great provocation" from Rik..unless you're taking the line that Jade bullying him to tears was him provoking her as a bully...
moogester
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by EddyBee:
“Hello moogester. I come here to discuss my favourite TV show and not to look for credibility. I really do not care about that.”


Well done, EddyBee!!!! With that one retort you have proved you are not to be taken seriously. I congratulate you on provoking a lively discussion that has kept me amused for a few hours!!!
EddyBee
17-04-2004
Originally Posted by moogester:
“Well done, EddyBee!!!! With that one retort you have proved you are not to be taken seriously. I congratulate you on provoking a lively discussion that has kept me amused for a few hours!!! ”

That old chestnut again...... you would if you could but you can't !!! Or in other words you disagree with the message but, having no effective counter argument, you attack the messenger instead.

PS - A few hours???
Last edited by EddyBee : 17-04-2004 at 18:57
bilijojimbob
18-04-2004
Ah Jade... look what you've done to this thread... I still like you tho'
emptybelly
18-04-2004
The are both as bad as each other most of the time. Perhaps Maureen can throw a bucket of water over both of them to make them see sense, just as she did to Ricshamardo in BTR! hehehe
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