at least jason & karen judged hayley by her performance & not by old performances & cause she is the pet!!!!

emma & nicky both looked at each other after jasons speech ... they knew they had OVER marked!!!!!m eeejjjiiitttssss

It was good. I don't see it was LEAGUES ahead of anyone else's though...

I agree that she was better last week, but she was still better than Daniella this week so they'd left themselves nowhere to go with the marks. Both girls should've had less this week.

Oops, wrong thread...

Yeah, maybe.

Danny undermarked again. Am I his only fan on here. What a shame.

I feel so sorry for Danny - 17 again?!?! I think they're doing it on purpose, Nicky's score of 2.5 was so unfair and his justification made no sense. He soon turned nasty when he started getting boos!

Nastier than Jason has ever got and I am not a Jason fan. I think what the judges are doing to Danny amounts to bullying.

I do.
It wasn't his best week, but to score 17.0 again is just weird. I wonder what odds a bookie would give you on that?

Mikey got 18.5 for that? He was dreadful.

Mikey overmarked
Kieron undermarked

as usual

Looking at them again, I agree. Kieron was far far better than Mikey. They shouldn't have been remotely close in their marks.

Gary and Daniella were overmarked too I thought.

Gary, Danniella, Mikey were all overmarked

I've found a Danny fan. HOORAY!!!

Danny was so undermarked.

Nicky 2.5?????????????????

Danniella was undermarked in my opinion.

Sharron overmarked everyone was miles better than her tonight.

Some of his lifts are really good. Mikey does not even attempt them. I like Danny and Danniella, both seem to really embrace this experience. Sharron just seems to want to go now.

Kieron undermarked again!

Hayley was slightly overmarked, she shouldn't have been higher than Daniella

Kieron was excellent. Still a little bit awkward in some of his lift landings but he's really trying his hardest and his skating is at times has the most technical difficulty. Shame he stumbled. That mark should have been way higher then it was. I couldn't help but think that /some/ judges seemed to ignore the stumble for Hayley.

Personal opinion?

Kieron, Danny and Gary were undermarked.

Hayley, Emily, Sharron and Mikey were overmarked.

I'm probably going to be alone in thinking Hayley was undermarked. Her and Dan's routine was amazing, despite the (slight) stumble. I thought it was far and beyond even Daniella's in flair and creativity. And Daniella's was good!!

For me Hayley is a pair of Next jeans, wrapped in the packaging of D&G. What I mean by that is that no-one can deny that her presentation, flexibility and core strength are fabulous. She's one of the best deliverers of a performance that dancing on ice has had. However her feet tell me a different story. Her skating is good but not great. Yes she solo skates and yes she does what she can do very well but I don't feel she's skating at the same ability as her delivery suggests. If you compare her footwork to Suzanne Shaw, Ray Quinn, Chris Fountain etc at this stage of the competition then it's not quite as good as her presenting suggests. I feel others are attempting much more complex footwork and not being marked for it. Just my opinion though.

Yes, they can be held to account - and they know that when they take on the job. Of course they can make hyperbolic comments on the night regardless of what might be still to come if they so choose, but they can expect to be picked up on it if they do.

I thought everyone was overmarked tonight TBH, save maybe Daniella. I don't know whether it's because I've been watching the professionals during the week, but I thought it was a very poor show.

Danniella wasn't given one in her routine.

Exactly. Daniella had less content, and that's reflected in the marks.

But there have been weeks when Hayley has had less skating content than Daniella and still seems to be marked highly. Still seems like Hayley gets the benefit of the doubt when others (not just Daniella) don't.

For the record I thought Daniella's opening was fab and it's not easy for the girl to jump into the lift rather than being picked up.

Hayleys start was a lot of leg kicking while lying down - lovely leg kicking but still......

Having said that I did like Hayley's routine but don't feel it was better than Daniella's.

even though the olympic games are totally different to this ....

if that was a olympic final that stumble would of probably cost hayley a gold medal so why did her marks still reach

5.5????