Not sure of the last point. If you look at past series (and marks are not harder to get now) more people were scoring in the 20s by now. They are being put in an order but they don't have anyone getting into the 22-24 range to chase Hayley. Daniella might be able to but not with the routines they give her. The boys seem to be moving up and around slowly but no one has the speed or lifting ability or dance ability or footwork or consistency of a Chris, Ray or Kyran and Gareth and Duncan were both showing more by now.

Totally not a fan of Haley, but tonight she put in a lovely performance, she deserved to be top of the leader board, maybe 5.5 was a bit high but easily a 5.

She was fantastic tonight, and I don't think she is the judges pet as one thread referred too!

She is the bench mark for the rest of the competitors at the moment!

Hayley was SO overmarked this week, the only solo skating she did was for the required element. I hate when the females get high scores for getting thrown around by their male pros.

Danny was undermarked definitely.

She was led around the rink by her partner the whole time apart from the required element, I thought she was seriously overmarked.

It was a lovely routine but no way was it a 5.5

It was a lovely routine & she clearly deserved to be top. The 5.5were perhaps a little too much.

Not as good as Chasing Cars though. That's probably my fave DOI routine ever & loved Kyran & Mel. I even got excited when they showed a brief clip of it on DOI Friday

5.5 was from Jason? He is really looking at dance performance, acting and portrayal of feelings. I think Hayley could have hardly done better.

What a beautiful routine, so polished and everything looked effortless. Should have been 5.5 from all the judges. It says it all that Jason gave her 5.5. Those who say she was undermaked know nothing about skating IMO.

You were obviously watching the wrong show. Hayley deserved all her marks and more tonight. She is a league above everyone else in the show.

Hate to say it - but Daniel has this amazing ability to make all his partners look absolutely wonderful.

Maybe in future anyone who is being partnered by him should automatically start off with -2 to even things up.

Hayley was Brilliant
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I am reading this thread and you all make some interesting comment's with regards to Hayley.

For me I think she is the best skater in the competition, the marks were deserved, for how she skated and how she performed, and it was a very touching/moving type of performance.

Infact i am surprised she is getting a bit of criticism, I don't expect everyone to like her, I just find it surprising how some one soo good can get some of the criticism she is getting?

I suppose you can't please everyone i guess?

I actually thought Danielle was teachers pet NOT Hayley.

Hayley is superb I love watching the two together.

Daniella is good but she leaves me flat when I watch her there isnt the same coupling.

I think Hayley should have got a 6 LOL.

Totally agree with this post - very sad

Her routine was beautiful from the begining to the end - marks thoroughly deserved imo

I thought she was brilliant and deserved the marks she got.

Maybe each week we should have an automatic poll whether Hayley is overmarked or not, and wether she has done enough skating on the ice, as it seems to come up every week. I like quite a few of the couples (Danielle, Mikey, Sharron and Pavel etc), but I don't think Hayley was overmarked. She is the best skater, and it doesn't matter if she was given a 5.0 or a 5.5, she was so way ahead of everyone that 0.5 doesn't make a difference. The marking in DOI is not like in an olympic discipline, lets face it if it was for real none of them would get a 3.0. The marking is given in relationship to the standard of the competitors in this particular year, and in relationship to improvement etc. So saying that the routine is worth 5.0 but not 5.5 sounds rather picky, particularly as none of the others really deserved 5's anyway yesterday.

Of course I don't know that the marking works that way for a fact, but it would make sense.

It makes me laugh how someone says she was overmarked and all of a sudden its because they are "jealous"!! Get real. Its an opinion. I don't dislike her but she was overmarked!! It wasnt a fast routine, it was relatively easy for her to do this week and i still cant help but think that she has an advantage because she's known her partner since she was a child so of course they are going to have good chemistry.

Hayley was overmarked, i agree with phasers, she does little skating on the ice, she just relies on lifts and has unfair advantage because she has chemistry with her partner that she has known since childhood!
Mikey and Daniella undermarked, they deserved more.

Interestingly enough, some people have stated during the last few weeks that she had an advantage because all her routines were fast and fun, and that she would not be able to produce a slower one. This week, she produced a slower one, and all of a sudden, it's easier than a fast one. I think Chris and Jayne have actually stated before that slow routines can be very difficult, because the require more control and ballance.

With regards to jealousy, I don't think that people that criticise her are jealous. I hate that old chestnut anyway (mostly used against people that don't like Emily this year).

Please watch it again, she did do quite a bit of skating on her own and it looked pretty good.

Hayley does do skating on her own. She is very skilled and it helps that the judges really like her. But she was tad over marked. Danny and Kieron undermarked. Gary overmarked. Daniella again over marked she is good but did not warrant such high marks.

I too am surprised by the level of criticism against Hayley, I think maybe some fms know she is way better than their own favourites but don't want to admit it.

Don't get me wrong she was the undisputed best of the bunch last night, but she was not 5 full points better than her nearest rival.

Mikey was poorer than Daniella and Gary but I thought his mark was fair until they all performed, and he was clearly better than an 18.5 when comparing to the others. He was maybe a 19 with Daniella and Gary slightly higher than him, with Hayley on a score of 22 or 23. Her routine was the best of the night but to give her such an exhorbantly high mark was ridulous. (I'm not trying to make this a Mikey v. Hayley debate).

I liked Hayley until last week when despite falling on her bum she still topped the board with the judges giving her a stupidly high mark. I didn't believe they could get any worse with their blatant favouritism, yet they did.

This behaviour is turning me against her and now i'm an A.B.H (anybody but Hayley). Its not her fault, but it's obvious that whilst she was the best last night she is not THAT MUCH (5 marks) better than the others, especially the genuine threats to the crown - Gary, Daniella and Mikey.

If Mikey gets back to where he was he will still be lower marked than Hayley, whilst the improvements of Daniella (skating) and Gary (performing) will go unrewarded. Hayley WILL always top the board and I believe she should if she is the best on the night but not by such a margin. They will fell "what have I got to do to get the validation". I think this blatant Teacher's Pet behaiour from the judges, moreso than any overmarking Hayley may suffer, and undermarking for the others will mean she does not win, which would be a shame if she was the best throughout the run to the final, and then in it. I want the best competitor to win the thing even if I dont like them because they desreve it and at the minute her marks mean I don't think she would.

Last nighht's behaviour by the judges reminded me of the Suzanne/ Chris final which was destroyed by you knowing the marks and leader board before they were given. Last year Ray deserved to be top because he was the best but you could still enjoy what the others did, at the moment I cannot do that as I know that even if they give a perfect routineand Hayley falls yet still is top.

The ratings for this series are lower than previous series and I can see them getting lower still if the public can predict what will happen each show, I could also see the favouritism backfiring because I know other people feel like I do and therefore if it continued she could sufer backlash in the final and not get to do the Bolero as the other 2 get through.

P.S How good was Kieron? What a brilliant reply to being in the bottom 2 the previous week.

On the contrary, I thought Hayley was easily better than the likes of Daniella, Gary and Mikey - and I say this as someone who likes all four.

She was in a different league last night. I got totally lost in her routine and felt she deserved every point she got.

Each to their own and all that... everybody has their favourites and for the most part will stick by them and back them whatever, but there's one thing that's really getting my goat....

Why do people keep having a dig at Hayley for messing up and falling over last week?! IT WAS DANIEL!!! His blade caught something on the ice and stopped him dead in his tracks and being held upsidedown at the time, there was absolutely nothing Hayley could have done to prevent the fall.

I'm all for praise where it's due and criticism when they mess up, but I do wish people would get their facts straight first!