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Robin = Boring
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Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Is this the most boring man on the planet?

I find him the worst judge also. He should know more then any of them.

This week he gave Emily more then Mikey which was just silly to most and backed it up by saying it did not matter that Mikeys routine was much harder.

Also the Skating Element this week was much harder for the blokes doing the spins. All the girls were pulled around by the male professional and the blokes all had to do it on their own in time with the woman.

At the start of the show he said the women were along way in front of the blokes. Another silly statement i would say. Haley aside the blokes are a better standard.
Rachel29
08-02-2010
I think Robin is awesome. He's the voice of reason amongst a very manic and erratic panel! There's no need for him to be controversial or overly sympathetic etc (like some other judges). He's there to give his professional opinion on the skating and I'm sure the celebs really value his feedback.
The celebs know they've given a good performance when Jason scores them highly, but know they've skated well when Robin does.

He's got the most credible opinion on there, I don't think he's boring at all.
-Sid-
08-02-2010
I have a lot of respect for Robin but some of his comments and scores have taken me by surprise this series.
d.tugby
08-02-2010
No, I think he is the best judge along with Karen.
The worst in my opinion is Emma, I just get this feeling she copies scores and hasn't a clue what she is talking about.
yellowlabbie
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I have a lot of respect for Robin but some of his comments and scores have taken me by surprise this series.”

His scoring of Emma last Sunday (not yesterday) was ridiculous.
Ignazio
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by Dazzer1971:
“Is this the most boring man on the planet?

I find him the worst judge also. He should know more then any of them.

This week he gave Emily more then Mikey which was just silly to most and backed it up by saying it did not matter that Mikeys routine was much harder.

Also the Skating Element this week was much harder for the blokes doing the spins. All the girls were pulled around by the male professional and the blokes all had to do it on their own in time with the woman.

At the start of the show he said the women were along way in front of the blokes. Another silly statement i would say. Haley aside the blokes are a better standard.”

He's only an Olympic gold medallist - so what the hell does he know?

Vodka_Drinka
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“His scoring of Emma last Sunday (not yesterday) was ridiculous.”

Emma? Who's Emma?
yellowlabbie
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“Emma? Who's Emma?”

Sorry, Emily.
rebecca87
08-02-2010
Watch some of his routines before calling him boring.

Robin is the only one on the panel worth listening to.
soapgirlhere
08-02-2010
I think he's the best judge...by a long way.
EyeLikeBeer
08-02-2010
Hes boring but I do think the girls are stronger. Hayley and Danniella are the best this year. Sharron is also coming along.

Hilary is awful. Danny is dull as dishwater and Gary is just meh.
Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by EyeLikeBeer:
“Hes boring but I do think the girls are stronger. Hayley and Danniella are the best this year. Sharron is also coming along.

Hilary is awful. Danny is dull as dishwater and Gary is just meh.”

I agree Haley is the best at the moment. I see Gary has the main challenger though. He has good skating ability and is just going along steady at the moment. Sometimes its not good to be the front runner at this point.
Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by soapgirlhere:
“I think he's the best judge...by a long way.”

We all see it different. I think Jason is by far the best judge because he actualy gives advice on how to improve. Nicky sometimes gives advice also the others sort of states the obvious.

Out of all the judges the show would miss Jason
Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by rebecca87:
“Watch some of his routines before calling him boring.

Robin is the only one on the panel worth listening to.”

He is without doubt the best skater and should be by far the most qualified to talk. I just find him so dull. He drones on with really obvious stuff. A minute listening to him seems like an hour.
Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“He's only an Olympic gold medallist - so what the hell does he know?

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I agree. Why is it do you think then that Jason seems to be the only person that gives advice on how the contestants can improve?
Smokeychan1
08-02-2010
I love Robin, especially when he gets a little snippy as he did with Holly this week when she questioned the marks for someone mucking up a difficult routine.

Also loved his eye-rolling when Emma said Dr Hilary was "stable." He had me in stiches.
Dazzer1971
08-02-2010
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“I love Robin, especially when he gets a little snippy as he did with Holly this week when she questioned the marks for someone mucking up a difficult routine.

Also loved his eye-rolling when Emma said Dr Hilary was "stable." He had me in stiches.”

Just dont see it but fair plays if you like him. I thought Holly was spot on. Cant understand how he marked Mikey lower then Heather and Emily. The girls are being dragged all over the place. Mikey tried a hard routine and got voted down for it.
*Sparkle*
08-02-2010
Holly asked a sensible question, and I sort-of got what Robin was trying to say, but he didn't explain it very well. I think he was trying to keep it short and simple, and missed the detail.

I rate Robin as a sensible judge, but just because you are a great skater doesn't make you automatically good at judging the same discipline. It's a related, but different skill.
icedragon
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by *Sparkle*:
“Holly asked a sensible question, and I sort-of got what Robin was trying to say, but he didn't explain it very well. I think he was trying to keep it short and simple, and missed the detail.

I rate Robin as a sensible judge, but just because you are a great skater doesn't make you automatically good at judging the same discipline. It's a related, but different skill.”


I agree with you on Robin. I usually like listening to his opinion but sometimes I think he simply doesn't remember what is difficult to learn or what's easy, as he learned everything a long time ago. And those who have natural talent like Robin simply don't understand the struggles for us mere mortals to achieve what seem to them to be simple things. I dont' think he gave Mikey much credit for the back crossrolls or the toe steps as these things are easy peasy for him. And what was he looking at saying Emily's required element was better - perhaps he was distracted by the dress!
thenetworkbabe
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by Dazzer1971:
“Is this the most boring man on the planet?

I find him the worst judge also. He should know more then any of them.

This week he gave Emily more then Mikey which was just silly to most and backed it up by saying it did not matter that Mikeys routine was much harder.

Also the Skating Element this week was much harder for the blokes doing the spins. All the girls were pulled around by the male professional and the blokes all had to do it on their own in time with the woman.

At the start of the show he said the women were along way in front of the blokes. Another silly statement i would say. Haley aside the blokes are a better standard.”

Emily did the compulsory element and got it right. Mikey's routine was littered with errors and didn't have that much content to start with . robin explained his marks. It makes sense. Neither got a very high mark.

His judgement on the males was interesting and turned out to be more accurate by the end of the show. At the start Hayley was ahead but Daniella was being beaten by one boy. Some would argue that even that was because Mikey was being overmarked and Daniella's marks were a bit mean. By the end all of the males, except Dr H who improved to nowhere much, had gone down or stayed the same or gone back where they had been earlier on. Daniella moved on to 20. Sharon produced her best performance , Emily produced her best and Hayley but for one trip would have scored 24 or 25 for the first time.

In the event , the males ended up even further behind and all now look like they have major problems. Its not over, because we also saw that Hayley shouldn't be given too much and Daniella needs the right routines, but the night did make his comment to the boys seem even stranger - it certainly didn't make them perform better.
Tiger Rose
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Emily did the compulsory element and got it right. Mikey's routine was littered with errors and didn't have that much content to start with . robin explained his marks. It makes sense. Neither got a very high mark.

His judgement on the males was interesting and turned out to be more accurate by the end of the show. At the start Hayley was ahead but Daniella was being beaten by one boy. Some would argue that even that was because Mikey was being overmarked and Daniella's marks were a bit mean. By the end all of the males, except Dr H who improved to nowhere much, had gone down or stayed the same or gone back where they had been earlier on. Daniella moved on to 20. Sharon produced her best performance , Emily produced her best and Hayley but for one trip would have scored 24 or 25 for the first time.

In the event , the males ended up even further behind and all now look like they have major problems. Its not over, because we also saw that Hayley shouldn't be given too much and Daniella needs the right routines, but the night did make his comment to the boys seem even stranger - it certainly didn't make them perform better.”

So did Mikey, it was one of the best of the night & he got into the spin unaided by Mel. I am normally a fan of Robin's but he got it wrong this week. Mikey was definitely better than Emily & how on earth did he give him the same score as Hilary.

Hopefully Robin will be back to his old self once he comes back from the olympics.
thenetworkbabe
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“So did Mikey, it was one of the best of the night & he got into the spin unaided by Mel. I am normally a fan of Robin's but he got it wrong this week. Mikey was definitely better than Emily & how on earth did he give him the same score as Hilary.

Hopefully Robin will be back to his old self once he comes back from the olympics.”

Depends how you count Mikey's errors though? Emma's twitter reckons there were 4 trips and the routine suffered. Emily did something with less difficulty and got it mostly right. At some point those two converge and if they converge on 15 the mark has to arrive there,

Which raises the old question of whether and how Robin can steer the overall mark to where he thinks it should be given he has two judges who can mark very strangely. ... and the other old problem that more difficult routines are by definition more difficult to do.
LishaG
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by rebecca87:
“Watch some of his routines before calling him boring.

Robin is the only one on the panel worth listening to.”

Sorry, and this isn't a reflection of my opinion of Robin at all; I agree he's the most qualified person to judge.

But since when did being a good ice skater mean you were NOT boring off the ice?
Jim Kowalski
09-02-2010
Don't know about Robin,but I nodded off halfway through this thread
peely
09-02-2010
Originally Posted by LishaG:
“Sorry, and this isn't a reflection of my opinion of Robin at all; I agree he's the most qualified person to judge.

But since when did being a good ice skater mean you were NOT boring off the ice?”

Well, I suppose sensible can equal boring, but I prefer it when they go to Robin to comment as its more interesting, than what Jason says about flying faecal matter - toilet humour - aimed at 9 year olds!

Robin calls it as he sees it, as do all the judges. All of us can see the obvious mistakes - I counted at least two by Mikey, but there were probably more, and the skating judges will see more, but if they are concentrating on one facet, they may miss other things, which explains why they have judges judging on different aspects, and why marks may differ. They did the right thing in replaying Heather's routine when she queried the spin. I played it in slow motion, and it was about 1.5 turns, so the judges were right!
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