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BB3's Alison To Appear On ' Celebrity Stars In Their Eyes'.
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Vilt UK
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by Susann:
“From Sunday Mirror online 25th April 04

SPARE ME A TENOR?

ANOTHER Celebrity Stars In Their Eyes (ITV1, last night) and Cat Deeley's worried about Brian Blessed.


Sunday Mirror”

The Mirror again-anti Big Brother paper-well anyone on the radar.
Poetic Justice
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by OLD FOGEY:
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I agree , Alison was perhaps " Wicked."
" Wicked " to the memory ,
of a proud ,intelligent , talented black woman,
who fought tirelessly ,and at some cost ,
for the rights and dignity ,
due to black people.
Little doubt ,
Nina Simone ,
would have sneered at ,
as Retro-grade ,
and " Uncle Tom "
the Parody , " Big Fat Black Mamma "
which Alison has adopted as her T.V. Persona,
( Identical to Rusty Lee before her .)

All that apart ,
Alison didn`t win ,
because ,

She didn`t look like Nina Simone ,
She didn`t sound like Nina Simone ,
She didn`t even mime the piano well.
In Short ,
She was Crap .
( No change there , then )”

Just when I thought your posts couldn't get any more disgusting. What the heck would you know about the big fat black mama?? And what the heck has Alison singing a Nina Simone song got do with it.

Are you saying that Alison being black and fat is her way of trading on the image of the American big fat black mamma - like its a good thing?? Then you bring up "Uncle Tom"!!?? have you lost your mind?? I cannot believe you wrote such offensive trash.
OLD FOGEY
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by Poetic Justice:
“Just when I thought your posts couldn't get any more disgusting. What the heck would you know about the big fat black mama?? And what the heck has Alison singing a Nina Simone song got do with it.

Are you saying that Alison being black and fat is her way of trading on the image of the American big fat black mamma - like its a good thing?? Then you bring up "Uncle Tom"!!?? have you lost your mind?? I cannot believe you wrote such offensive trash.”

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As you are clearly unable to understand the references in my post ,
you are in no position to pass comment.
Perhaps you would find it less mentally taxing ,
on the " kiddies "
BB Fansite ,
you more frequently inhabit.
( I simply will not waste my time explaining to you )
Poetic Justice
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by OLD FOGEY:
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As you are clearly unable to understand the references in my post ,
you are in no position to pass comment.
Perhaps you would find it less mentally taxing ,
on the " kiddies "
BB Fansite ,
you more frequently inhabit.
( I simply will not waste my time explaining to you )”

I understand alright and I understand how offensive your comments were. I will post exatly where I please and you could offer no explanation that would excuse your ignorance in this matter.
darling
25-04-2004
Alison is awful.

The vast majority of her work - if not all of it - comes as a result of TV companies trying to include more female presenters from an ethnic background. The fact that she's one of the few people alive that can make Fern Britton look slim doesn't hurt either.

The choice of Alison is completely the pits because it puts the cause of genuinely talented black presenters - of whom there are many - back years.
Poetic Justice
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“Alison is awful.

The vast majority of her work - if not all of it - comes as a result of TV companies trying to include more female presenters from an ethnic background. The fact that she's one of the few people alive that can make Fern Britton look slim doesn't hurt either.

The choice of Alison is completely the pits because it puts the cause of genuinely talented black presenters - of whom there are many - back years. ”

What rubbish

Presenters are presenters Alison being black should not be an issue. If you don't like her that's one thing, but her colour should not be an issue. You wouldn't say for instance that Richard Madeley has put the cause of genuinely talented white presenters back years would you??
Vilt UK
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by Poetic Justice:
“What rubbish

Presenters are presenters Alison being black should not be an issue. If you don't like her that's one thing, but her colour should not be an issue. You wouldn't say for instance that Richard Madeley has put the cause of genuinely talented white presenters back years would you?? ”

er I think you will have to concede that was both barrels at the same time.
darling
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by Poetic Justice:
“What rubbish Presenters are presenters Alison being black should not be an issue. If you don't like her that's one thing, but her colour should not be an issue. You wouldn't say for instance that Richard Madeley has put the cause of genuinely talented white presenters back years would you??”

I would actually.

And that's not a fair comparison anyway, because almost all presenters are white. Black presenters still need to be better than average - just to show that they can be. And they can - unless stupid editors hire fools like Alison, of course.
Poetic Justice
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“I would actually.

And that's not a fair comparison anyway, because almost all presenters are white. Black presenters still need to be better than average - just to show that they can be. And they can - unless stupid editors hire fools like Alison, of course. ”

You wouldn't because you wouldn't use the term "white presenter". So you're saying that all the black presenters around are better than average??
Aren't black presenters allowed to be average like some of their white counterparts??
Alison is a presenter whether you like her or not. Her colour should be of no relevance at all. I'm sorry but that sort of attitude is ignorance pure and simple.
darling
25-04-2004
There are times when I really can't be bothered to answer.

This is definitely one of them.
Vilt UK
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“There are times when I really can't be bothered to answer.

This is definitely one of them. ”

That always happens when they change something in the matrix. ie when they lose.
darling
25-04-2004
If it makes you happy to think that Vilt, jolly good.
Vilt UK
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“If it makes you happy to think that Vilt, jolly good. ”

you never bothered to apologise about Kate's and other young girls norks did you?
darling
25-04-2004
What!!!

If you're waiting for me to apologise I can only advise you not to hold your breath.

Or, on reflection, maybe you should........
OLD FOGEY
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“There are times when I really can't be bothered to answer.

This is definitely one of them. ”

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Yes , just leave her in indignant ignorance ,
she`s happy there.
( Think , " Pearls " and " Swine ".)
Vilt UK
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by OLD FOGEY:
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Yes , just leave her in indignant ignorance ,
she`s happy there.
( Think , " Pearls " and " Swine ".)
”

THIS IS NOT A JADE THREAD.
OLD FOGEY
25-04-2004
Originally Posted by Vilt UK:
“THIS IS NOT A JADE THREAD.”

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Be careful ,
P.J. will get offended. (You know she wants to ! )
Beth Hart
26-04-2004
That's enough bickering, please stay on topic.

Beth.
OLD FOGEY
26-04-2004
Originally Posted by Beth Hart:
“That's enough bickering, please stay on topic.

Beth.”

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How was your holiday ?
Grand Canyon
26-04-2004
Originally Posted by darling:
“Alison is awful.

The vast majority of her work - if not all of it - comes as a result of TV companies trying to include more female presenters from an ethnic background. The fact that she's one of the few people alive that can make Fern Britton look slim doesn't hurt either.

The choice of Alison is completely the pits because it puts the cause of genuinely talented black presenters - of whom there are many - back years. ”

I disagree that Alison is awful but you have a right to your opinion.

I also disagree that the choice of Alison is the pits. She has quite a lot of fans out there including myself who find her a joy to watch.
Who cares what size she is. Are you saying that all presenters should be handsome and pretty with 'good' bodies. We live in a world full of all shapes and sizes and whilst it is nice to admire someone on telly for what they look like, it's their personalities and sense of character that come across to me in the end.

No one should be judged on their colour/race for their presentation skills. She certainly does not put the cause of any talented presenter, whether black or white back years.

I certainly hope Alison's career lasts for a long time yet.
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