BT vision+ versus Sky+

latchy9 · 11-02-2010, 13:54

I've recently started using BT vision + and was unable to find anyone doing a comparison against Sky+.
As I have both, I thought that a comparison might be helpful for those considering the move.

Where is BT Vision better than Sky+?

The range of on demand (Sky call this anytime) programming is excellent. Entire series of programmes are available and a wide variety of subjects is covered.

The picture quality is better as there are no dropouts or sparklies that sometimes occur on satellite (especially during bad weather)

BT Vision+ supports output at 720 and 1080.

Disc capacity is bigger on BT vision+ than on Sky+.

Where is BT Vision worse than Sky+?

No surround sound! Once you've got used to all Sky programming in surround, getting used to stereo again is a bit of a blow. The box 'does' support 5.1, but only premium (ie. expensive) content has this. All free content that I could find was stereo only.

The remote is very fiddly by comparison to the Sky+ remote and although programmable, supports far fewer devices than the Sky+ unit.

The EPG and general user interface is clumsy by comparison to the Sky+ unit. You cannot adjust the amount of time that the channel details remain on screen, they take up about a third of the screen and are less intuitive than on Sky+. In short, my wife can easily use Sky+ but gets frustrated with BT vision+.

Far fewer options about the setup of the BT vision+ are available than on Sky+.

4:3 support is better on Sky+ than on BT vision as it supports 4:3L.

BT vision tech support are very hard to get through to. I've called them twice and averaged 10 minutes on hold. One of the support guys told me that the bandwidth for BT vision came off my broadband allowance (incorrectly) and was unable to diagnose the surround sound problem. By comparison, Sky's 5 minute average hold seems impressive.

If you want recent movies or sport, BT vision is woeful. ESPN cards are supported (for extra of course) but the selection is poor by comparison to Sky.

The number of channels on BT vision is about a quarter of that on Sky's most basic package.

You MUST have BT broadband to use BT vision. This means living with BT's bandwidth policy (eg no torrents during peak hours).

I've no particular axe to grind here as I have both systems. I was considering cancelling Sky+ altogether if BT vision came up trumps. I don't think that I will now though!
In short, if you can get Sky+, the basic package is a better deal than BT vision. If you can't then BT vision+ is a whole lot better than Freeview.

wwwebber · 11-02-2010, 15:22

This thread has "car crash" written all over it

One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway.

In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe).

You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either.

Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again

stuntmaster · 11-02-2010, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwwebber

This thread has "car crash" written all over it

One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway.

In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe).

You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either.

Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again

I bet you £10 that matterhorn is the next to post. regarding this issue.

MostynDS · 11-02-2010, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntmaster

I bet you £10 that matterhorn is the next to post. regarding this issue.

Only Meee!

I agree with the original poster in general but his point that the on-demand library was excellent is wrong. It is, in fact, nearly all American and therefor; rubbish.

It is certainly a pale shadow of the on demand collection that Virgin Media offers it's customers.

I'm counting the days until I can put my poor-value Vision experience behind me.

latchy9 · 11-02-2010, 16:27

I did expect a torrent of comments, but even if I've missed the odd point, I could not find anywhere that offered any sort of unbiased comparison between the two services.

Please feel free to post links to one if I've missed it!

BTW, sky DOES have VOD, it's called Anytime. It is however on a much smaller scale than BT Vision. (and uses up half your hard disk space).

I'm not interested in BT Vision bashing, but I do want people who are thinking of leaving sky for this service to have access to a comparison BEFORE committing to 12 months with BT.

johnson293 · 11-02-2010, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwwebber

This thread has "car crash" written all over it

One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway.

In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe).

You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either.

Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again ;)

Why wait? You are guessing that Sky Sport will go wholesale, whereas the OP is making the comparison of what is available now.

This is a very balanced view, by someone who has both systems/services, yet it doesn't paint BT Vision in a glowing light and guess what - you pick holes in it.

Now there's a surprise!

The only people who turn these threads in 'Car Crashes' are the BT Vision fans who are the ones that (more often than not) end up turning these threads into petty arguments.

And Stuntmaster... pay up the £10!

johnson293 · 11-02-2010, 16:41

To the OP, that was very good comparison, and a decent balanced view. As you can see, you pointed out BT Vision's flaws, so it wasn't roundly applauded by some on here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by latchy9

Disc capacity is bigger on BT vision+ than on Sky+.

Sky are no longer selling Sky+ boxes, but are now giving away the Sky+HD boxes free - these have a 300GB HDD on them - with 160GB available for recordings, and the remainder reserved for Anytime - Sky's VOD service (wwwebber).

So currently, the Sky boxes have the same recording capacity as the BT vision boxes (160GB).

jam2000 · 11-02-2010, 17:05

Film choice isnt poor on BTV, there are lots of newly released films to watch. Plus you dont have to wait you can watch it whenever you want.

As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport.

scotty2808 · 11-02-2010, 17:20

reasonable arguments.

it's really down to preference.
there are other costs associated with going with BT/Sky, but purely from a cost perspective i can't complain at the Vision base package. i think it's decent value for money. getting EPSN included is great value too.

it may have less channels, but for the most part the channels on Sky's base package are a loada rubbish anyway.

btw - Opening poster said something like "You cannot adjust the amount of time that the channel details remain on screen"

- press exit then. It clears everything pronto.

latchy9 · 11-02-2010, 18:54

Yes, you can press exit, but why should you? If you could set the preference then this would not be necessary.

Having a manual workaround is not an excuse for not including the feature...

technoguy · 11-02-2010, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson293

Sky are no longer selling Sky+ boxes, but are now giving away the Sky+HD boxes free - these have a 300GB HDD on them - with 160GB available for recordings, and the remainder reserved for Anytime - Sky's VOD service (wwwebber).

So currently, the Sky boxes have the same recording capacity as the BT vision boxes (160GB).

Sky have just released a new SKY+HD box that comes with a 1.5 terabyte drive that is getting rave reviews. So SKY boxes now have a much higher recording capacity than BT Vision.

Once SKY's VOD service launches in April, BT Vision and Virgin media will be hard to justify bothering with.

Also SKY's 3D channel is also starting in April, which has to be seen to be believed. It's stunning. Forget all the old 3D you've seen this one really works great.

spaceman05 · 11-02-2010, 20:37

ducks for cover

spaceman05 · 11-02-2010, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by technoguy

Sky have just released a new SKY+HD box that comes with a 1.5 terabyte drive that is getting rave reviews. So SKY boxes now have a much higher recording capacity than BT Vision.

Once SKY's VOD service launches in April, BT Vision and Virgin media will be hard to justify bothering with.

Also SKY's 3D channel is also starting in April, which has to be seen to be believed. It's stunning. Forget all the old 3D you've seen this one really works great.

better rush out and spend 2 grand on a new telly then, dont wanna miss out on this must have

spaceman05 · 11-02-2010, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by latchy9

I did expect a torrent of comments, but even if I've missed the odd point, I could not find anywhere that offered any sort of unbiased comparison between the two services.

Please feel free to post links to one if I've missed it!

BTW, sky DOES have VOD, it's called Anytime. It is however on a much smaller scale than BT Vision. (and uses up half your hard disk space).

I'm not interested in BT Vision bashing, but I do want people who are thinking of leaving sky for this service to have access to a comparison BEFORE committing to 12 months with BT.

seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches

johnson293 · 11-02-2010, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman05

seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches

Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of *stuff* that most people has seen before!

Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer.

scotty2808 · 11-02-2010, 21:29

Saying Sky Anytime is VOD is pushing it.
It's just a set of recordings in a list.

Anyone got any info on this Sky VOD ? Is it something that'll come via the STB ?

I've got Sky Player... it's horrendous in the evenings.
Cancelling it once the special offer ends later this month.

Rowey · 11-02-2010, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty2808

Saying Sky Anytime is VOD is pushing it.
It's just a set of recordings in a list.

Anyone got any info on this Sky VOD ? Is it something that'll come via the STB ?

I've got Sky Player... it's horrendous in the evenings.
Cancelling it once the special offer ends later this month.

SKY's VOD launches soon and is called SKY Anytime+ and will work similar to how BT Vision does. You just connect your router to the sky hd box's Ethernet port. Then select anytime+ from your sky guide. Then browse through 100s of thousands of on demand programmes, movies, catch up tv, iplayer etc etc etc.....

Here's a pic of the movie section selected...
http://www.image-gaming.co.uk/phpbb3/images/photo.jpg

warrior51 · 11-02-2010, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by jam2000

Fi

As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport.

..and there lies a problem..."on demand".. ..precious few live and none in HD .... "barn door and bolted horses scenario" again with BT...

spaceman05 · 11-02-2010, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson293

Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of *stuff* that most people has seen before!

Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer.

maybe full of stuff been seen before, but the majority is worth watching again, the stuff on anytime, i do wonder why sky bother

MostynDS · 11-02-2010, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jam2000

Film choice isnt poor on BTV, there are lots of newly released films to watch. Plus you dont have to wait you can watch it whenever you want.

As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport.

Does ANYONE want to watch old EPL games on demand??? I live and breathe football but would NEVER want to watch a game in it's entirity if it wasn't live. There are higlights available everywhere (MOTD, News Channels, Online) to stop me needing to do that.

So all that BTV has to offer football fanatics like me are the games on ESPN which will halve next year and only be replaced with obsure FA Cup games. And before you try the 'England home games' argument, don't bother. I'm Welsh.

I'm a sports fan, and although I regularly scour the Sports section to which I subscribe. I've never watched anything on there because it is out of date the moment it appears.

technoguy · 11-02-2010, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman05

seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches

It has brand new Lost and 24 on there and new movies from sky movies all in HD. Also popular shows from E4HD. So I don't understand when you say crap nobody ever watches.

But this is just the beginning, the full SKY Anytime+ service will soon offer a huge library of on demand programming using the broadband network. No matter what you're into the chances are it will be on anytime+.

noise747 · 12-02-2010, 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson293

Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of *stuff* that most people has seen before!

Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer.

Anytime is not VOD, if you class anytime as VOD then you have to class TUTV as VOD. Anytime is Skys way of trying to pursued people to part with more cash to get packages they have not got.
On a mates box I noticed that mopst of the stuff on Anytime was from channels his family don't subscribe to, so they can't watch it anyway. Just Sky propaganda.

noise747 · 12-02-2010, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by technoguy

It has brand new Lost and 24 on there and new movies from sky movies all in HD. Also popular shows from E4HD. So I don't understand when you say crap nobody ever watches.

But this is just the beginning, the full SKY Anytime+ service will soon offer a huge library of on demand programming using the broadband network. No matter what you're into the chances are it will be on anytime+.

I bet it will cost extra and then you got a problem of it taking up peoples bandwidth usage, and with no QOS it is going to hit and miss.

I am not a great fan of BT vision, but at least it got the QOS which should give a steady stream.

I can see it coming, people watching Sky Anytime + and then they get a email from their ISP, sorry but you gone over your limits and can't use your internet anymore or we will cut the speed right down. Then you will still be paying your suybscription for sky Anytime +, be4cause I doubt it will be free and you will nto be able to use it.

sky should make their mind up if they are going to be a satellite T.V broadcaster or online broadcaster.

johnson293 · 12-02-2010, 08:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by noise747

Anytime is not VOD, if you class anytime as VOD then you have to class TUTV as VOD. Anytime is Skys way of trying to pursued people to part with more cash to get packages they have not got.
On a mates box I noticed that mopst of the stuff on Anytime was from channels his family don't subscribe to, so they can't watch it anyway. Just Sky propaganda.

Yeah, i'd agree with that - there is stuff on there (sport) that I can't watch as I dont sub to Sky Sports.

However, i'd disagree when you say it isn't VOD. The premis is the same as BT Vision VOD - you watch it/stop watching/go back to watching it when you want. The only difference i can see is that BT's VOD is server based and streamed to the box as required (which can casue its own separate problems), where as the (albeit limited compared to BTV) Sky content is downloaded to the Sky box beforehand for selection.

Its still Video on demand, when you want to watch it.

wwwebber · 12-02-2010, 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnson293

Its still Video on demand, when you want to watch it.

My old VHS tapes are obviously VOD as well then

You have a very weak argument from you again

11-02-2010, 13:54	#1
latchy9 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5	BT vision+ versus Sky+ I've recently started using BT vision + and was unable to find anyone doing a comparison against Sky+. As I have both, I thought that a comparison might be helpful for those considering the move. Where is BT Vision better than Sky+? The range of on demand (Sky call this anytime) programming is excellent. Entire series of programmes are available and a wide variety of subjects is covered. The picture quality is better as there are no dropouts or sparklies that sometimes occur on satellite (especially during bad weather) BT Vision+ supports output at 720 and 1080. Disc capacity is bigger on BT vision+ than on Sky+. Where is BT Vision worse than Sky+? No surround sound! Once you've got used to all Sky programming in surround, getting used to stereo again is a bit of a blow. The box 'does' support 5.1, but only premium (ie. expensive) content has this. All free content that I could find was stereo only. The remote is very fiddly by comparison to the Sky+ remote and although programmable, supports far fewer devices than the Sky+ unit. The EPG and general user interface is clumsy by comparison to the Sky+ unit. You cannot adjust the amount of time that the channel details remain on screen, they take up about a third of the screen and are less intuitive than on Sky+. In short, my wife can easily use Sky+ but gets frustrated with BT vision+. Far fewer options about the setup of the BT vision+ are available than on Sky+. 4:3 support is better on Sky+ than on BT vision as it supports 4:3L. BT vision tech support are very hard to get through to. I've called them twice and averaged 10 minutes on hold. One of the support guys told me that the bandwidth for BT vision came off my broadband allowance (incorrectly) and was unable to diagnose the surround sound problem. By comparison, Sky's 5 minute average hold seems impressive. If you want recent movies or sport, BT vision is woeful. ESPN cards are supported (for extra of course) but the selection is poor by comparison to Sky. The number of channels on BT vision is about a quarter of that on Sky's most basic package. You MUST have BT broadband to use BT vision. This means living with BT's bandwidth policy (eg no torrents during peak hours). I've no particular axe to grind here as I have both systems. I was considering cancelling Sky+ altogether if BT vision came up trumps. I don't think that I will now though! In short, if you can get Sky+, the basic package is a better deal than BT vision. If you can't then BT vision+ is a whole lot better than Freeview.

11-02-2010, 15:22	#2
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	This thread has "car crash" written all over it One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway. In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe). You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either. Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again

11-02-2010, 15:40	#3
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber This thread has "car crash" written all over it One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway. In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe). You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either. Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again I bet you £10 that matterhorn is the next to post. regarding this issue.

11-02-2010, 16:20	#4
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by stuntmaster I bet you £10 that matterhorn is the next to post. regarding this issue. Only Meee! I agree with the original poster in general but his point that the on-demand library was excellent is wrong. It is, in fact, nearly all American and therefor; rubbish. It is certainly a pale shadow of the on demand collection that Virgin Media offers it's customers. I'm counting the days until I can put my poor-value Vision experience behind me.

11-02-2010, 16:27	#5
latchy9 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5	I did expect a torrent of comments, but even if I've missed the odd point, I could not find anywhere that offered any sort of unbiased comparison between the two services. Please feel free to post links to one if I've missed it! BTW, sky DOES have VOD, it's called Anytime. It is however on a much smaller scale than BT Vision. (and uses up half your hard disk space). I'm not interested in BT Vision bashing, but I do want people who are thinking of leaving sky for this service to have access to a comparison BEFORE committing to 12 months with BT.

11-02-2010, 16:28	#6
johnson293 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243	Quote: Originally Posted by wwwebber This thread has "car crash" written all over it One point I must mention. You say that support for recent movies on BTVision woeful. I think you're wrong. BTVision has most if not all the latest movies that Sky has except Box Office which a premium movie service anyway. In regards to Sport - you get what you pay for. And ESPN is actually free on BTVision (£10 card fee I believe). You also dont mention TV Replay at all. BTVision is the only platform offering TV Replay from the 5 main terrestrial channels. Sky doesnt offer VOD and thus doesnt offer any kind of TV Replay either. Lastly - wait until later in the year when hopefully stuff like Sky Sports goes wholesale - then do your comparison again ;) Why wait? You are guessing that Sky Sport will go wholesale, whereas the OP is making the comparison of what is available now. This is a very balanced view, by someone who has both systems/services, yet it doesn't paint BT Vision in a glowing light and guess what - you pick holes in it. Now there's a surprise! The only people who turn these threads in 'Car Crashes' are the BT Vision fans who are the ones that (more often than not) end up turning these threads into petty arguments. And Stuntmaster... pay up the £10!

11-02-2010, 16:41	#7
johnson293 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243	To the OP, that was very good comparison, and a decent balanced view. As you can see, you pointed out BT Vision's flaws, so it wasn't roundly applauded by some on here. Quote: Originally Posted by latchy9 Disc capacity is bigger on BT vision+ than on Sky+. Sky are no longer selling Sky+ boxes, but are now giving away the Sky+HD boxes free - these have a 300GB HDD on them - with 160GB available for recordings, and the remainder reserved for Anytime - Sky's VOD service (wwwebber). So currently, the Sky boxes have the same recording capacity as the BT vision boxes (160GB).

11-02-2010, 17:05	#8
jam2000 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambs Posts: 3,322	Film choice isnt poor on BTV, there are lots of newly released films to watch. Plus you dont have to wait you can watch it whenever you want. As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport.

11-02-2010, 17:20	#9
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	reasonable arguments. it's really down to preference. there are other costs associated with going with BT/Sky, but purely from a cost perspective i can't complain at the Vision base package. i think it's decent value for money. getting EPSN included is great value too. it may have less channels, but for the most part the channels on Sky's base package are a loada rubbish anyway. btw - Opening poster said something like "You cannot adjust the amount of time that the channel details remain on screen" - press exit then. It clears everything pronto.

11-02-2010, 18:54	#10
latchy9 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5	Yes, you can press exit, but why should you? If you could set the preference then this would not be necessary. Having a manual workaround is not an excuse for not including the feature...

11-02-2010, 19:49	#11
technoguy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,064	Quote: Originally Posted by johnson293 Sky are no longer selling Sky+ boxes, but are now giving away the Sky+HD boxes free - these have a 300GB HDD on them - with 160GB available for recordings, and the remainder reserved for Anytime - Sky's VOD service (wwwebber). So currently, the Sky boxes have the same recording capacity as the BT vision boxes (160GB). Sky have just released a new SKY+HD box that comes with a 1.5 terabyte drive that is getting rave reviews. So SKY boxes now have a much higher recording capacity than BT Vision. Once SKY's VOD service launches in April, BT Vision and Virgin media will be hard to justify bothering with. Also SKY's 3D channel is also starting in April, which has to be seen to be believed. It's stunning. Forget all the old 3D you've seen this one really works great.

11-02-2010, 20:37	#12
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	ducks for cover

11-02-2010, 20:39	#13
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by technoguy Sky have just released a new SKY+HD box that comes with a 1.5 terabyte drive that is getting rave reviews. So SKY boxes now have a much higher recording capacity than BT Vision. Once SKY's VOD service launches in April, BT Vision and Virgin media will be hard to justify bothering with. Also SKY's 3D channel is also starting in April, which has to be seen to be believed. It's stunning. Forget all the old 3D you've seen this one really works great. better rush out and spend 2 grand on a new telly then, dont wanna miss out on this must have

11-02-2010, 20:41	#14
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by latchy9 I did expect a torrent of comments, but even if I've missed the odd point, I could not find anywhere that offered any sort of unbiased comparison between the two services. Please feel free to post links to one if I've missed it! BTW, sky DOES have VOD, it's called Anytime. It is however on a much smaller scale than BT Vision. (and uses up half your hard disk space). I'm not interested in BT Vision bashing, but I do want people who are thinking of leaving sky for this service to have access to a comparison BEFORE committing to 12 months with BT. seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches

11-02-2010, 21:12	#15
johnson293 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243	Quote: Originally Posted by spaceman05 seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of stuff that most people has seen before! Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer.

11-02-2010, 21:29	#16
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	Saying Sky Anytime is VOD is pushing it. It's just a set of recordings in a list. Anyone got any info on this Sky VOD ? Is it something that'll come via the STB ? I've got Sky Player... it's horrendous in the evenings. Cancelling it once the special offer ends later this month.

11-02-2010, 21:48	#17
Rowey Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,878	Quote: Originally Posted by scotty2808 Saying Sky Anytime is VOD is pushing it. It's just a set of recordings in a list. Anyone got any info on this Sky VOD ? Is it something that'll come via the STB ? I've got Sky Player... it's horrendous in the evenings. Cancelling it once the special offer ends later this month. SKY's VOD launches soon and is called SKY Anytime+ and will work similar to how BT Vision does. You just connect your router to the sky hd box's Ethernet port. Then select anytime+ from your sky guide. Then browse through 100s of thousands of on demand programmes, movies, catch up tv, iplayer etc etc etc..... Here's a pic of the movie section selected... http://www.image-gaming.co.uk/phpbb3/images/photo.jpg

11-02-2010, 22:04	#18
warrior51 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 533	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 Fi As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport. ..and there lies a problem..."on demand".. ..precious few live and none in HD .... "barn door and bolted horses scenario" again with BT...

11-02-2010, 22:06	#19
spaceman05 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,113	Quote: Originally Posted by johnson293 Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of stuff that most people has seen before! Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer. maybe full of stuff been seen before, but the majority is worth watching again, the stuff on anytime, i do wonder why sky bother

11-02-2010, 22:12	#20
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by jam2000 Film choice isnt poor on BTV, there are lots of newly released films to watch. Plus you dont have to wait you can watch it whenever you want. As for sport it has far more than Sky, showing 242 EPL games on demand as well as SPL and other sport. Does ANYONE want to watch old EPL games on demand??? I live and breathe football but would NEVER want to watch a game in it's entirity if it wasn't live. There are higlights available everywhere (MOTD, News Channels, Online) to stop me needing to do that. So all that BTV has to offer football fanatics like me are the games on ESPN which will halve next year and only be replaced with obsure FA Cup games. And before you try the 'England home games' argument, don't bother. I'm Welsh. I'm a sports fan, and although I regularly scour the Sports section to which I subscribe. I've never watched anything on there because it is out of date the moment it appears.

11-02-2010, 22:27	#21
technoguy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,064	Quote: Originally Posted by spaceman05 seriuosly do you watch anytime, it is just full of crap that nobody ever watches It has brand new Lost and 24 on there and new movies from sky movies all in HD. Also popular shows from E4HD. So I don't understand when you say crap nobody ever watches. But this is just the beginning, the full SKY Anytime+ service will soon offer a huge library of on demand programming using the broadband network. No matter what you're into the chances are it will be on anytime+.

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BT vision+ versus Sky+

12-02-2010, 08:12	#22
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by johnson293 Similar could be said of BT Visions VOD - Full of stuff that most people has seen before! Not a very good argument though - Anytime is still VOD, which mr wwwebber claimed Sky didn't offer. Anytime is not VOD, if you class anytime as VOD then you have to class TUTV as VOD. Anytime is Skys way of trying to pursued people to part with more cash to get packages they have not got. On a mates box I noticed that mopst of the stuff on Anytime was from channels his family don't subscribe to, so they can't watch it anyway. Just Sky propaganda.

12-02-2010, 08:17	#23
noise747 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 22,810	Quote: Originally Posted by technoguy It has brand new Lost and 24 on there and new movies from sky movies all in HD. Also popular shows from E4HD. So I don't understand when you say crap nobody ever watches. But this is just the beginning, the full SKY Anytime+ service will soon offer a huge library of on demand programming using the broadband network. No matter what you're into the chances are it will be on anytime+. I bet it will cost extra and then you got a problem of it taking up peoples bandwidth usage, and with no QOS it is going to hit and miss. I am not a great fan of BT vision, but at least it got the QOS which should give a steady stream. I can see it coming, people watching Sky Anytime + and then they get a email from their ISP, sorry but you gone over your limits and can't use your internet anymore or we will cut the speed right down. Then you will still be paying your suybscription for sky Anytime +, be4cause I doubt it will be free and you will nto be able to use it. sky should make their mind up if they are going to be a satellite T.V broadcaster or online broadcaster.

12-02-2010, 08:29	#24
johnson293 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243	Quote: Originally Posted by noise747 Anytime is not VOD, if you class anytime as VOD then you have to class TUTV as VOD. Anytime is Skys way of trying to pursued people to part with more cash to get packages they have not got. On a mates box I noticed that mopst of the stuff on Anytime was from channels his family don't subscribe to, so they can't watch it anyway. Just Sky propaganda. Yeah, i'd agree with that - there is stuff on there (sport) that I can't watch as I dont sub to Sky Sports. However, i'd disagree when you say it isn't VOD. The premis is the same as BT Vision VOD - you watch it/stop watching/go back to watching it when you want. The only difference i can see is that BT's VOD is server based and streamed to the box as required (which can casue its own separate problems), where as the (albeit limited compared to BTV) Sky content is downloaded to the Sky box beforehand for selection. Its still Video on demand, when you want to watch it.

12-02-2010, 09:48	#25
wwwebber Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,536	Quote: Originally Posted by johnson293 Its still Video on demand, when you want to watch it. My old VHS tapes are obviously VOD as well then You have a very weak argument from you again