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Old 08-03-2010, 17:11
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Sunday 7th March Overnights
BBC One
17:35- BBC News: 3.2m (17.0%)
22:00- BBC News: 4.2m (17.3%)

ITV1
18:30- ITV News & Weather: 3.8m (17.6%)
22:15- ITV News & Weather: 4.4m (21.6%)
Interesting that both the ITV News bulletins beat the BBC News last night.

This is interesting to note when you consider people write off ITV News on the basis of the weekday figures.

People will still tune in to ITV News if it is there so aren't avoiding it as a matter of principle.
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Old 08-03-2010, 17:12
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Interesting that both the ITV News bulletins beat the BBC News last night.

This is interesting to note when you consider people write off ITV News on the basis of the weekday figures.

People will still tune in to ITV News if it is there so aren't avoiding it as a matter of principle.
Sunday's really the exception though in the first few months as ITV has higher figures than BBC - in yesterday's case, the FA Cup was on - so people would keep it on before TV Burp, DOI and by the time that has finished at 22:15, the BBC News would be near its conclusion.
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Old 08-03-2010, 17:42
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Can anyone tell me exactly what Corrie got on Friday at 1930?

I know DS is reporting 8.8m, but I need it for the full slot. (1930-2000)
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Old 08-03-2010, 18:22
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Can anyone tell me exactly what Corrie got on Friday at 1930?

I know DS is reporting 8.8m, but I need it for the full slot. (1930-2000)
8.8m is actually correct as that is the number sonny_2001 reported here.

I think DS have made a boo-boo and have actually reported the entire slot for both Corrie episodes. Wouldn't the second episode in DS's report have a much higher % if they had reported the 25 minutes only?
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:01
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So that's another 4.4m for TV Burp which brings this week to 9.15m, most likely 10m in officials and ITV2 repeats etc bring in around 1 million.

So, with 11m viewers in total Harry must be doing something right. Harry may have included some very immature segments in recent series, but this is what viewers want! It's now a show the whole family can watch and there really is something for everyone in it, which is why it's so popular! He's managed to keep the classic Harry elements as well as appealing to new viewers aswell, so well done Harry!

What Harry doesn't make on Saturday he makes up on other showings, which a lot of people tend to forget. Because when Harry was bringing in 6-7m on Saturdays the repeat showings were around 3m viewers.
If we used every shpwing of a programme to make up the total audience then we would be getting quite a few near 11 million. By that logic Eastenders got 20 million the other week and Wallace and Gromit is near 30 million now. By looking at only ITV1 showings because including ITV2 showings is guesswork as hardly any are in barb's top 10 lists then he got 11 million first week of February just on ITV1. Superb. But, since that he has not got over 10 million on ITV1 and I doubt they are all watching on ITV2 either. till very good but a million have gone missing.

He'd be an idiot and it'll be a sad day if it does happen. All the money in the world won't give you the audience you'll only find on the two main channels - and certainly not on Sky1!
He would be the face of the channel, pull in record ratings for Sky One and get have a huge pay increase. I wouldnt be sad and I bet Harry certainly wouldnt be.

Just a few more 2010 series averages:

Law & Order: UK finished with a series average of 6.34m, which is down just 0.04m from the 2009 run, despite tough opposition from Hustle.

Overall, Law and Order's series average just topped Hustle by 0.07m. Very, very close between the two - L&O edged it due to better timeshifts, I think.
Have you included HD figures in these averages? If you havent then I would of thought Hustle would have come out on top quite easily.

Interesting that both the ITV News bulletins beat the BBC News last night.

This is interesting to note when you consider people write off ITV News on the basis of the weekday figures.

People will still tune in to ITV News if it is there so aren't avoiding it as a matter of principle.
ITV News does better on Sundays purely because it has Dancing On Ice either side of it. The fact that ITV news can only beat BBC News by 200,000 despite having a bigger lead-in of 3 million is nothing to boast about. Also the earlier BBC News was on an hour earlier than ITV Evening News so that is a little unfair to judge also.


8.8m is actually correct as that is the number sonny_2001 reported here.

I think DS have made a boo-boo and have actually reported the entire slot for both Corrie episodes. Wouldn't the second episode in DS's report have a much higher % if they had reported the 25 minutes only?
Not really a boo-hoo when they have actually done it right for once.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:02
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He would be the face of the channel, pull in record ratings for Sky One and get have a huge pay increase. I wouldnt be sad and I bet Harry certainly wouldnt be.
The promise of being the face of minority channel Sky1 is hardly worth jumping ship for.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:10
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The promise of being the face of minority channel Sky1 is hardly worth jumping ship for.
I think it is. If he can get to make the same show in a better slot, with a bigger budget and a bigger pay cheque for himself I think he should go.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:12
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the money he will get from Sky might be.

Still would be nice to be told either way.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:14
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I think it is. If he can get to make the same show in a better slot, with a bigger budget and a bigger pay cheque for himself I think he should go.
Well yes, if he just wants more money then why not?

But the consequence of that is less exposure, a much smaller audience, and most likely the loss of access to any clips from ITV programming.

But hey, when you've got Angela and Friends to cover I guess it's a small price to pay.

I get the sense that some people are positively gleeful over the possibility of ITV losing one of its bigger hits.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:16
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When does the current TV Burp series finish?
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:18
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When does the current TV Burp series finish?
Two more episodes to go.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:19
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I think it is. If he can get to make the same show in a better slot, with a bigger budget and a bigger pay cheque for himself I think he should go.
In a better slot? I don't think it can get much better than Saturdays @ 7pm and Sundays repeated @ 6:20pm.

When does the current TV Burp series finish?
Two weeks time.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:21
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In a better slot? I don't think it can get much better than Saturdays @ 7pm and Sundays repeated @ 6:20pm.
Exactly. If anything he'd be moved earlier - Sky1 play most of their big entertainment shows on Sundays at 6pm because realistically they have no hope of competing at any other time.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:29
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Hes not in those slots most of the time. He is moved from 6:30 to 7:30 on Saturdays to accomodate what ever else is on. On Sky1 he would be the focal point of the evening, a fixed slot between 7 or 7:30pm on Sunday night would do well.

At the end of the day a lot of people on here will struggle to see why he is even contemplating the move but im sure he is more focused on the quality of the show, awards and the his back balance rather than whether he gets 6 million on a Saturday night or 2 million on Sky.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:34
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Two more episodes to go.
Two weeks time.
Thanks, both.

ITV aren't always very prompt at announcing their entertainment recommissions, so we could be waiting a while yet.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:43
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A few more of the weekend's Multichannel overnights.

Fri 5th March

BBC4
21:00 Heavy Metal Britannia - 483k (2.1%)

E4 [inc +1]
21:00 How To Look Good Nakid - 0.25m
22:00 Wife Swap - 0.28m

Film4 [inc +1]
18:50 Film: Timeline - 0.22m
21:00 Film: 10 Things I Hate About You - 0.35m

More4 [inc +1]
21:00 Film: Behind Enemy Lines - 0.41m

ITV2
14:35 The Jeremy Kyle Show - 391k (5.7%)
21:00 American Idol - 333k (1.4%)

ITV3
21:00 Kingdom - 433k (1.8%)
22:00 Doc Martin - 645k (3.4%)


Sat 6th March

Channel 4 [inc +1]
17:40 Come Dine With Me Extra Portions - 2.81m

E4 [inc +1]
18:45 The Big Bang Theory - 0.18m
21:00 Film: Wedding Crashers - 0.36m

Film4 [inc +1]
17:30 Film: Niagara - 0.10m
19:15 Film: The Perfect Score - 0.06m

More4 [inc+1]
21:00 The Queen - 0.19m

ITV2
19:00 Film: Runaway Bride - 315k (1.4%)
21:20 Film: The Matrix - 317k (1.8%)

ITV3
17:55 Agatha Christie's Poirot - 576k (2.7%)
20:00 Rosemary and Thyme - 725K (3.1%)
21:00 Lewis - 700k (3.2%)

ITV4
20:00 Minder - 225k (1.0%)


Sunday 7th March

ITV4
21:00 Ultimate Force 198k (0.7%)


C4 Sales, ITV Media
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:43
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ITV aren't always very prompt at announcing their entertainment recommissions, so we could be waiting a while yet.
its not ITV we need to hear from, if Sky don't announce something in the first week after the current series ends, we can assume he is sticking with ITV.

Well yes, if he just wants more money then why not?
if you were given the chance to do your current job for more money, would you say no?

I get the sense that some people are positively gleeful over the possibility of ITV losing one of its bigger hits.
I dont know about gleeful, but it is the kind of thing we have come to expect from ITV.

Also this last series has been poor, and the previous one was not as good as previous series either, so maybe its time the show ended.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:51
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You all seem to be assuming that Sky is the only other possible contender. I know that has been mooted in the media for a while now, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if one or two other broadcasters are in the mix.

My gut feeling is Harry isn't too happy at ITV right now and is looking at all his options carefully. But I don't think he will end up on Sky1. It's possible, but I think if he can maintain the terrestrial exposure and end up somewhere that can provide him more creative flexibility, then that would be his preferred option.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:52
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Hes not in those slots most of the time. He is moved from 6:30 to 7:30 on Saturdays to accomodate what ever else is on. On Sky1 he would be the focal point of the evening, a fixed slot between 7 or 7:30pm on Sunday night would do well.
6pm more likely.

At the end of the day a lot of people on here will struggle to see why he is even contemplating the move but im sure he is more focused on the quality of the show, awards and the his back balance rather than whether he gets 6 million on a Saturday night or 2 million on Sky.
If he moves it will be the bank balance he'll be thinking about. Quality has nothing to do with it.

if you were given the chance to do your current job for more money, would you say no?
Perhaps but I am not paid as handsomely as Harry.

I dont know about gleeful, but it is the kind of thing we have come to expect from ITV.
In what way?

Also this last series has been poor, and the previous one was not as good as previous series either, so maybe its time the show ended.
I haven't noticed any obvious dip in quality. I have been enjoying it as much as I ever have done. The general response on the DS thread has been the same. A few people say it's declined but people have been saying that for a very long time.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:54
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Well yes, if he just wants more money then why not?

But the consequence of that is less exposure, a much smaller audience, and most likely the loss of access to any clips from ITV programming.

But hey, when you've got Angela and Friends to cover I guess it's a small price to pay.

I get the sense that some people are positively gleeful over the possibility of ITV losing one of its bigger hits.
I dont see why your so defensive of ITV and are so against Harry moving to Sky. He will still be producing the same show and if people enjoy the show that much im sure a lot will follow him to Sky. Im not "gleeful" about the situation, I can just see more benefits for Harry than others seem to.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:56
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I dont see why your so defensive of ITV and are so against Harry moving to Sky.
I'm not being 'defensive' I just detest the way shows build up an audience on a FTA channel and then are poached by Sky because they have the money to do so. A lot of people who watch the show simply can't afford Sky and so that's a lot of unhappy people who are no longer able to watch.

He will still be producing the same show and if people enjoy the show that much im sure a lot will follow him to Sky. Im not "gleeful" about the situation, I can just see more benefits for Harry than others seem to.
I can see the benefits for him but no benefits for the show.
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Old 08-03-2010, 19:59
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The 82nd Academy Awards (ABC) – 41.3m (13.1)
* Up 14% in total viewers
* Up 8% with adults 18-49
* Most watched entertainment telecast since 2005 Oscars
* Reached 70m unique viewers
* Oscars Red Carpet show drew 25.1m, largest since 2007
* Last ever Barbara Walters Special had 15m, up 29% and highest since 2002
* At 12.45am Jimmy Kimmel Live had 4.6m, his highest post-Oscars rating ever

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Old 08-03-2010, 19:59
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I don't believe that it's Harry Hill responsible for this propised move. It'll be Avalon, the independent producer company, out to get as much money as they can for their hit.

Avalon were the producers of The Frank Skinner Show which moved from BBC1 to ITV when Avalon demanded (much) more money than the BBC were willing to pay.
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Old 08-03-2010, 20:00
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The Academy Awards 2010 – 41.30m
The Academy Awards 2009 – 36.31m
The Academy Awards 2008 – 32.01m
The Academy Awards 2007 – 40.17m
The Academy Awards 2006 – 38.94m
The Academy Awards 2005 – 42.14m
The Academy Awards 2004 – 43.53m
The Academy Awards 2003 – 33.04m
The Academy Awards 2002 – 41.78m
The Academy Awards 2001 – 42.94m
The Academy Awards 2000 – 46.33m
AVERAGE: 39.86m (ABC)
2010 vs 2000: -11%

The Primetime Emmy Awards 2009 – 13.2m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2008 – 12.2m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2007 – 13.0m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2006 – 16.2m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2005 – 18.7m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2004 – 13.8m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2003 – 17.9m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2002 – 20.0m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2001 – 17.1m
The Primetime Emmy Awards 2000 – 21.8m
AVERAGE: 16.74m (Rotating)
2009 vs 2000: -39%

The Grammy Awards 2010 – 25.80m
The Grammy Awards 2009 – 19.67m
The Grammy Awards 2008 – 17.18m
The Grammy Awards 2007 – 20.06m
The Grammy Awards 2006 – 17.00m
The Grammy Awards 2005 – 18.80m
The Grammy Awards 2004 – 26.29m
The Grammy Awards 2003 – 24.83m
The Grammy Awards 2002 – 18.97m
The Grammy Awards 2001 – 26.65m
The Grammy Awards 2000 – 27.80m
AVERAGE: 22.10m (CBS)
2010 vs 2000: -7%

The Golden Globes 2010 – 16.9m
The Golden Globes 2009 – 14.9m
The Golden Globes 2008 – 6.0m
The Golden Globes 2007 – 20.0m
The Golden Globes 2006 – 18.8m
The Golden Globes 2005 – 16.8m
The Golden Globes 2004 – 26.8m
The Golden Globes 2003 – 20.1m
The Golden Globes 2002 – 23.5m
The Golden Globes 2001 – 22.5m
The Golden Globes 2000 – 22.1m
AVERAGE*: 20.24m (NBC)
* not inc. 2008
2010 vs 2000: -24%

Awards shows seem to be on the up recently. Though no doubt the Academy Awards and the Grammy's have benefitted from some big name nominees (something which the Emmy's certainly have not).
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Old 08-03-2010, 20:27
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Thanks for the analysis, C14E. Excellent for the Oscars, the most watched in 5 years. Funny that it's such an appointment to view event in the States and yet due to the time difference it's tucked away on Sky Movies over here and broadcast during the middle of the night.

Although the good showing could also be ABC's downfall in a sense. With the Oscars trying to reinvent itself at the moment, to some success by the looks of these figures, then ABC's rivals will be circling like a pack of wolves when the rights come up for renewal in a couple of years time.
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