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It's true. Apparently ITV were expecting around 5.5-6.5m for the launch and expected it to be a "grower". (I heard about this on another forum a few mins ago).
Really surprised they had such high expectations as not even XF, BGT or SCD launched with such higher figures! |
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I'll take your word for it but they must have been crazy to expect that. Even Soapstar Superstar struggled to get those figures with a more obvious cast & music range
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Glenn's sort of right. Apparently ITV were expecting around 5.5-6.5m for the launch and expected it to be a "grower". (I heard about this on another forum a few mins ago).
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According to an insider on another forum, they expected 5.5m to 6.5m.
IIRC (and I probably don't) msot people on this thread were predicting a flop.Maybe if they'd put the programme on on Saturday against SYTYCD, they'd have got it. Of course, they probably came up with these figures before they found out the BBC were putting Silent Witness on the other side. |
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BBC1's budget is much smaller than ITV1's is, even after the budget cuts.
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I can't see Popstar to Operastar being re commissioned. ITV was expecting 8 million viewers for this and has less than half. Possibly opera and ITV aren't a good match. This could have worked better on the BBC as the audience is a bit more demanding.
Hell's Kitchen isn't that cheap. The host will probably want a million for presenting it, the B list celebs fees will come to two million and you can add an extra three million for production and promotional costs. Also ratings had fallen to 4 million and, as the show can't be repeated and DVD interest would be very minimal( same as most reality shows), I can see ITV's reason for ditching it. , it doesnt attract youngsters because they would not go within a mile of Opera and it isnt going to attract Opera buffs because its too lightweight. And it had tough opposition in Silent Witness. If it did have any chance the Beeb have done their bit to bury it along with its rather peculiar mixed theme.
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Of course, they probably came up with these figures before they found out the BBC were putting Silent Witness on the other side.
Popstar to operastar actually cost around 2 and half mill to make for 6 episodes. Doi[ costs about 6.5m -7m for 12 weeks] gets double the viewers and the cost also includes a seperate result show.pto also has zero repeat value. Popstar to operstar has a bigger budget than the beebs sytcd.So you think you can dance has the same budget as Graham Nortons eurovision show from last year.Even though that was only 5 weeks long and sytcyd lasted 7weeks. |
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I doubt they were expecting 8m viewers, 6m still seems to be the benchmark for a good performance so I'd say they were hoping to be closer to this than 3m.
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BBC1's budget is much smaller than ITV1's is, even after the budget cuts.
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I doubt they were expecting 8m viewers, 6m still seems to be the benchmark for a good performance so I'd say they were hoping to be closer to this than 3m.
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Glenn's sort of right. Apparently ITV were expecting around 5.5-6.5m for the launch and expected it to be a "grower". (I heard about this on another forum a few mins ago).
Really surprised they had such high expectations as not even XF, BGT or SCD launched with such high figures! As for Hell's Kitchen, I think it was reaching the end of its reality shelf life and ratings were down to 3 million at times. However, ITV could sit back and say it's made a lot of money for them in American rights even if the repeat and DVD potential is non existent. |
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BBC1's budget is much smaller than ITV1's is, even after the budget cuts.
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Figures for comparison?
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Since when was BBC 1 summer entertainment budget smaller than ITVs
![]() BBC1 - £1.1 billion ITV1 - £750 million C4 - ~£525 million (I think this number is for all channels) C5 - ~£165 million Source: Media Guardian (1, 2, 3) So BBC1's budget is bigger. Last edited by D.M.N. : 14-02-2010 at 15:51. Reason: adding Channel 4 and Five's budget |
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Having just checked, the respective budgets (as of June 2009) are:
BBC1 - £1.1 billion ITV1 - £750 million Source: Media Guardian So BBC1's budget is bigger. |
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IIRC a lot of the cost of was associated with the venue and the support staff which shouldnt be an issue with a studio based series such as PTOS. If it fills an Ofcom quota re arts, so much the better from an ITV perspective
The restraunt used in the last series was about half the size of the original one used in series one. Why ofcom persist in making them have an arts quota is beyond me
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Saturday 13rd February Overnights
BBC One 18:45- Total Wipeout: 5.03m (22.4%) 19:45- So You Think You Can Dance? Final: 5.31m (22.1%) 21:25- Casualty: 6.19m (26.6%) ITV1 19:30- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.74m (20.5%) 21:00- All Star Mr & Mrs: 4.64m (19.2%) Thanks to MattJ Those were the Top 5 programmes yesterday. Looks like ITV1's figures were hit, with TV Burp down by around 2m compared to the previous week. I thought that would happen due to the poor football post-match lead in. No word on what Take Me Out got exactly, but it's at least half a million down from last week. Total Wipeout did well for a repeat, and Casualty posted a good figure (should timeshift to 7m+). Alright for the So You Think You Can Dance final. |
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I think total wipeout and tv burp probably share a similar audience
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Sorry guys, I was sure BBC1's budget was 600 and something million.
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Saturday 13rd February Overnights
BBC One 18:45- Total Wipeout: 5.03m (22.4%) 19:45- So You Think You Can Dance? Final: 5.31m (22.1%) 21:25- Casualty: 6.19m (26.6%) ITV1 19:30- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.74m (20.5%) 21:00- All Star Mr & Mrs: 4.64m (19.2%) Thanks to MattJ TV Burp should have a good repeat figure today then. |
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Sorry guys, I was sure BBC1's budget was 600 and something million.
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Not really suprising for TV Burp, as it never does well after football, and as it shares a large audience with Wipeout it rarely does well starting halfway through that either, so with those two factors combined last night, the ratings aren't too surprising.
Total Wipeout actually got more last night than the 3.8m it got when it was originally shown last summer. Not really surprising as because all the episodes are the same nobody seems able to tell the difference between new episodes and repeats. Okay for So You Think You Can Dance, but I thought it would be closer to 6m. It's not often that he final of one of these shows is below the overall series average (5.4m in this case) so the BBC won't be too happy. |
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Sorry guys, I was sure BBC1's budget was 600 and something million.
![]() TW is quite a ratings banker |
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Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony figures anyone?
So You Think You Can Dance has bombed to me, for a Final, that's below what SCD would be getting. They may as well put SCD on twice a year like ABC. |
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SYTYCD should be given another series...it was beginnign to ind its feet but went away too quick....if the ratings are still crap next year axe it
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TW is quite a ratings banker
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Broadcast has posted some demographic breakdowns for Hustle and Law & Order for their 1/2/10 episodes:
Hustle- Total: 5.1m (20%) ABC1s: 2.6m (23%) 16-34s: 1.0m (19%) Law & Order: UK- Total: 5.1m (20%) ABC1s: 2.1m (18%) 16-34s: 0.4m (8%) Hustle's audience would be more lucrative for ITV1. I thought more 16-34s would be watching Law & Order: UK - not a huge number but 0.4m seems quite low! |
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Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony figures anyone?
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So You Think You Can Dance has bombed to me, for a Final, that's below what SCD would be getting. They may as well put SCD on twice a year like ABC.
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IIRC (and I probably don't) msot people on this thread were predicting a flop.
, it doesnt attract youngsters because they would not go within a mile of Opera and it isnt going to attract Opera buffs because its too lightweight. And it had tough opposition in Silent Witness. If it did have any chance the Beeb have done their bit to bury it along with its rather peculiar mixed theme.

