I agree is next weeks new?

I actually think sytcd has been bringing the bbc saturdays down for the last few weeks , I think they'll do better next week with a sytycd free schedule.

ITV1 would have been much better adding in a YBF repeat inbetween the football and TV Burp, that way it wouldn't have started halfway during TW and as seen a few weeks ago the YBF junction seems to work well. Because that's not a good figure for TV Burp at all (compared to the last 2 weeks).

Casualty getting a nice boost for some reason, despite being up against CSI:NY.

SYTYCD has been sinned against and has suffered accordingly. It was never going to be BGT or XF but it has been scheduled at too many different times, never had a springboard of audition shows, and after all, the winner will go off to America and never be heard of again (not that that will matter to many people who never got to know her anyway)

It is dance, but the way the show came across made it feel too dance arty rather than dance mainstream. Im sure it will be recommisioned, it deserves a second go, but there needs to be a major rethink to give it a chance.

The scheduling issue really shouldn't be used to defend SYTYCD when you look at the below as SCD, X Factor and BGT increased week-by-week when they first came on air despite quite a variance in timeslot:

SCD - Series 1, 1st few weeks
- 15/05/2004 - 4.61m - 18:14
- 22/05/2004 - 5.68m - 18:40
- 29/05/2004 - 6.07m - 18:30
- 05/06/2004 - 6.00m - 18:35

X Factor - Series 1 , 1st few weeks
- 04/09/2004 - 5.25m - 19:35
- 11/09/2004 - 6.53m - 18:55
- 18/09/2004 - 7.08m - 19:09
- 25/09/2004 - 7.24m - 19:04

BGT - Series 1, first few episodes
- 09/06/2007 - 5.20m - 21:25
- 10/06/2007 - 6.73m - 20:32
- 11/06/2007 - 7.28m - 21:00
- 12/06/2007 - 7.39m - 21:05

Maybe the Casualty/Holby City crossover starting to kick in.Thinking about HH, that is quite a drop, lead in or no lead in.Viewers had seemingly sought out the previous two episodes so its a bit strange-same as SYTYCD had been getting.
As for SYTYCD, solid figures for the final-next year is make or break.

Quiet night across the board. Poor for TV Burp and pretty much mediocre for everything else. SYTYCD will be back next year, the BBC can't go on commissioning a new talent show every year. Saturdays have been very subdued so far this year, such a huge contrast to the end of the year.

Cant argue with the facts, but SYTYCD needed all the help it could get-its never going to be BGT or XF whose formats always had the potential to pull on a bigger audience.

I agree, there really should be something big on, but there isn't. ITV will have high hopes for Push The Button in a couple of weeks but I don't know enough about the format to judge whether it'll work or not. The spring will be better with Britain's Got Talent, Doctor Who and Over The Rainbow, though.

Saturday 13rd February Overnights
BBC One
13:15 - Six Nations Rugby Union: 3.16m (25.1%)
* peak: 4.57m (33.1%) @ 15:30
16:00 - Six Nations Rugby Union: 3.84m (21.0%)
* peak: 4.54m (22.1%) @ 18:00
18:45 - Total Wipeout: 5.03m (22.4%)
19:45 - So You Think You Can Dance? Final: 5.31m (22.1%)
21:25 - Casualty: 6.19m (26.6%)

ITV1
12:00 - FA Cup: 1.97m (18.0%)
* peak: 2.65m (22.2%) @ 13:45
14:30 - FILM: Field of Dreams: 1.06m (7.8%)
16:30 - Regional News: 1.27m (8.2%)
16:45 - ITV News: 1.47m (9%)
17:00 - FA Cup: 3.94m (19.4%)
19:30 - Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.74m (20.5%)
19:55 - Take Me Out: 4.32m (18.1%)
21:00 - All Star Mr & Mrs: 4.64m (19.2%)
21:55 - Benidorm: 2.81m (13.6%)

Thanks to MattJ

I'm afraid those FA Cup ratings can only be described as quite frankly, embarrasing really.

not a great night for either BBC or ITV1 really

weird fact the first episode of the x factor was beaten by in it to win it in the ratings and it launched on the same night as Parkys first ITV1 show


Back on point I agree with you, i dont the scheduling makes much of a difference, if its a good show viewers will go to it where ever it is.

I think casualty and the tw repeat are the only things that did anything near decent

Lack of big teams really starting to hurt it seems. Why they did not go for Chelsea given they have four choices I dont know. In fact the FA Cup contract they fought so hard for has rather dragged down the entire night for ITV1.

What's bizarre about it? BBC1 went from 7m to 3.7m, so ITV1's figures are quite obviously going to go up, even if only by a paltry 800k.

Smart move by BBC1 to stick on SW repeats and allow Popstar to FlopShow Star to stage a late rally, possibly allowing for its recommission next year...


Can we put this one to bed, please? How can a varied BBC line-up of hip outdoor/rural affairs show, the ever-popular Sunday night institution that is Antiques Roadshow, a popular drama serial and a 9pm mix of acclaimed drama or highbrow documentary be described as a "granny fest" - particularly when it is up against the mushed cabbage line-up of Tanking on Ice (3 hours) and African Heartbeat, custom built for keeping nursing home TV lounge inmates quiet (or asleep) for an entire evening?




Maybe we should call it Harry Hill's TV Slump?


I'd say "criminal".

I expect the FA's sponsors and advertisers will be queueing up at FA HQ to demand the rights are handed back to the Beeb.

I wonder if this means ITV and the FA have suffered the added humiliation (having already seen the FA Cup be surpassed by the Carling Cup) of the first half of a 5th round FA cup tie losing out to a rugby international not even involving a British team? On those figures, it surely must?

They didn't really "fight hard", they just got the chequebook out at the 11th hour and offered the FA whatever the BBC/Sky were prepared to pay plus a bit more.

For the 2nd time in a decade, the FA bigwigs saw the £££££s, but I suspect they won't do a third time when it next comes up for negotiation. The competition is tarnished too much when ITV gets its grubby mitts on it...

Brian Barwick

He has quite the CV

iTVS THE PREMIERSHIP at 7pm

Steve Mclaren as england manager

and then finally he sells the fa cup rights to Itv

Breakdown yesterday between 13:30 and 18:30 - BBC vs ITV. Don't think I need to describe it, as it is rather clear: http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2029/itvvbbc.jpg

ITV failed yesterday in that it had adverts and a break after the FA Cup, delaying TV Burp. BBC1's audience went down to nearly 2m after the Six Nations... had TV Burp actually started at 19:15, the outcome for both channels could have been incredibly different.

Well (and probably for the benefit of all concerned), we can only hope they dont.

30 mins of analaysis is a bit too much for the rugby me thinks.


I very much doubt it, tv burp usually never does that well after football or against total wipeout

The FA Cup should have stayed with the BBC. It's clear ITV aren't as committed and their commitment is proving costly and not a ratings winner.

Viewers had about 15 minutes to turn over after the football. Viewing figures plummet for post-match analysis, as seen with the Six Nations on BBC1 as well, have less post-match analysis and your audience may, just about, sustain itself. Instead of having a lead in of 5/6m, TV Burp found itself 10 minutes behind schedule and with only a lead-in of probably 2m.

Following on from the discussion about how NBC can manage to lose $250m on the winter olympics, it turns out that it was again largely due to management incompetence:


So had NBC bid $1.4bn, they'd have got the games and made money.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/02/14...for-them/41969

And it's not just the big broadcasters losing big money. TNT, a cable channel, recently took a $104m write down on its acquisition of Without A Trace. That's more than E4's entire annual budget. They had originally paid $1.4m an episode ($225m overall) but its ratings weren't strong.

However, NBC's cable sister channel USA has done extremely good business. Before it became as huge as it is now, USA paid $750,000 an episode for NCIS which is now the top programme at 8pm on cable and provides strong lead-ins to original programming at 9pm. Recently, after just 7 episodes airing, USA bought repeat rights for NCIS:LA at $2m an episode.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...Net_Bets_.php?

I posted a few weeks ago the age differences: the average age for the Antiques Roadshow viewer is 62. It gets about 0.4m 16-34s.

Dancing on Ice has over a million more 16-34s watching it. Wild at Heart, although I agree is a yawn-fest, has a younger audience than Lark Rise to Candelford. The nursing homes are probably tuned into BBC1 on Sunday nights, not that it's a bad thing.

2 billion? Billion?

By the way, the two Six Nation match averages yesterday were 3.78m (29% - 14:00 to 15:45) and 4.2m (23.3% - 16:30 to 18:15)

Curiously he had a long and distinguished career at the BBC prior to all of the above. Can anyone spot his mistake?