The Ratings Thread (Part 7)

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Tassium

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Problem with having a live drama aside from a one-off is that you are restricted to having it mostly indoors with not much location shooting and there is no room for error. You couldn't do Doctor Who live due to the amount of CGI used although it would be interesting to see.

Only sitcoms and soaps have really worked with live episodes , The live version of The Quatermass Experiment was good but it could have easily been prerecorded.”

A "haunted house" type episode of Dr Who could work live.

The live element would actually add to it rather than be a bit of a gimmick.

Maybe five live 30min episodes each week night at 7pm. Spooky.

M1010D

13-02-2010

Anyone got the ratings for all four Cleveland Show episodes? Want to see how they are comparing too Family Guy

thanks in advance

RobbieSykes123

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by KennyT:
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ITV1 did well in that chart, didn't it...

Originally Posted by ronant:
“Yep that's right, I started the Christmas Ratings Thread so I kinda got the ball rolling! So this was really part 1 of the ratings thread.

Christmas ratings thread 2006: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...ratings+thread”

Typical - in my first post 23/12/06 I whinged about BBC scheduling and said ITV1 would clean up on Boxing Day.

Who'd have thought it...?

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“A couple of disappointing ratings at 9pm last night. Hardly surprising, though, as the BBC One announcers spent most of the evening warning about Silent Witness being a repeat. ”

What a strange thing to do. I bet many people assumed it was a repeat of last week's or something, forcing the ratings down further.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders Live”

Ah, a different show to "EastEnders" then - two 2010 chart entries?

RobbieSykes123

13-02-2010

Mike Teevee

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“I work for the company that updates their website. We get give the data by TNS/Kantar on Wednesday to put up onto the website.”

I wonder if Mike could post Top 50s by channel and see if anyone notices?

The BBC News and The One Show are so popular now that the BBC1 top 30 is a bit boring... :yawn:

And with audiences pushing 7m, can we now officially call Countryfile one of the nation's biggest TV shows?

RobbieSykes123

13-02-2010

Why do some shows in the BARB Top 30s have "(DUP1)" in front of their names? (eg, "(DUP1) Snooker", "(DUP1) Tonight")

grahamzxy

13-02-2010

I wonder how Opening Ceremony will do for NBC - was quite stunning so hopefully it gets a well deserved figure although it has been on 3 hrs+ so far and torch hasn't arrived yet.

Fudd

13-02-2010

Reagrding Thursday's ratings: 4m is ok for The Bill as long as it can hold that against all opposition. I can't believe BBC1 promoted Silent Witness as a repeat - are they mad?! Coronation Street seems to be stabilising slightly, but really needs to be at the junction, offering a lead in to Emmerdale. EastEnders did well.

Channel 4 was consistent enough throughout the night, and Five but in a solid performance - as someone else said, Robson Greene's figures there almost matching his ITv1 programme! Mock the Week is holding up on BBC2 despite the loss of Frankie. Simon King's Shetland Diaries seems to be doing well too.

iaindb

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by Tassium:
“A "haunted house" type episode of Dr Who could work live.

The live element would actually add to it rather than be a bit of a gimmick.

Maybe five live 30min episodes each week night at 7pm. Spooky.”

Well, if the baddies in Scooby Doo can do convincing live special effects, I'm sure the BBC can.

GeorgeS

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The BBC News and The One Show are so popular now that the BBC1 top 30 is a bit boring... :yawn:”

the shows themselves are even more :yawn: inducing

iaindb

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“the shows themselves are even more :yawn: inducing ”

We all know ITV viewers' little brains can't cope with too much news.

Head to this post to see the evidence:

Originally Posted by rzt:
“And a little bit about the News at Tens:”

mousecat

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“the shows themselves are even more :yawn: inducing ”

And the amount of times GeorgeS complains about the runaway success of the one show.. I don't know, the lady doth protest too much methinks...

GeorgeS

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by mousecat:
“And the amount of times GeorgeS complains about the runaway success of the one show.. ...”

whatever about the content TOS hasnt improved its share % year on year. Itis no closer to beating Emmerdale now than it was one year ago.

TOS was created through market research. They basically surveyed loads of over 50s to find out what they did in the evenings. And Adrian Childes and Christine Bleakley interviewing a rat with someones hand up its backside was the result.

mousecat

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“whatever about the content TOS hasnt improved its share % year on year. Itis no closer to beating Emmerdale now than it was one year ago.

TOS was created through market research. They basically surveyed loads of over 50s to find out what they did in the evenings. And Adrian Childes and Christine Bleakley interviewing a rat with someones hand up its backside was the result.”

oo you really hate its success don't you! If it was on ITV you would be singing its praises! And I think 1.5m up on last year is a massive achievement against a soap... shame the Bill couldn't get its viewing figures

GeorgeS

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by mousecat:
“oo you really hate its success don't you! If it was on ITV you would be singing its praises! And I think 1.5m up on last year is a massive achievement against a soap... shame the Bill couldn't get its viewing figures”

I couldnt care less about its "success" or lack thereof but your attempts to mislead with numbers are not to be encouraged.

The Bill is irrelevant to the discussion. It is scheduled at 9pm Thursdays. How does that impact the performance of BBC1 at 7pm Monday to Friday?

Share % is the only true number to measure performance year on year. Picking random numbers is statistical illiteracy or game playing.

garyessex

13-02-2010

TOS is doing fine. Shows don't usually do well against the Big 3 and i think TOS probably is the most successul at beating down the dominant soap figures.

mousecat

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I couldnt care less about its "success" or lack thereof but your attempts to mislead with numbers are not to be encouraged.

The Bill is irrelevant to the discussion. It is scheduled at 9pm Thursdays. How does that impact the performance of BBC1 at 7pm Monday to Friday?

Share % is the only true number to measure performance year on year. Picking random numbers is statistical illiteracy or game playing.”

Well I will leave you to your numbers then... viewers in millions impresses me more..
and your negativity towards some programmes content (not just TOS) on this thread compels me to do likewise re the Bill. There are forums for the merits of the programmes themselves, I come here to look at ratings discussions.

Connor Williams

13-02-2010

Share really isn't. Share can rise or fall depending on the competition. The One Show is targeted at Old Fogies, but 4News is targeted at business men - 4News may rise in numbers of business men lowering the one show's share but more old fogies could be watching the one show.

mousecat

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by Connor Williams:
“Share really isn't. Share can rise or fall depending on the competition. The One Show is targeted at Old Fogies, but 4News is targeted at business men - 4News may rise in numbers of business men lowering the one show's share but more old fogies could be watching the one show.”

Sorry, but where is the evidence that TOS is targeted at "old fogies" or targeted AT ALL? Surely if old fogies are about they are watching Emmerdale? Without wishing to heap undue praise on TOS, as a 44 year old who dips into it now and again, its light and frothy entertainment quite honestly. I feel like an old fogey now.

D.M.N.

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Share % is the only true number to measure performance year on year. Picking random numbers is statistical illiteracy or game playing.”

Let's hope The One Show moves to 6am then where it could have double the share...

GeorgeS

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by mousecat:
“Sorry, but where is the evidence that TOS is targeted at "old fogies" or targeted AT ALL? ”

its profile is the same as SYTYCD isn't it? 50% over 55; big numbers over 75, etc.

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“Share really isn't. Share can rise or fall depending on the competition”

It is always Emmerdale, Ch4 News, Live From Studio 5. Only the BBC2 option differs from time to time

newkid30

13-02-2010

Ooohh getting heated in here

Does anyone know the demographics for TOS and Emmerdale out of curiosity?
Watching the Winter Olympics opening, looks good so far

Think it should get V high ratings Stateside.

GeorgeS

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by newkid30:
“Watching the Winter Olympics opening, looks good so far
Think it should get V high ratings Stateside.”

not enough to stop NBC loosing $200m on it though as Conan remarked!

newkid30

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“not enough to stop NBC loosing $200m on it though as Conan remarked!”

OMG

Scary!! Thanks for info, heard there was a lot of anger about the costs Stateside alright, but $200m ouch!

Pizzatheaction

13-02-2010

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I'm certain that's got something to do with the fact that all the latter programmes are self-contained episodes, so if there's nothing else on you can switch it on and know you're getting the whole thing in one night, whereas the former are all two parters at the least, so people have to make some sort of commitment.

I've said this before but since the thread's gone into another part I'll say it again, but back in the nineties, William Phillips, Broadcast's brilliant ratings analyst, pointed out that drama series repeats didn't work, because ITV would sometimes repeat series of London's Burning or Soldier Soldier and they didn't do very well - I remember one repeat run of Soldier Soldier, at the height of Robson and Jerome mania, being abandoned halfway through because it was dying. Something like that isn't worth repeating, really. They even used to repeat Casualty in between series, back when there were rather fewer episodes.

I remember ITV repeating Moll Flanders, which had been a huge hit, at 9pm in 1998, but after two episodes they dumped it to 11pm and stuck Alright on the Night repeats on instead. But really, if you weren't bothered enough with that kind of show to watch it the first time, why would you be any more interested eighteen months later? And unlike something like Morse, where even if you know the killer you can enjoy spotting the clues, with something like London's Burning once you've seen it, you don't need to see it again.”

I agree. I think that's why sitcom repeats work so well. Viewers might remember the plots, but at least there are (usually!) jokes and sub-plots along the way, to keep people entertained on repeat screenings.

rzt

13-02-2010

Friday 12th January: Soap Overnights
13:45- Doctors: 1.78m (22.3%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.52m (9.2%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.13m (5.8%)
18:30- Home and Away (Fiver): 644k (3.1%)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.18m (5.7%)
19:00- Hollyoaks (E4): 449k (2.1%)
19:00- Neighbours (Fiver): 196k (0.9%)

19:00- Emmerdale: 7.96m (36.6%)
19:30- Coronation Street: 10.01m (42.4%)
* likely to be 19:35-20:00
20:00- EastEnders: 9.69m (39%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 9.67m (38%)
* likely to be 20:30-20:55
22:00- EastEnders (BBC3): 821k (3.9%)
22:55- Coronation Street (ITV2): 189k (1.3%)
23:25- Coronation Street (ITV2): 220k (2.1%)

Source: DS
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All three of the primetime soaps up from last Friday in terms of viewers and %.

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