I think its roughly in-line with what it had last season. Looking on BARB it had around 300-450k in the officials last year. 0.3m overnights for NCIS and True Blood would generally be the week's highest rating shows for the FX channel.

Given the resources BBC One has in creative and sheer financial terms compared to E4 and even ITV1 when it comes to comedy, your argument is baseless.

'Outnumbered' is a rare example of a good sitcom, but even that hasn't set the ratings alight. And Survivors seriously, my Gran watches it and it's terrible.

E4 meanwhile has attracted over 1m for 'The Inbetweeners' and 'Skins'. 'Harry Hill's TV Burp' and 'The X Factor' on ITV1.

The only mainstream success stories with younger viewers on the Beeb is EastEnders (25 years old) and DoctorWho (nearly 50 years old).

The corporation has certainly lacked with younger viewers in recent years with the demise of a weekly chart show, CBBC and good original ideas, though it has triumphed on Sunday nights with older viewers.

My argument isnt baseless, actually it was just a reply to your question. You asked when was the last time the BBC made a half-decent sitcom? My answer is Outnumbered beause its superb and has won a load of awards. It also got 6 million viewers last time it was on.

I found Survivors enjoyable, if you didnt then fine thats your opinion. Im also glad your Gran watches it aswell, it must have a broad specturm of viewers. The BBC catering for all ages as it should.

Your question was about sitcoms so why are you mentioning Skins which is a drama, TV Burp and X Factor? Admittedly The Inbetweeners is a fine sitcom.

The thing I dont understand is why you are so bothered about the BBC making shows specifically for younger viewers. If you want programmes for younger viewers watch BBC3, you cant judge the BBC's programming for younger viewers by just looking at BBC1 and ignoring the actual channel that is designed purely for that demographic. It has plenty of shows that get a high amount of younger viewers anyway. The BBC's remit is to provide programming for all ages, which it does. I have already mentioned a load of show that are watched a younger audience and probably pull in more younger viewers than the shows on E4.

Survivors S2 has been some what of a let down.

BBC 3 should be looking to cater to young people with an IQ of more than 2, which is the average IQ of those who watch X-Factor.

Cant criticise E4, for the likes of Skins & The Inbetweeners, but other than those its nothing but repeats of US shows.

Solid ratings for The Mentalist and Mastercrafts, the former was slightly down from last week but it seems to be perform similar to what it got last year, wouldn't be surprised if it beats Michael Winner next week.

Highland Emergency did well too, I remember it was getting 1m at 7.30pm last year.

BBC3 caters for the younger audience very well in my opinion. Its just that some people, mainly those that are the totally different demographic to what the channel is attracting, argue that its full of rubbish. I dare say if you asked what most under 30s thought of BBC4 programming there wouldn't be much praise.

Not all young people want to watch "Hotter Than My Daughter" believe it or not. There is the odd gem on BBC3 but a helluva lot of pap in between.

People here want BBC 3 to be E4... Why? BBC 3 is meant to cater for an audience which don't seem to be catered anywhere else.

A bit of early scheduling news for you - for one, I didn't think that BBC think this far into the future.

I had wondered if Digiguide would correct this, but C4 seems to be making a mistake with the Simpsons


C4 has yet to show S17, yet alone S18

im sure the episode is S16 ep 18, but so far either C4 or Digiguide has yet to notice the mistake.

Sunday 28.2.2010

BBC ONE

League Cup Final 5m / 30.2% peaked 7.1m
Countryfile 6.2m / 22.4%
Antiques 6.8m / 25.6%
Lark Rise 6.2m / 22.4%
Seven Ages 4.4m / 16.5%

BBC TWO
Winter Olympics 2m / 8.4%

ITV1
Dancing On Ice 8.2m / 30.8%
Wild At Heart 7m / 25.7%
Dancing On Ice Results 7.5m / 28.6%

Thanks dubsj.

Very solid figure for the League Cup Final considering it had an hour build-up. Very strong peak as well.

ITV bounced back in primetime after a poorer Sunday last week, but BBC1 held up well as always.

Disappointing for the Winter Olympics... was hoping for ~3m.

It surprising that DOI's ratings are lower now than they were when got to dance was on sky 1, I was expecting a boost for DOI when it finished.

Is the Dancing on Ice final 7-9pm as it's been for the last couple of years, or with all shows being 10-20% longer this year, are they dragging it out more than usual?


Deserves it.


There plan of quality over quantity clearly pays off though - and balances the books. And for every Friends repeat on E4, BBC3 have been just as bad over the years with reruns of Two Pints and now it seems to be Family Guy.

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Tell me, when does BBC1 ever offer any younger programming? Never is the answer, because the corporation can't, hence the train wreck that is BBC3. E4 should tutor bosses really...

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Hustle-

16-34s: 1.0m (19%)

Law & Order: UK-

16-34s: 0.4m (8%)


see also The Apprentice, top gear,Live at the Apollo, , , Eastenders, Doctor Who, Torchwood, Spooks, Ashes to Ashes,waking the dead, friday night with JR,Michael Mcintyres comedy roadshow.

See also the bbc i player, who do you think uses it, grannys

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BBC ONE had more 16-34s than ITV1 last year

Sort out the quoting in the above two posts please. It should look


And read...

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Removing the two stars in the above line.

Not too hard... is it? Also, some of the posts are coming close to unreadable with little meaning. There's a reason there's a 'Quote' and 'Multiple Quote' button...

get a life

I see I've missed a lot of excellent discussion over the last few days Nobody on the internet discussing ratings should tell anyone to get a life (unless ironically)!


Anyone (with a life or without) know what the League Cup got on Sky Sports?

I wasn't saying that ITV was better at it, simply that apart from Doctor Who BBC One or Tbree has not found a hit exclusive with younger viewers - the 16-24 bracket must be very low indeed, and Wednesday and Thursday are crying out for some younger investment

Sorry DNM I cant edit it anymore

Being Human bowed out to 1m (3.9%) for BBC Three last night

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...1-million.html

I think the BBC strategy is quite wrong. What it should do is put all drama on BBC One; Young Adult Drama a 8pm, Adult Drama at 9pm and critically acclaimed drama at 10pm, so:

07:00 Click/Tinny and Susana/Top Gear/Watchdog/Panorama
07:30 Eastenders
08:00 Doctor Who
09:00 Torchwood
10:00 Being Human
11:00 News
11:30 Question Time etc...

Then all documentaries get put on BBC Two and all lifestyle/reailty on BBC Three or a 24hr CBBC.

I can see that primetime schedule style being more popular with the public as well. The BBC could aim for 4m/6m mark for all drama before 10pm and 1m/2m for 10pm dramas.

I'm sure Waterloo Road must do exceptionally well in the 4-16 and 16-24 bracket - that airs on Wednesday 8pm. It has 20 episodes a year too. There was talk of it going year round at one point.

TB2 was up slightly with just over 300,000 on the overnights. This means it will get at least 500,000 consolidated. Last seasons EP1 got 885,000 when it added up all three airings that week. It could be as high as a million this time.

NCIS got half a million on the overnights this Friday.

I couldnt think of anything worse than Drama, after Drama. The BBC has to provide something for everyone, and as BBC One is there biggest showcase, it needs to offer different things. This means showing drama, comedy, light entertainment and wildlife/documentaries.

At the same time you just have to see the ratings dramas are getting recently to see that its harder and harder to engage the public in dramas. Couple of years ago you could put on a drama and it would nearly be a guarenteed hit, thats no longer the case.

Not to mention to be able to fulfill that kind of schedule you suggest the BBC would have to probably increase BBC ones budget to about £1.5/£2 billion. You have to remember the average 9pm drama is coming in at about £600,000, with some marque shows costing up to a million an hour.