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The Ratings Thread (Part 7)
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Charnham
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“nothing at all. it means that a few people who like to tell the world that they had cornflakes for breakfast or have just been to the toilet, have just posted some banal comment about the show.”

those are valued ITV viewers you are talking about.

Im sure some point not to far in the future, ITV will recomission shows not based on ratings, but on how many people twitter about it.
Cent
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Nothing at all. Just means a few people on twitter have mentioned it but some people think if its trending its going to have huge ratings.”

It certainly bodes well for 16-34 viewers.

Twitter told us Take Me Out was doing better in that demo week 1, before we got the ratings.

Tonight's episode will have the highest 16-34 ratings of the series.
GeorgeS
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Im sure some point not to far in the future, ITV will recomission shows not based on ratings, but on how many people twitter about it.”

Twitter is more of a BBC thing http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/...s-social-media
Agent F
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Cent:
“It certainly bodes well for 16-34 viewers.

Twitter told us Take Me Out was doing better in that demo week 1, before we got the ratings.

Tonight's episode will have the highest 16-34 ratings of the series.”

Yep it certainly indicates it's popular with the younger demo which is good news for ITV.
Dancc
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“nothing at all. it means that a few people who like to tell the world that they had cornflakes for breakfast or have just been to the toilet, have just posted some banal comment about the show.”



Too true.
Score
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Yep it certainly indicates it's popular with the younger demo which is good news for ITV.”

It does, and surely a recommission was inevitable based on that alone.

Episode four, which got 4.6m total viewers, got a 24% share of 16-24s, the really difficult viewers to get.
Chris1964
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“nothing at all. it means that a few people who like to tell the world that they had cornflakes for breakfast or have just been to the toilet, have just posted some banal comment about the show.”

Thanks to all for the enlightenment. I guess the reality behind it is contained above.
Georged123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Cent:
“It certainly bodes well for 16-34 viewers.

Twitter told us Take Me Out was doing better in that demo week 1, before we got the ratings.

Tonight's episode will have the highest 16-34 ratings of the series.”

Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Yep it certainly indicates it's popular with the younger demo which is good news for ITV.”

It doesnt take much to know its going to get a lot of the 16-34 audience by the premise of the show. I doubt that there is much audience crossover between Take Me Out and Antiques Roadshow.
Cent
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“It doesnt take much to know its going to get a lot of the 16-34 audience by the premise of the show. I doubt that there is much audience crossover between Take Me Out and Antiques Roadshow.”

Yes, we knew that is who the show was aimed at, but so was So You Think You Can Dance? and its only being held up by its granny audience just now.
Connor Williams
13-02-2010
The Twitter people are a prime target for Advertisers, very open and people who have no sense of privacy... and that includes me.
1 Million maximum for Winter Olympics Ceremony, maybe 750,000?
Also, does anyone have Friends Ratings from last week on E4?
RobbieSykes123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by mousecat:
“And the amount of times GeorgeS complains about the runaway success of the one show.. I don't know, the lady doth protest too much methinks...”

The way GeorgeS regularly posts with authority on the contents and dubious qualities of so many BBC shows, including that Aussie daytime rubbish that got virtually zero viewing figures, he must struggle to find time to watch anything on other channels...

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Share % is the only true number to measure performance year on year.”

Twaddle. Share percentages, as I see it, are generally used to justify underwhelming performances on the bare numbers. "Well, at least it got a 30% share, not to be sniffed at..."

If TOS is getting 4.5m, then starts getting 5m, then 5.5m, then 6m, then pushes 7m at times, then that's significant - even if the share percentages are (we are told) static-ish.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“As expected, TV Burp looks set to start nearer 19:25 than 19:15.”

No doubt that age-old ITV tactic of over-running the start of a BBC1 show as a spoiler. (Which I'm quite sure will be in evidence this Friday night when the 7.36pm Corrie runs over the start of the live EE by a good 2-3 minutes... )

The "TV clips" bit had, though, finished about a minute after the ad break and we were then treated to a bizarre laughter-free "puppet version" of X Factor which seemed to go on for about 10 mins. Not sure what all that was about, but it wasn't an entertainment show taking the piss out of TV clips, which Burp used to be in its heyday.

If they can't come up with enough material to fill the slot, then maybe it's time to move on, or rest the show for a bit.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“3m for the rights and then put it on BBC2. Might as well replace the bubble bath with petrol in the BBCs jacuzzi of cash. ”

Only £3m? Cheap as chips compared to what ITV overpays for its low-rating football packages...


As for tonight, I'm not really watching it but how padded out is SYTYCD tonight? They opened the phone lines after the show had been only 40 mins, and it's been all filler since. Really don't understand that one.

Goodness knows why ITV is repeating the toe-curlingly unfunny "siege" episode of Benidorm tonight. I thought they'd have wanted to keep that one on the shelf and not let it see the light of day again.
C14E
13-02-2010
NBC press release

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MOST-WATCHED OPENING CEREMONY EVER FOR NON-U.S. WINTER OLYMPICS

67.5 Million Viewers Watched Opening Ceremony on NBC; 17 Million More than Torino and Nearly 6 Million More Than Tabloid-Fueled Lillehammer Games in ‘94

32.6 Million Average Audience is 47% Higher than Torino


VANCOUVER -February 13, 2010 – In the half-century of televised Olympics, NBC’s coverage of the Opening Ceremony from Vancouver was the MOST WATCHED EVER for a non-U.S. Winter Olympics with 67.5 million total viewers, 17 million more than Torino in 2006 (50.2 million) and six million more than the tabloid-fueled 1994 Lillehammer Games (61.7 million) which stood for 16 years as the most-watched Opening Ceremony for a non-U.S. Games.

The Opening Ceremony on NBC averaged 32.6 million viewers, more than 10 million more and 47 percent higher than Torino (22.2 million) and earned a 17.3/30 national rating for an increase of 35 percent over Torino in 2006 (12.8/21).

The 32.6 million average viewers is the most for a non-U.S. Winter Olympics Opening Ceremony in 16 years – just below the 33.8 million for the tabloid-fueled Lillehammer Games in 1994. The 17.3/30 national household rating is also the best for a non-U.S. Winter Games since Lillehammer.

The Washington Post said that “the Winter Games got off to a splendiferous start with the Opening Ceremony – with images that rivaled that of ‘Avatar.’ — All of it was rendered splendid by NBC’s HD cameras and enhanced by discreet commentary from the anchors.””

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/02/13...n-torino/41949
GeorgeS
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Twaddle. Share percentages, as I see it, are generally used to justify underwhelming performances on the bare numbers. "Well, at least it got a 30% share, not to be sniffed at..."

If TOS is getting 4.5m, then starts getting 5m, then 5.5m, then 6m, then pushes 7m at times, then that's significant - even if the share percentages are (we are told) static-ish.”

so when from April onwards it gets 5m, then 4m, then 3m, then 2m in August, it will be out with the axe? Here's hoping

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“No doubt that age-old ITV tactic of over-running the start of a BBC1 show as a spoiler. (Which I'm quite sure will be in evidence this Friday night when the 7.36pm Corrie runs over the start of the live EE by a good 2-3 minutes... )”

Its more to do with Ofcom ad rules and stretching the benefit of the per hour minutage to be honest. Denting your little BBC shows dont pay the bills you know

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“Only £3m? Cheap as chips compared to what ITV overpays for its low-rating football packages...”

we will see if Italy vs France or Italy vs Scotland beats any FA games. I very much doubt it.
Dancc
13-02-2010
The average Twitter user is actually 31 years old according to recent research. Contrary to popular belief on this thread, it isn't a particularly youthful brand. In terms of the main players in social networking, it is at least fourth youngest behind MySpace, Bebo and even Facebook.
D.M.N.
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“No doubt that age-old ITV tactic of over-running the start of a BBC1 show as a spoiler. (Which I'm quite sure will be in evidence this Friday night when the 7.36pm Corrie runs over the start of the live EE by a good 2-3 minutes... )”

To be fair to them, they did have to wrap up their FA Cup coverage. Saying that, it should have been advertised as from 17:00 to 19:20... in the same way as SYTYCD should really have been advertised in two parts given that the Lottery was in the middle.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The "TV clips" bit had, though, finished about a minute after the ad break and we were then treated to a bizarre laughter-free "puppet version" of X Factor which seemed to go on for about 10 mins. Not sure what all that was about, but it wasn't an entertainment show taking the piss out of TV clips, which Burp used to be in its heyday.”

3 minutes actually. And this is TV Burp's hey day, in case you don't realise, it is still getting 6m+ without any bumper shows on the end of it.

Well... yet, anyway.
RobbieSykes123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“so when from April onwards it gets 5m, then 4m, then 3m, then 2m in August, it will be out with the axe? Here's hoping ”

With all this global cooling going on, I wouldn't rule out blizzards and 9m viewing figures by August...
Andy23
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Nothing at all. Just means a few people on twitter have mentioned it but some people think if its trending its going to have huge ratings.”

Its like when people try to guess the rating based on how long the thread is on DS

If that was the case though, Big Brother would get 20m viewers!
Andy23
13-02-2010
If they had scheduled FA Cup coverage longer, this thread would be full of comments on how low the post-match analysis bit is in ratings terms and how they should have shortened it

Running late once in a while is hardly a ITV exclusive thing, the BBC do it just as often.
RobbieSykes123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“And this is TV Burp's hey day, in case you don't realise, it is still getting 6m+”

I meant in qualitative terms...
RobbieSykes123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“If they had scheduled FA Cup coverage longer, this thread would be full of comments on how low the post-match analysis bit is in ratings terms”

Sneaky, but makes sense. If they had properly scheduled Burp for 7.30 to allow a proper FA Cup coverage wrap-up, then nobody would have watched ITV1 between 7.10pm and 7.30pm. By misleading people into thinking Burp was on at 7.15, they'll have got people to watch some ITV analysis for once!

Note - BBC News has been brought forward tonight to 10.15pm, Apollo rpt at 10.30pm. Maybe the Daily Mail was on to them...

(EDIT: Or is just an aggressive Beeb schedule change to beat ITV, airing a news bulletin against a 'comedy' repeat? Not very public service is it...)
Dancc
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“With all this global cooling going on, I wouldn't rule out blizzards and 9m viewing figures by August... ”

The amount of content you watch on the BBC and you're a climate change skeptic?

Something ain't right there!
D.M.N.
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Note - BBC News has been brought forward tonight to 10.15pm, Apollo rpt at 10.30pm. Maybe the Daily Mail was on to them...”

That's slightly bizarre. Hmm..
Fudd
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“No doubt that age-old ITV tactic of over-running the start of a BBC1 show as a spoiler. (Which I'm quite sure will be in evidence this Friday night when the 7.36pm Corrie runs over the start of the live EE by a good 2-3 minutes... )”

Though that's nothing like Thursday's EastEnders, which'll run half an hour into Emmerdale.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“The "TV clips" bit had, though, finished about a minute after the ad break and we were then treated to a bizarre laughter-free "puppet version" of X Factor which seemed to go on for about 10 mins. Not sure what all that was about, but it wasn't an entertainment show taking the piss out of TV clips, which Burp used to be in its heyday.”

To be fair, The K Factor was better this week and last - it seemed to take up a lot less time!

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All the soaps performed well last night. Due to the atmosphere of the thread earlier that's allI'm saying on the subject.

NBC will be pleased with those kinds of figures. I guess even brilliant ratings won't offset the amount lost, though?
scizophonic
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Though that's nothing like Thursday's EastEnders, which'll run half an hour into Emmerdale. ”

Ah but Emmerdale used to eat into EE's time slot every Tuesday for weeks on end. I don't think the ITV fan boys are in any position to use that one for mudslinging.
RobbieSykes123
13-02-2010
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“To be fair, The K Factor was better this week and last - it seemed to take up a lot less time!”

It has no place on a show supposedly taking the piss out of the week's TV though, would you agree?

To me it smacks of ITV trying to keep the Cowell-fest in people's minds...
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