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The Ratings Thread (Part 7)
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Charnham
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Yeah, CH used to go out straight after EastEnders. I suppose the ratings were okay, but they weren't anything special. The Bill was very popular in those days, though.

Airport's success brought about a whole host of docusoaps, not least Airline.”

there was also a US version of Airline, another example of the BBC WW hogging all the format and not letting ITV sell any, im sure you will agree.
RobbieSykes123
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Jimmys ran from 1987 to 1994 and fetaured St James Hospital Leeds which I believe is a teaching hospital. It was a very sucessful show in its day. Ask your dad. ”

Successful in the sense that whilst it got soundly thrashed by EastEnders twice every week, it didn't get soundly thrashed quite as heavily as other ITV offerings.

It was the sort of thing my grans both watched avidly. If they weren't out at bingo. I suppose it fulfilled the same sort of 'care for the elderly' role as Tanking on Ice does today.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Saturday 6th March Overnights
BBC One
21:20- Casualty: 5.46m (22.9%)

ITV1
17:00- FA Cup Live: Fulham vs. Tottenham: 3.50m (18.4%)
19:30- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 4.65m (20.0%)
20:00- Ant & Dec's Push the Button: 5.74m (24.4%)
21:00- Piers Morgan's Life Stories: 5.61m (23.6%)”

at the football flop.

A reminder - these were the quarter finals of the FA Cup, until the last year or so the world's most prestigious domestic league knock-out contest. So 3.5m is terrible for a Saturday prime time tie in winter.

There seems little chance of the FA Cup Final beating the League Cup Final now, and the slump will no doubt have the FA's lawyers scrutinising the ITV contract for get out clauses. It must be causing them a real headache with pissed off sponsors and their prime asset sinking into obscurity.

Like it did last time ITV had the rights.

also at Harry Hill's TV Flop!

A real "flopissimo" this week too. The message is loud and clear from viewers - "put the show back how it was Harry, and cut out the crap, or we're not bothering any more".

Pretty poor for Ant & Dec. Nothing to set the world alight there, and remember it is still early March, and not mid-July. Maybe their star is also on the wane like Harry's?

A bit meh for "Piers' Tears" - yes, it got its largest ever audience, but it probably benefited from ITV viewers' "remote control apathy", something only ITV seems to benefit from. For a massively hyped interview with the biggest and most important ego on the planet, it was hardly a massive draw.

Not great for Casualty. But we'll see what the proper ratings show up - Casualty seems to be one show where a large number of its weekly audience seem to record and view later judging by the big timeshifts.
Pizzatheaction
07-03-2010
Can anyone please provide me with a link to the top shows of 2010, so far? I'm not having any luck finding it. Been searching for ten minutes.
Charnham
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Can anyone please provide me with a link to the top shows of 2010, so far? I'm not having any luck finding it. Been searching for ten minutes. ”

there is this

Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Seeing as this is a new thread ill post this again in case it gets lost in the last thread.

Top 30 Programmes of 2010

1 - 12.27m - Doctor Who (01/01/10) - BBC1/HD
2 - 12.09m - EastEnders (01/01/10) - BBC1
3 - 11.83m - Coronation Street (11/01/10) - ITV1
4 - 10.57m - Gavin and Stacey (01/01/10) - BBC1/HD
5 - 9.96m - Emmerdale (14/01/10) - ITV1
6 - 9.64m - Dancing on Ice (10/01/10) - ITV1
7 - 8.81m - Silent Witness (07/01/10) - BBC1/HD
8 - 8.70m - Rock And Chips (24/01/10) - BBC1/HD
9 - 8.55m - Wild at Heart (10/01/10) - ITV1
10 - 7.91m - National Television Awards (20/01/10) - ITV1
11 - 7.90m - Above Suspicion (04/01/10) - ITV1
12 - 7.84m - Total Wipeout Celebrity Special (02/01/10) - BBC1
13 - 7.67m - Lark Rise to Candleford (10/01/10) - BBC1/HD
14 - 7.59m - Casualty (02/01/10) - BBC1
15 - 7.25m - Match Of The Day Live (19/01/10) - BBC1/HD
16 - 7.13m - So You Think You Can Dance (09/01/10) - BBC1
17 - 7.07m - Celebrity Mastermind (06/01/10) - BBC1
17 - 7.07m - Harry Hill's TV Burp (30/01/10) ITV1
19 - 7.06m - Antiques Roadshow (24/1/10) - BBC1/HD
20 - 7.01m - Hustle (04/01/10) - BBC1/HD
21 - 6.97m - BBC News (05/01/10) - BBC1
22 - 6.91m - Country file (24/01/10) - BBC1/HD
23 - 6.88m - The One Show (13/1/10) - BBC1
24 - 6.77m - Holby City (05/01/10) - BBC1
25 - 6.53m - Top Gear (03/01/10) - BBC2/HD
25 - 6.53m - Law and Order: UK (18/01/10) - ITV1
27 - 6.50m - The National Lottery: In It To Win It (09/01/10) - BBC1
28 - 6.49m - A Question Of Sport (8/01/10) - BBC1
29 - 6.35m - Midsomer Murders (27/01/10) - ITV1
30 - 6.33m - Wallender (03/01/10) BBC1/HD

BBC1: 20
ITV1: 9
BBC2: 1”

but its only up to 11/02/2000 so its almost a month out of date. Eastenders would now be No1 after the live episode.
Pizzatheaction
07-03-2010
Ah, thanks anyway, Charnham.
iaindb
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“

at the football flop.

A reminder - these were the quarter finals of the FA Cup, until the last year or so the world's most prestigious domestic league knock-out contest. So 3.5m is terrible for a Saturday prime time tie in winter.

There seems little chance of the FA Cup Final beating the League Cup Final now, and the slump will no doubt have the FA's lawyers scrutinising the ITV contract for get out clauses. It must be causing them a real headache with pissed off sponsors and their prime asset sinking into obscurity.

Like it did last time ITV had the rights. ”

My prediction for the FA Cup is Portsmouth to reach the final, but get wound up by the taxman 48 hours beforehand, so their opponents win the trophy by default and ITV end up with no game for their millions of pounds.

Although a Columbo repeat would probably rate higher, anyway.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“
also at Harry Hill's TV Flop!

A real "flopissimo" this week too. The message is loud and clear from viewers - "put the show back how it was Harry, and cut out the crap, or we're not bothering any more".”

I say Harry is affected by the primetime Sunday night repeat which is another option for viewers. Combined total for the two screenings is about 8m.

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“
Not great for Casualty. But we'll see what the proper ratings show up - Casualty seems to be one show where a large number of its weekly audience seem to record and view later judging by the big timeshifts.”

I wonder if Casualty will beat PMLS in the officials.
GeorgeS
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“and the slump will no doubt have the FA's lawyers scrutinising the ITV contract for get out clauses. It must be causing them a real headache with pissed off sponsors and their prime asset sinking into obscurity.”

utter, utter nonsense. Being 100% FTA this year means that viewership is up on previous years. Anyway with the BBC sports rights cap of £300m per year, the BBC will NEVER EVER EVER be showing FA Cup or England games again!
D.M.N.
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“utter, utter nonsense. Being 100% FTA this year means that viewership is up on previous years. Anyway with the BBC sports rights cap of £300m per year, the BBC will NEVER EVER EVER be showing FA Cup or England games again!”

I suggest you read this comment from known insider 'ariusuk':

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...19&postcount=4

Quote:
“The proposal is actually to restrict spending on sports rights to 8.5% of licence fee, that doesn't include spending on sport production.

Also, it is very unlikely that the current rights obligations amount to 8.5% of the licence fee, so in real terms it may well be an increase in spending on sports rights.”

craig-maclellan
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Do you know if 1 Vs 100 is coming back? And what about Guesstimation?”

1 vs. 100 is in the can and I'm guessing will be given up against BGT in the spring. The NEXT series of In It To Win It has also been filmed at Pacific Quay in the last couple of weeks (they were looking for audience members at Glasgow Uni recently).

And thank the lord, Guesstimation won't be coming back. I don't see why BBC One perseveres with these dreadful lottery formats in the summer when they could easily bring back Jet Set or Winning Lines.
GeorgeS
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“I suggest you read this comment from known insider 'ariusuk':

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...19&postcount=4”

I suggest you read the Conservatives election manifesto (when it is published). The licence fee will be frozen from 2010 onwards

There simply isnt room for a major bid when 3 events alone take up about £150m of the budget (F1, Premiership highlights and 6 Nations Rugby).
Charnham
07-03-2010
agreed Jet Set & Winning Lines are great formats.
RobbieSykes123
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“utter, utter nonsense. Being 100% FTA this year means that viewership is up on previous years. Anyway with the BBC sports rights cap of £300m per year, the BBC will NEVER EVER EVER be showing FA Cup or England games again!”

I think I touched a nerve...
D.M.N.
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I suggest you read the Conservatives election manifesto (when it is published). The licence fee will be frozen from 2010 onwards ”

Well hopefully the Conservatives don't get into power. Middle-class, middle-class, middle-class....

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“There simply isnt room for a major bid when 3 events alone take up about £150m of the budget (F1, Premiership highlights and 6 Nations Rugby).”

The F1 takes up £35m. I presume the other two take up nearly £115m between them, then...

EDIT, from sn_22:

Quote:
“The annual cost of particular multi-year contracts:
Match of the Day - £56m
Formula 1 - £40m
Six Nations - £40m”

= £136m total

In terms of airtime, I'd say F1 is more lucrative than the Six Nations, considering it covers all archive material as well. There again, I would say that...
iaindb
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Successful in the sense that whilst it got soundly thrashed by EastEnders twice every week, it didn't get soundly thrashed quite as heavily as other ITV offerings.

It was the sort of thing my grans both watched avidly. If they weren't out at bingo. I suppose it fulfilled the same sort of 'care for the elderly' role as Tanking on Ice does today.
”

I think Tanking On Ice would be a great idea for a series: 2 teams of celebrities driving a tank on an ice-rink, trying to blast each other to smithereens.

It could be ITV1's answer to Robot Wars.

GeorgeS
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Well hopefully the Conservatives don't get into power. Middle-class, middle-class, middle-class.......”

If Brown stays the electricity will run out so nobody will be watching tv at all

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The F1 takes up £35m. I presume the other two take up nearly £115m between them, then...”

Premiership highlights/ Championship rights are about £70m; 6 Nations £40m.

The BBC wont get the FA deal for less than £50m. So bye bye F1 or 6 Nations. Or maybe Wimbldom or the Olympics...........
Charnham
07-03-2010
the sports cap can be a bad thing for the BBC.

For example the BBC is expected (& rightly so) to bid on sports coverage on the Crown Jewels list, so once its bought a few of, as it should, it leaves a small amount for other sports rights, and a fixed amount is not going to be of help to you in an auction.
RobbieSykes123
07-03-2010
Looks like me and GeorgeS may at last have found common ground in both being Tories - it was only a matter of time before we agreed on something...
GeorgeS
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Looks like me and GeorgeS may at last have found common ground in both being Tories - it was only a matter of time before we agreed on something... ”

I had you down as a Monster Raving Loony
iaindb
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Well hopefully the Conservatives don't get into power. Middle-class, middle-class, middle-class....
”

An opinion poll in the papers today gave the Conservatives a 9% lead and that's still not enough to give them an overall majority. This is due to the first past the post system we use in elections, a system that is vehemently
supported by the Conservatives.

And these idiots want to run the country.


And to bring these comment back on thread, I see Trevor McDonald Meets David Cameron is on ITV1 next Sunday in the same slot that Piers Morgan chats to Gordon Brown was in. We should use this as the tie-break in the event of a hung parliament. Whoever's chat-show gets the most viewers gets to be Prime Minister.

So that's Piers Morgan or Sir Trevor McDonald.

iaindb
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Looks like me and GeorgeS may at last have found common ground in both being Tories - it was only a matter of time before we agreed on something... ”

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I had you down as a Monster Raving Loony ”

Same difference, surely.

RobbieSykes123
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“An opinion poll in the papers today gave the Conservatives a 9% lead and that's still not enough to give them an overall majority. This is due to the first past the post system we use in elections, a system that is vehemently
supported by the Conservatives.

And these idiots want to run the country.


And to bring these comment back on thread, I see Trevor McDonald Meets David Cameron is on ITV1 next Sunday in the same slot that Piers Morgan chats to Gordon Brown was in. We should use this as the tie-break in the event of a hung parliament. Whoever's chat-show gets the most viewers gets to be Prime Minister.

So that's Piers Morgan or Sir Trevor McDonald.

”

If we have PR, then the Lib Dems will hold the balance of power whoever gets most votes.

I suspect Gordon will win the Sunday night chat-show battle - unless Cameron cries and it gets acres of coverage in next weekend's papers.

But it will be the only thing Gordon does win in 2010...
D.M.N.
07-03-2010
Does anyone know what happens ratings wise when you put Michael Winner and Piers Morgan in a room together?

To be determined some time in the future...

Source: The Sunday Times
Brekkie
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by craig-maclellan:
“1 vs. 100 is in the can and I'm guessing will be given up against BGT in the spring. The NEXT series of In It To Win It has also been filmed at Pacific Quay in the last couple of weeks (they were looking for audience members at Glasgow Uni recently).”

Why on earth are they filmed so far in advance nowadays when in the past they were usually filmed the same week, if not day, as the draw themselves? I understand filming them in blocks saves cash, but you'd think they'd film them in the weeks before the new series, not the final weeks of the last series.

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“agreed Jet Set & Winning Lines are great formats.”

Far better than any of the formats that followed, Winning Lines especially. There is nothing innovative about In it to Win It at all.

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“I think Tanking On Ice would be a great idea for a series: 2 teams of celebrities driving a tank on an ice-rink, trying to blast each other to smithereens.

It could be ITV1's answer to Robot Wars.

”

Remember Ice Warriors?

No, thought not.

http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Ice_Warriors
Connor Williams
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“An opinion poll in the papers today gave the Conservatives a 9% lead and that's still not enough to give them an overall majority. This is due to the first past the post system we use in elections, a system that is vehemently
supported by the Conservatives.

And these idiots want to run the country.


And to bring these comment back on thread, I see Trevor McDonald Meets David Cameron is on ITV1 next Sunday in the same slot that Piers Morgan chats to Gordon Brown was in. We should use this as the tie-break in the event of a hung parliament. Whoever's chat-show gets the most viewers gets to be Prime Minister.

So that's Piers Morgan or Sir Trevor McDonald.

”

The Mail gave the conservatives a 2% lead.
Conservatives must surely have something else in the bag, how can they royally screw this up!
Score
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“I suspect Gordon will win the Sunday night chat-show battle - unless Cameron cries and it gets acres of coverage in next weekend's papers.

But it will be the only thing Gordon does win in 2010...”

He might even struggle to win that if Cameron cries. Then he'll end up with nothing, what a pity.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Does anyone know what happens ratings wise when you put Michael Winner and Piers Morgan in a room together?

To be determined some time in the future...

Source: The Sunday Times”

Whilst the ratings will probably be dreadful, I'd far rather watch an interview with Winner, which will at least be amusing, than the dreadful Kym Marsh.
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