I can't wait!!
Guest Judge Revealed Tonight!
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Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“According to The Sun it is
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“According to The Sun it is
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One would hope not as that would mean 3 judges that know nothing about ice dancing and only 2 who do. That can't be right.
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“According to The Sun it is
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“According to The Sun it is
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I wouldn't mind this. It's only a few weeks and better than another washed out popstar trying to be the next Cheryl Cole.
I must say I'd rather another skater be on the panel, this throws it a bit too far towards "performance" judging.
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“I must say I'd rather another skater be on the panel, this throws it a bit too far towards "performance" judging.”
“I must say I'd rather another skater be on the panel, this throws it a bit too far towards "performance" judging.”
yeah thats what I was thinking, theres too many judges now looking at the performance and not enough looking at the skating, I know its only for a few weeks but surely there was another ex-skater who could have come on the panel instead
On balance, I would prefer someone who knows about skating.
But, if we have to have another "performance related" judge then at least Michael Ball is well qualified. He takes many theatre workshops for performance and drama students, has over 25 years' experience in treading the boards, plus about 15 national concert tours under his belt. At least he isn't some pop star with a couple of hit records and very little performing experience.
If you must have another skating judge then you're going to be disappointed. But if you can live with another performance judge for a couple of weeks then I think he'll do OK. He's an articulate speaker and does at least know what he is talking about (even if it's not skating, lol)
But, if we have to have another "performance related" judge then at least Michael Ball is well qualified. He takes many theatre workshops for performance and drama students, has over 25 years' experience in treading the boards, plus about 15 national concert tours under his belt. At least he isn't some pop star with a couple of hit records and very little performing experience.
If you must have another skating judge then you're going to be disappointed. But if you can live with another performance judge for a couple of weeks then I think he'll do OK. He's an articulate speaker and does at least know what he is talking about (even if it's not skating, lol)
Originally Posted by laur_od:
“Think it's one judge this week and one next week isnt it?”
“Think it's one judge this week and one next week isnt it?”
I believe so..........
Originally Posted by Yorkie47:
“On balance, I would prefer someone who knows about skating.
But, if we have to have another "performance related" judge then at least Michael Ball is well qualified. He takes many theatre workshops for performance and drama students, has over 25 years' experience in treading the boards, plus about 15 national concert tours under his belt. At least he isn't some pop star with a couple of hit records and very little performing experience.
If you must have another skating judge then you're going to be disappointed. But if you can live with another performance judge for a couple of weeks then I think he'll do OK. He's an articulate speaker and does at least know what he is talking about (even if it's not skating, lol)”
“On balance, I would prefer someone who knows about skating.
But, if we have to have another "performance related" judge then at least Michael Ball is well qualified. He takes many theatre workshops for performance and drama students, has over 25 years' experience in treading the boards, plus about 15 national concert tours under his belt. At least he isn't some pop star with a couple of hit records and very little performing experience.
If you must have another skating judge then you're going to be disappointed. But if you can live with another performance judge for a couple of weeks then I think he'll do OK. He's an articulate speaker and does at least know what he is talking about (even if it's not skating, lol)”
Apart from having the recent experience to tell Gary how to play a woman, he's much less qualified than Ruthie who actually did the musicals with lots of dancing and did more straight acting too. Marius in Les Mis doesn't dance, neither does Raoul in Phantom unless things went very wrong . He's also got less dancing experience or knowedge than Emma and unlike Emma no experience of doing a similar show as a contestant. The Spice Girls were hardly pop stars with a couple of hit records. They had bigger tours and were more involved in doing relevant things like performing and choreographing modern dance routines, designing videos, selecting dancers and putting songs, choregraphy and costumes together to produce an end product. Emma has been doing interviews since she was a teen and also does live radio so she also has plenty of experience speaking live.
Frankly, I can't see any reason at all for having him. There must have been another decent successful British skater who could speak, someone known from overseas, perhaps a judge off a similar show here or overseas who could mark ? There would be problems with previous winners as many seem to know some of this year's contestants, but surely there must have been someone who could skate or dance or a past pro to fill the place?
Originally Posted by davedub:
“suzanne shaw ??”
“suzanne shaw ??”
Knows Hayley
Kyran tweets to some of them but not others.
Bonnie is back in USA?
Originally Posted by Taz93:
“What a disappointment.
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“What a disappointment.
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^^, Rubbish!. I wanted someone who could judge the skating aspect. UGH!
Originally Posted by RuthStar:
“^^, Rubbish!. I wanted someone who could judge the skating aspect. UGH!”
“^^, Rubbish!. I wanted someone who could judge the skating aspect. UGH!”
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Apart from having the recent experience to tell Gary how to play a woman, he's much less qualified than Ruthie who actually did the musicals with lots of dancing and did more straight acting too. Marius in Les Mis doesn't dance, neither does Raoul in Phantom unless things went very wrong . He's also got less dancing experience or knowedge than Emma and unlike Emma no experience of doing a similar show as a contestant. The Spice Girls were hardly pop stars with a couple of hit records. They had bigger tours and were more involved in doing relevant things like performing and choreographing modern dance routines, designing videos, selecting dancers and putting songs, choregraphy and costumes together to produce an end product. Emma has been doing interviews since she was a teen and also does live radio so she also has plenty of experience speaking live.
Frankly, I can't see any reason at all for having him. There must have been another decent successful British skater who could speak, someone known from overseas, perhaps a judge off a similar show here or overseas who could mark ? There would be problems with previous winners as many seem to know some of this year's contestants, but surely there must have been someone who could skate or dance or a past pro to fill the place?”
“Apart from having the recent experience to tell Gary how to play a woman, he's much less qualified than Ruthie who actually did the musicals with lots of dancing and did more straight acting too. Marius in Les Mis doesn't dance, neither does Raoul in Phantom unless things went very wrong . He's also got less dancing experience or knowedge than Emma and unlike Emma no experience of doing a similar show as a contestant. The Spice Girls were hardly pop stars with a couple of hit records. They had bigger tours and were more involved in doing relevant things like performing and choreographing modern dance routines, designing videos, selecting dancers and putting songs, choregraphy and costumes together to produce an end product. Emma has been doing interviews since she was a teen and also does live radio so she also has plenty of experience speaking live.
Frankly, I can't see any reason at all for having him. There must have been another decent successful British skater who could speak, someone known from overseas, perhaps a judge off a similar show here or overseas who could mark ? There would be problems with previous winners as many seem to know some of this year's contestants, but surely there must have been someone who could skate or dance or a past pro to fill the place?”
Just a minute, when have I criticised Emma or the Spice Girls? I was talking about what COULD have happened when they got a guest judge. I meant it COULD have been some minor pop singer who's had a hit record and never had to hold an audience for a couple of hours. I have no problem whatsoever in accepting Emma as a performance related judge. I think she's doing fine.
And Michael hasn't done just Les Mis and Phantom. He has also done Pirates of Penzance, Woman in White, Passion, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Aspects of Love and Hairspray (and others). He is not a dancer but he is a bona fide performer. Listen, I would prefer someone who is a skater too. But, if we have to have another performance judge then you could do a lot worse.
Originally Posted by number six:
“After all the hype I at least expected someone a bit more "Celeb" than Michael Ball! :yawn:”
“After all the hype I at least expected someone a bit more "Celeb" than Michael Ball! :yawn:”
I had already said on here yesterday in a different topic, that it is Michael Ball.... because my sister went to the BBC TV Centre on Wednesday night to watch a recording of The Michael Ball Show, (a pilot for a possible new series) and he said he was going to be the guest judge on Dancing On Ice this Sunday as Robin Cousins is away at the Winter Olympics.... he also said he was doing the Friday show and was taking Cathy McGowan to the show on Sunday night!
I don't think he was very good in the 'practice' Colleen gave him at being a judge tonight to be honest, but he'll probably be OK on Sunday once he's heard what the others have to say first!!
Originally Posted by laur_od:
“Think it's one judge this week and one next week isnt it?”
“Think it's one judge this week and one next week isnt it?”
My sister said Michael told the audience on Weds night at the BBC recording of the pilot show, that he was told if he's OK at 'judging' this week, he will get to do next week as well... so we may have him for both Sundays!
What is Michael Ball juddging, pie eating capabilities, singing, hiding homosexual tendencies?
Madness.
All the flack Alesha got on Strictly and soon they will have no one on the panel who knows about ice skating!
Madness.
All the flack Alesha got on Strictly and soon they will have no one on the panel who knows about ice skating!
It's only for two weeks !!!! Shame things have to end up resorting to personal insults by some.
That was Brian Conley down at the London Production of Hairspray.
Caractacus Potts did dance in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Edna Turnblad does in Hairspray. Ok not as much experience on the dance side of things, but I wouldn't say less qualified. Michael has lots of experience in a variety of genre's within the industry. Performance wise he knows what it is like to be out of your comfort zone. I recall him as a judge on Soapstar Superstar where he was fair but not afraid to say what he thought.
I don't think that matters at all really. You don't have to have been through the experience to appreciate what the contestents are trying to do. People at home haven't either.
And Emma is on the panel already to cover those aspects.
Michael he has presented many live broadcasting shows both on tv and radio and since April '08 has presented his own radio 2 show. So he too has plenty of experience speaking live.
Despite the blurb of course Michael isn't replacing Robin how could he? Robin brings with him a wealth of skating knowledge and experience. If we were talking about a permanant judge then I would rather have a judge with skating knowledge but for two weeks I don't think it will be to detrimental not to have one. Afterall we still have Karen and Nicky on the panel for that (and not forgetting Jayne and Chris on hand for extra input). I think Michael's strength here will be in seeing how well the couples interpret and connect with their piece of music, the audience and each other.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Apart from having the recent experience to tell Gary how to play a woman,”
“Apart from having the recent experience to tell Gary how to play a woman,”
That was Brian Conley down at the London Production of Hairspray.
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“ he's much less qualified than Ruthie who actually did the musicals with lots of dancing and did more straight acting too. Marius in Les Mis doesn't dance, neither does Raoul in Phantom unless things went very wrong .”
“ he's much less qualified than Ruthie who actually did the musicals with lots of dancing and did more straight acting too. Marius in Les Mis doesn't dance, neither does Raoul in Phantom unless things went very wrong .”
Caractacus Potts did dance in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang and Edna Turnblad does in Hairspray. Ok not as much experience on the dance side of things, but I wouldn't say less qualified. Michael has lots of experience in a variety of genre's within the industry. Performance wise he knows what it is like to be out of your comfort zone. I recall him as a judge on Soapstar Superstar where he was fair but not afraid to say what he thought.
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“ and unlike Emma no experience of doing a similar show as a contestant.”
“ and unlike Emma no experience of doing a similar show as a contestant.”
I don't think that matters at all really. You don't have to have been through the experience to appreciate what the contestents are trying to do. People at home haven't either.
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“ The Spice Girls were hardly pop stars with a couple of hit records. They had bigger tours and were more involved in doing relevant things like performing and choreographing modern dance routines, designing videos, selecting dancers and putting songs, choregraphy and costumes together to produce an end product.”
“ The Spice Girls were hardly pop stars with a couple of hit records. They had bigger tours and were more involved in doing relevant things like performing and choreographing modern dance routines, designing videos, selecting dancers and putting songs, choregraphy and costumes together to produce an end product.”
And Emma is on the panel already to cover those aspects.
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“Emma has been doing interviews since she was a teen and also does live radio so she also has plenty of experience speaking live.”
“Emma has been doing interviews since she was a teen and also does live radio so she also has plenty of experience speaking live.”
Michael he has presented many live broadcasting shows both on tv and radio and since April '08 has presented his own radio 2 show. So he too has plenty of experience speaking live.
Despite the blurb of course Michael isn't replacing Robin how could he? Robin brings with him a wealth of skating knowledge and experience. If we were talking about a permanant judge then I would rather have a judge with skating knowledge but for two weeks I don't think it will be to detrimental not to have one. Afterall we still have Karen and Nicky on the panel for that (and not forgetting Jayne and Chris on hand for extra input). I think Michael's strength here will be in seeing how well the couples interpret and connect with their piece of music, the audience and each other.
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