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I feel sorry for Danny!
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MrsRobinson
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“I thought it should have been Sharron in the s-o.

Maybe it's Frankie's attitude people don't like?”

And Danny's attitude as well... to me he comes over as a cocky Cockney lad, especially when he answers back to Jason... and I think Danny thinks he is better than he really is... but having said that, I believe it's harder for a male celebrity to skate, than a female like Hayley, who is led by her partner, whereas Danny has to do the 'leading and lifting' and it can't be easy unless you've been doing it for quite a while!!
Eejit
14-02-2010
I'm not much of a Danny fan (Kieron is much much much more fun to watch), but on the other hand, he does seem to suffer a little bit unfairly compared to Emily or Gary, both of whom I would view as having a lot less going for them than he does. They seem to have a core vote each week, regardless of the routine, whereas Danny doesn't. He's really not bad.
lulu g
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by norbitonite:
“I also think that:

Kieron skated better tonight
Mikey has more personality
Frankie is very 'Marmite', and some people vote based on the pro, not just the celeb.”

Do they really?
norbitonite
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Do they really?”

Erm, yes
Tiger Rose
14-02-2010
I don't think Frankie is costing him votes.

He is probably the weakest boy left now though. He is a good skater but the others are better & Kieron & Mikey are better performers & have bigger personalities.

I quite like him but he isn't my favourite & haven't felt compelled to vote for him. I suspect he & Gary are getting similar percentage of votes but Gary has been more protected from another skate off by his higher position on the judges leaderboard (especially tonight).
number six
14-02-2010
I think Danny is a better performer than Gary, at least Danny goes out and injects his personality into the routine, whereas Gary is boring and there doesn't seem to be that much difference in any of the routines he has done so far, I actually agreed with Jason tonight as I find myself watching Maria more than Gary!
davedub
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“I thought it should have been Sharron in the s-o.

Maybe it's Frankie's attitude people don't like?”

Yeh I dont think she's doing danny any favours this year
CombatHamster
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by *Sparkle*:
“His main problem is being one of several similar-ish men, but they all have more going for them in other ways. They are better skaters, or more charismatic or better looking. When he cracks jokes it comes across as slightly cocky, and I do agree that Frankie's attitude doesn't help him.”

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. He also gets given bad positions in the show most weeks.

I felt a bit sorry for him tonight too. If he was cocky to start with I doubt he will be by now (Frankie on the other hand...)
memmh
14-02-2010
Originally Posted by Smithy1204:
“I think the public seem to be voting for people they like, rather than the best skater. It's easy to do it when everyone's a very similar ability, but I think this series sometimes (I can't really remember what the other series were like?) I've noticed it personally a lot, with people like Emily, Hilary (until now), and Sharron (although saying that, she has improved a lot) being voted in over people like Gary, Kieron and Danny, possibly because Gary especially comes across as just 'nice', with nothing hugely outstanding in some of his performances, and I don't know about Danny. I don't think he's amazing, but I think he's trying, he seems less arrogant lately, and I think there are people who deserve to be in the skate-off more than him.

But hmm, I don't know. The people I think deserve to be in the skate-off more have definitely improved, so maybe that's why they're being voted in.”

I didn't see series 1 so I can't speak about that but in general on DOI, the people without fan bases are voted off early in the series. Either because they aren't known, like Natalie Pinkham in series 3, or because the viewers didn't warm to them, like Jeremy Edwards and Gemma Bissix in series 4.

Then the weaker contestants are gradually eliminated - although perhaps not in an order that everyone would agree with. The finalists are usually among the best, or most improved, skaters.

(In series 2, Clare and Kyran were the best and they were the final two. In series 3, Chris and Suzanne were the best and they were the final two. Gareth and Zaraah were also very good and they were the other two semi-finalists, with Zaraah making it to the final. In series 4, the best were Donal, Jessica, Ray and Zoe and three of those four made it to the final.)

This is very much in general, though. Obviously, there's always exceptions to the rule but so far that's approximately what seems to have happened each year.
Daisy19
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“Maybe it's Frankie's attitude people don't like?”

I certainly don't, wish she'd just be quiet. He is much better than Sharron and Emily so he shouldn't go next (if he does though is another matter )
Seymour
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by number six:
“I think Danny is a better performer than Gary, at least Danny goes out and injects his personality into the routine, whereas Gary is boring and there doesn't seem to be that much difference in any of the routines he has done so far, I actually agreed with Jason tonight as I find myself watching Maria more than Gary!”


Yep I agree, if Danny and Gary could change partners I would say Danny would be top end of the leader board. Gary is a nice looking guy but I find him totally bland. Frankie is a bit of a loose cannon and doing Danny no favours.
soapgirlhere
15-02-2010
I really like Danny, he seems like a sweet guy and to my non-trained eye, his skating looks good and I don't feel like he's about to fall over all the time. I think the thing is though is that he rarely skates at the end of the show and never does anything hugely memorable.
soapgirlhere
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by Daisy19:
“I certainly don't, wish she'd just be quiet. He is much better than Sharron and Emily so he shouldn't go next (if he does though is another matter )”

Much more likeable as well, in my opinion.
bornfree
15-02-2010
I get the impression that Emily thought she was going to better than the others as she is the youngest. Danny never displayed that attitude he is disliked. She forgets that although she is very pretty, she is rather podgy and very untoned. The older celebs are fitter and healthier and it shows. It was lovely to seeing Danny hug the doctor and with sincerety. He is a cheeky chappie and has lots of personality. It is rather unfortunate that people don't get him. For some reason Jason really does not like him.
foxy23
15-02-2010
None of the lads will EVA be as good as Ray Quinn! He had the lot!
lulu g
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by foxy23:
“None of the lads will EVA be as good as Ray Quinn! He had the lot!”

Nor any of the women.
Eviesmum
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“I get the impression that Emily thought she was going to better than the others as she is the youngest. Danny never displayed that attitude he is disliked. She forgets that although she is very pretty, she is rather podgy and very untoned. The older celebs are fitter and healthier and it shows. It was lovely to seeing Danny hug the doctor and with sincerety. He is a cheeky chappie and has lots of personality. It is rather unfortunate that people don't get him. For some reason Jason really does not like him.”

I actually think that she's going through because of Fred. She is on borrowed time now the doc has gone I think.

As for Danny, I agree, he seems like a nice enough lad, skates really well, I also agree with Frankie about the technical aspects of his routine not being scored on. I felt he was undermarked.

Having said that I didn't vote for him so I can' really complain if he's in the bottom 2, I felt it should have been Emily, but that is because I love her so much
bornfree
15-02-2010
I have been watching DOI for years, this year the undermarking is beyond a joke. I did not have an opinion about Danny at first, but the undermarking and unnecessary criticism from the judges have made me see Danny is really good and very rarely moans or complains. He looked broken last night.
-Sid-
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
“I thought it should have been Sharron in the s-o.

Maybe it's Frankie's attitude people don't like?”

As fond as I am of Frankie, I don't think she's helping herself or Danny by moaning about the scores they get. This is the second week running she's done this and it makes her come across as a bit stroppy and ungracious.

As for Danny, he seems like a really nice guy, but his ice dancing isn't improving at the same rate as some of the others. I still prefer him to Gary though who has the same lackluster approach to every routine he does - at least Danny tries to 'perform'.
Tiger Rose
15-02-2010
Originally Posted by Eviesmum:
“I actually think that she's going through because of Fred. She is on borrowed time now the doc has gone I think.
As for Danny, I agree, he seems like a nice enough lad, skates really well, I also agree with Frankie about the technical aspects of his routine not being scored on. I felt he was undermarked.

Having said that I didn't vote for him so I can' really complain if he's in the bottom 2, I felt it should have been Emily, but that is because I love her so much ”

I really don't think this is the case. Fred's been in loads of skate offs in previous years. Like her or not, she is getting votes in her own right.
EyeLikeBeer
15-02-2010
I vote for Emily because she needs it. As soon as she is in the skate off she is going so Ill be voting extra next week
bornfree
18-02-2010
come on guys Danny is not that bad. I wish more people would lend him their support.
robtuk06
18-02-2010
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“come on guys Danny is not that bad. I wish more people would lend him their support.”

He isn't that good either though. The only thing that has improved since his first week is that he now appears more stable. He isn't doing the particularly difficult moves which Keiron is, he is still just doing lifts.
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