Windows Phone 7 series

TheBigM · 15-02-2010, 19:23

Has anyone seen this? There is a video on the microsoft website - you have to click to about 1h30m though before anything happens.

I was very impressed by it all.

Coverage:

www.engadget.com

Video:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...e/default.aspx

Gormond · 15-02-2010, 20:57

Not keen on the interface, looks really basic and hate the way it cuts off words at the top. Why would a company pay to put this on their phone when you can get Android for free...

JamesLook · 15-02-2010, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

Has anyone seen this? There is a video on the microsoft website - you have to click to about 1h30m though before anything happens.

I was very impressed by it all.

Coverage:

www.engadget.com

Video:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...e/default.aspx

Considering it isn't out for another 9 months it is all a little bit too late. What MS have now is what Apple and Android had two years ago. By the time MS ship it Android will have launched version 3 and iPhone 4 will be out.

cribology · 15-02-2010, 23:17

Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI.

TheBigM · 16-02-2010, 08:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by cribology

Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI.

Apple haven't changed their UI for iPhone since the launch of the original 2G UI. Admittedly I'm sure they have been working on something in the meantime but all they have given consumers are first a radio upgrade and then a processing power upgrade. They are hardly pushing out upgrades as soon as they can.

Anyway I think the main point was that MS can still think radically and innovate. The main fear was that by showing something very similar to the current Windows Mobile platform, MS would be seen as a company just running off the steam of past glories.

Having launched, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Phone 7 now, new things coming out for Xbox 360 all the time - they have proven they can still compete in the marketplace.

Gormond · 16-02-2010, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by cribology

Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI.

I hope not, I'm not a fan of the UI used by Windows phone series 7 or what ever they call it.

David Tee · 16-02-2010, 09:39

Frankly, I was expecting MS to fumble the ball as usual but overall it looks pretty good to me. Certainly way better than I was expecting.

prking · 16-02-2010, 09:42

Its certainly interesting, however I have concerns about Microsoft so tightly controlling the specification of handsets. The lack of a Mac connectivity option is also strange.
I wonder why Microsoft slightly spoiled the announcement, by saying that the 6.x line will continue for enterprise users, which gives the impression that Windows Phone is less capable than Windows Mobile.
It will certainly be an interesting time later in the year, seeing how Windows Phone matches up to iPhone OS4, Symbian^3, Android 2.x, Maemo/MeeGo and Bada.

JamesLook · 16-02-2010, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigM

Apple haven't changed their UI for iPhone since the launch of the original 2G UI. Admittedly I'm sure they have been working on something in the meantime but all they have given consumers are first a radio upgrade and then a processing power upgrade. They are hardly pushing out upgrades as soon as they can.

Anyway I think the main point was that MS can still think radically and innovate. The main fear was that by showing something very similar to the current Windows Mobile platform, MS would be seen as a company just running off the steam of past glories.

Having launched, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Phone 7 now, new things coming out for Xbox 360 all the time - they have proven they can still compete in the marketplace.

Apple run its upgrade cycle yearly and iPhone 4.0 is likely to be out in June or July. I think you miss the point of updates - it doesn't always have to be some hardware upgrade. The hardware within the iPhone isn't much different to what is in the other latest smart phones - the difference is the software and 140,000 apps, over 2 billion app downloads. That is how Apple has differentiated the iPhone and by the time MS gets Windows CE 7 out of the door there will be 100 million iPhone OS users and 200,000 apps. That is what MS has to compete with and it is already at a big disadvantage as what the phone companies pay MS for they can get from Google for free.

clonmult · 16-02-2010, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Tee

Frankly, I was expecting MS to fumble the ball as usual but overall it looks pretty good to me. Certainly way better than I was expecting.

Its an interesting design, but I think that have basically got it wrong.

The Zune - on which the UI is based - hasn't exactly had what you'd call stellar success.

The UI is heavily based around social networking and being "clever". But its gone far too clever, and it looks like they're basically abandoning their current user base, ie. business. Can't even begin to imagine corporates going for something like this.

prking · 16-02-2010, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by clonmult

. . . But its gone far too clever, and it looks like they're basically abandoning their current user base, ie. business. Can't even begin to imagine corporates going for something like this.

I agree, and its one reason why Microsoft have announced that that Windows Mobile 6.x will be continuing as well. I can see this causing a great deal of confusion.

15-02-2010, 19:23	#1
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Windows Phone 7 series Has anyone seen this? There is a video on the microsoft website - you have to click to about 1h30m though before anything happens. I was very impressed by it all. Coverage: www.engadget.com Video: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...e/default.aspx

15-02-2010, 20:57	#2
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Not keen on the interface, looks really basic and hate the way it cuts off words at the top. Why would a company pay to put this on their phone when you can get Android for free...

15-02-2010, 21:03	#3
JamesLook Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,438	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM Has anyone seen this? There is a video on the microsoft website - you have to click to about 1h30m though before anything happens. I was very impressed by it all. Coverage: www.engadget.com Video: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...e/default.aspx Considering it isn't out for another 9 months it is all a little bit too late. What MS have now is what Apple and Android had two years ago. By the time MS ship it Android will have launched version 3 and iPhone 4 will be out.

15-02-2010, 23:17	#4
cribology Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,950	Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI.

16-02-2010, 08:40	#5
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Quote: Originally Posted by cribology Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI. Apple haven't changed their UI for iPhone since the launch of the original 2G UI. Admittedly I'm sure they have been working on something in the meantime but all they have given consumers are first a radio upgrade and then a processing power upgrade. They are hardly pushing out upgrades as soon as they can. Anyway I think the main point was that MS can still think radically and innovate. The main fear was that by showing something very similar to the current Windows Mobile platform, MS would be seen as a company just running off the steam of past glories. Having launched, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Phone 7 now, new things coming out for Xbox 360 all the time - they have proven they can still compete in the marketplace.

16-02-2010, 09:17	#6
Gormond Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Scotland Posts: 15,714	Quote: Originally Posted by cribology Yep by the time this comes out I expect Android and Apple to at least match the UI. I hope not, I'm not a fan of the UI used by Windows phone series 7 or what ever they call it.

16-02-2010, 09:39	#7
David Tee Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 22,520	Frankly, I was expecting MS to fumble the ball as usual but overall it looks pretty good to me. Certainly way better than I was expecting.

16-02-2010, 09:42	#8
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Its certainly interesting, however I have concerns about Microsoft so tightly controlling the specification of handsets. The lack of a Mac connectivity option is also strange. I wonder why Microsoft slightly spoiled the announcement, by saying that the 6.x line will continue for enterprise users, which gives the impression that Windows Phone is less capable than Windows Mobile. It will certainly be an interesting time later in the year, seeing how Windows Phone matches up to iPhone OS4, Symbian^3, Android 2.x, Maemo/MeeGo and Bada.

16-02-2010, 09:52	#9
JamesLook Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,438	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM Apple haven't changed their UI for iPhone since the launch of the original 2G UI. Admittedly I'm sure they have been working on something in the meantime but all they have given consumers are first a radio upgrade and then a processing power upgrade. They are hardly pushing out upgrades as soon as they can. Anyway I think the main point was that MS can still think radically and innovate. The main fear was that by showing something very similar to the current Windows Mobile platform, MS would be seen as a company just running off the steam of past glories. Having launched, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008 R2, Windows Phone 7 now, new things coming out for Xbox 360 all the time - they have proven they can still compete in the marketplace. Apple run its upgrade cycle yearly and iPhone 4.0 is likely to be out in June or July. I think you miss the point of updates - it doesn't always have to be some hardware upgrade. The hardware within the iPhone isn't much different to what is in the other latest smart phones - the difference is the software and 140,000 apps, over 2 billion app downloads. That is how Apple has differentiated the iPhone and by the time MS gets Windows CE 7 out of the door there will be 100 million iPhone OS users and 200,000 apps. That is what MS has to compete with and it is already at a big disadvantage as what the phone companies pay MS for they can get from Google for free.

16-02-2010, 09:55	#10
clonmult Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,291	Quote: Originally Posted by David Tee Frankly, I was expecting MS to fumble the ball as usual but overall it looks pretty good to me. Certainly way better than I was expecting. Its an interesting design, but I think that have basically got it wrong. The Zune - on which the UI is based - hasn't exactly had what you'd call stellar success. The UI is heavily based around social networking and being "clever". But its gone far too clever, and it looks like they're basically abandoning their current user base, ie. business. Can't even begin to imagine corporates going for something like this.

16-02-2010, 12:18	#11
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by clonmult . . . But its gone far too clever, and it looks like they're basically abandoning their current user base, ie. business. Can't even begin to imagine corporates going for something like this. I agree, and its one reason why Microsoft have announced that that Windows Mobile 6.x will be continuing as well. I can see this causing a great deal of confusion.

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