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Bee Gees or Beatles?
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Matildamother
20-02-2010
Originally Posted by malspie:
“To all you oldies out there, who do you think were the best songwriters and performers - Brothers Gibb/Bee Gees or Lennon & McCartney/Beatles? Personally I would say The Bee Gees but I'm sure a lot of people would disagree because of how popular the Beatles were.”

Oh you got to be joking. I like the Rolling Stones also but it doesn't mean that I think Keith Richards is a better guitarist than Jimi Hendrix.

The Beatles gift of melody, unusual chord progressions, bass lines, gutiar riffs and drum patterns far exceeds the Bee Gees in term of depth and innovation. On top of that they were using the recording technology they had into their songwriting. Listen to "Happiness is A Warm Gun" it's three minute with more contrasting sections, melodies and time singnature changes at one point a polyrhtyhm than most prog songs.

Not to take away from the Bee Gees they were really good. The Bee Gees were great but this is one case that the mentors the Beatles were far greater than the students the Bee Gees.

The Beatles vs the Rolling Stones would be much better.
funnyusername
20-02-2010
totally different, both made Outstanding contributions to music. i would have the both in my top 3 all time popular songwriters, but my personal preferance would be L&M. people need to look at the songs the BG's wrote, not just their own, and try and look past the disco era...

the beach boys are up there too.
funnyusername
20-02-2010
Originally Posted by Matildamother:
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The Beatles gift of melody, unusual chord progressions, bass lines, gutiar riffs and drum patterns far exceeds the Bee Gees in term of depth and innovation. On top of that they were using the recording technology they had into their songwriting. Listen to "Happiness is A Warm Gun" it's three minute with more contrasting sections, melodies and time singnature changes at one point a polyrhtyhm than most prog songs.”

that much is true, but it also prevented them from going live with that stuff (even tho they hated gigging).

the bee gees are/were a beter live act than the beatles could ever be.
funnyusername
20-02-2010
pink floyd..the doors..the kinks..the stones.. all better performance bands than the beatles.
eugenespeed
20-02-2010
I would personally say The Beatles, however, I am always open to a different opinion.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on why the Bee Gees were better song writers.

Here is my favourite Bee Gees track, for the heck of it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKRyWWiZRu4
Matildamother
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by funnyusername:
“that much is true, but it also prevented them from going live with that stuff (even tho they hated gigging).

the bee gees are/were a beter live act than the beatles could ever be.”

Uh when there was a time when they could hear themselves play like Live in Sweden in 1963 they were a great live band. They stop touring because they wanted to focus on the studio. They could not bother playing live by 1965 because they could hardly hear themselves play.
Matildamother
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by funnyusername:
“pink floyd..the doors..the kinks..the stones.. all better performance bands than the beatles.”

You better hear Live in Sweden in 1963 this was before all of them. IF YOU WANT TO HEAR Proto-hard rock listen to their version of "Money That's What I Want" from Sweden or Ringo drum solo on Long Tall Sally from Washington DC 1964.

It's hard to compare the Beatles live to the Doors or Pink Floyd when they stopped touring in 1966. The Kinks were not a great live band. The Stones on the other hand I doubt they could pull off the stuff the Beatles were doing especially when it came to vocal harmonies.
Reality Sucks
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“I think the Beatles are grossly over-rated.

Sure, they knocked out a few decent tunes, but I don't buy into the myth. They were a pop band and then they got into drugs and released some psychedelic stuff. Great.

I'd rather listen to the Bee Gees.”

But just about every band in the 60s were influenced by the Beatles including the Bee Gees. You may prefer the Bee Gees but as far as their contribution to the music scene is concerned there's no contest.
Reality Sucks
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by funnyusername:
“that much is true, but it also prevented them from going live with that stuff (even tho they hated gigging).

the bee gees are/were a beter live act than the beatles could ever be.”


That's just not true. One of the reasons the Beatles were so successful was because they were so tight musically and that came about because of the hours of live performances they put in in their time in Hamburg before they ever became famous in the UK. They'd clocked up more performance hours in their stints in Hamburg than most of today's bands clock up in their whole careers. In the end they stopped gigging because they couldn't hear themselves play and preferred to work on their creativity in a studio setting.
Coen
21-02-2010
Why does it have to be Bee gee or Beatles?

Music isnt a competition.
mushymanrob
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“Feel free to post links to the proof, then.

Until then, it's a myth. ”

erm... its only a myth to to because you cant be bothered to do a little research dude... you have the internet
Deep Purple
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by mattshenton:
“no they were rubbish, the brothers gib have wrote some of the best music of all time.

But beatlemania fans will be out in force shoving there "point" down peoples throats no matter what.

For me the bee gees were better but thats just my choice”

To suggest that The Beatles were rubbish is rather silly.

It is all about opinion, and the many millions who still enjoy The Beatles is nothing to do with brainwashing.

They were in the right place at the right time to lead the musical revolution, but they needed the talent to maintain that, and to keep the legacy that remains.

They had three brilliant, but different songwriters, and their progression over seven years was nothing short of astonishing.

There are bands I like more, but I cant knock what The Beatles did.

As for The Bee Gees, I enjoyed some of their early songs, but wouldn't put them in the same category as The Beatles, or many of the other rock giants from that era.
abarthman
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“erm... its only a myth to to because you cant be bothered to do a little research dude... you have the internet ”

Thank you for confirming what I thought - that the "copious ammounts of evidence" [sic] just doesn't exist.
funnyusername
21-02-2010
early bee gees stuff is better than early beatles
Deep Purple
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by funnyusername:
“early bee gees stuff is better than early beatles”

Thats like saying early Led Zeppelin was better than early Beatles. Times had changed by then, and The Beatles were at the forefront of that change.
misslibertine
21-02-2010
I don't see why you'd only want to ask "oldies"
mattshenton
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“To suggest that The Beatles were rubbish is rather silly.

It is all about opinion, and the many millions who still enjoy The Beatles is nothing to do with brainwashing.

They were in the right place at the right time to lead the musical revolution, but they needed the talent to maintain that, and to keep the legacy that remains.

They had three brilliant, but different songwriters, and their progression over seven years was nothing short of astonishing.

There are bands I like more, but I cant knock what The Beatles did.

As for The Bee Gees, I enjoyed some of their early songs, but wouldn't put them in the same category as The Beatles, or many of the other rock giants from that era.”

why is it silly to suggest the beatles were rubbish????

I don't like the beatles like many others and like many others they like the beatles.

its called having a view, the only thing silly around here is been bully'ed into thinking my views mean nothing.

right moving onto a new thread with been harrassed by the "beatle-Manics"
misslibertine
21-02-2010
Originally Posted by mattshenton:
“why is it silly to suggest the beatles were rubbish????

I don't like the beatles like many others and like many others they like the beatles.

its called having a view, the only thing silly around here is been bully'ed into thinking my views mean nothing.

right moving onto a new thread with been harrassed by the "beatle-Manics"”

That's not strictly true. If people being so dismissive of your opinion (rightly or wrongly) really had any effect on you, it would have put you off posting the amount of Beatles hatred that you do.

Not saying anyone else's opinion of what you say should put you off, but it's hardly bullying.
Deep Purple
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by mattshenton:
“why is it silly to suggest the beatles were rubbish????

I don't like the beatles like many others and like many others they like the beatles.

its called having a view, the only thing silly around here is been bully'ed into thinking my views mean nothing.

right moving onto a new thread with been harrassed by the "beatle-Manics"”

It's silly because they were not rubbish. You may not like them, and that is fine, because it is all about personal taste.

To say they were rubbish implies they were no good at what they were doing, and they were.
mushymanrob
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“Thank you for confirming what I thought - that the "copious ammounts of evidence" [sic] just doesn't exist. ”

surely you dont believe that!!!!!

do your own research, start with wiki... tbh ive got better things to do!
summer_redux
22-02-2010
I like the Bee Gees and I think they wrote or at least recorded some great songs. I also like the Beatles and undoubtedly they wrote some belters in their time. Overall, as it'll come as no surprise, I think the Beatles were better.

But it is a matter of preference.
ricatkn
27-02-2010
As a huge Bee Gees fan I am biased, they win it for me!

The Beatles were, however, a fantastic band & group of songwriters (Don't forget George!) & their contribution to pop culture is unsurpassed.

The Beatles are not overated if anything The Bee Gees remain underated in the eyes of many.

Those people that say the Gibb's "were a Disco band"
annoys true Bee Gees fans to hell. They have, over almost 50 years, produced a truely ecalectic catologue of songs that, in my opinion cannot be matched by anyone.

Barry & Robin are writing together again @ the moment so their legacy may well go on.

Congratulations to both The Beatles & The Bee Gees their contribution to my life (& the lives of many many others) is almost impossible to calculate.
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