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Sharron on This Morning
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k9fan
22-02-2010
Thank you.

I am glad that Sharon and Pavel built up such a good partnership.
Ignazio
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Pavel said that they changed the music - and adapted the T&D choreography to fit the slower music - but the majority of what they did in last night's routine was what they had been given (or words to that effect!).

He also commented about the VT not showing exactly what had happened but was shut up on that pretty quickly by Phillip.

I heard Sharron asking for a slower piece of music a couple of times in the VT as well as saying WHY she needed a slower routine - but she seemed to be being totally ignored”

Everything I would have said Caro - anyone who insists Sharron changed the music without first expressing her fears, clearly did not watch the show.
Sallyforth
22-02-2010
In regards to the issue about not changing the technical part of the choreography just the pace, perhaps it was that she could do the same moves more slowly/less energetically to slower music.
winenroses
22-02-2010
It would seem that Pavel has no problems with Sharron and supports her all the way. I thought their body language last night was indicative of this as well.
lola14
22-02-2010
I think Sharon and Pavel came across really well, and I admit I didn't like them on last night's show. Sharon was very gracious, and she handled Philip very well,, who was very OTT, with his line of questioning. As for Jason walking off at the end, it just shows what a small-minded man, he really is!
sazzleperkins
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“To be fair, Sharron did come across well (particularly her well-measured response to jason walking out). I have to admit, I also listened to what Pavel had to say. I don't think he invented the clicking noise, and he made the point about the VT. IMO Phil came across a bit aggressive.”

I injured my shoulder in a car accident and it makes a horrible 'clicking' and 'grinding' sound - I also struggle to do menial tasks like hanging clothes up in the wardrobe if I have to lift my arm above my head (Mr Saz's rail is very high!).

So I agree that Pavel would have been able to hear the noise in Sharron's shoulder - my eldest son really tells me off when he hears mine cracking, especially if we're eating!

I didn't see TM as I am at work but can understand why Sharron was struggling with certain moves. She just went about it in the wrong way, I think (or was badly edited) and this impacted on her popularity last night.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this - the shoulder noise comment struck a chord with me is all.
duryea
22-02-2010
I haven't seen this. But there were reports before the series started that she had a bad attitude. She has come across the same way Kelly Holmes did, entitled. They've won medals and think that's all the have to do to be praised and loved. As an athelete she must have known there were limits to her abilities due to injuries. It's my belief she wanted a free ride coasting on her previous success.

She claims she's friends with Jayne and Chris. Well she showed them no respect either as a friend or fellow professional when she didn't even let them know what she was doing.
Jayma
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Pavel said that they changed the music - and adapted the T&D choreography to fit the slower music - but the majority of what they did in last night's routine was what they had been given (or words to that effect!).

He also commented about the VT not showing exactly what had happened but was shut up on that pretty quickly by Phillip.

I heard Sharron asking for a slower piece of music a couple of times in the VT as well as saying WHY she needed a slower routine - but she seemed to be being totally ignored”

I did hear Chris say a couple of times something along the lines of 'Well you tell us, Sharron, we need to know what you want' (not his exact words) and Jayne said in the VT that she and Chris had majorly simplified the routine by the end of the day and left Sharron on Monday with the belief that all parties were happy with the adjustments.

I think the faux-pas on Sharron's part which has caused the 'public outrage'(!) is the fact that she appears not to have informed Jayne and Chris of her decision to change the actual song, but just went ahead, which has come across to many as being disrespectful to Jayne and Chris.

I have splinters in my backside over this, as I can see why it comes across that Sharron disregarded Jayne and Chris, but at the same time, it could be argued that Heather's individual requirements were largely taken into account but Sharron's long-term injury may not have been considered to the same degree on this occasion.

Perhaps it would have been best overall for Sharron, if the injury was that bad, to pull out, saying to J + C that she really wanted to do the routine to that song, but couldn't because of the injury, so in view of that, she would have to step down. She must have known she would be a goner this week after going against Torvill and Dean.

Had she pulled out of her own accord, it wouldn't have looked like she was being disrespectful, and she could have protected the injury which she says was causing her so many limitations.

Now off to write War and Peace Volume II !
paralax
22-02-2010
The producers must have known about her injuries, she would have told them. She has had trouble with her shoulder in past weeks, so they knew and with all the other moves they could have given her, why ask her to risk dislocating her shoulder.

The whole show is rigged anyway, they decide before the show on the max marks to make sure their favourites are top of the leader board, they have their good skaters and the rest just make up the numbers. Hayley always has good music, the best costume and Daniel is probably the best professional. She is good but it is the contrived way they do the show that is annoying.
memmh
22-02-2010
I just watched this interview. I didn't think it was in any way aggressive from Phillip; he was asking questions that needed to be asked, given the reactions of the viewers on the various forums, twitter etc. He wasn't aggressive or accusatory in any way.
Georgiecats
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by duryea:
“I haven't seen this. But there were reports before the series started that she had a bad attitude. She has come across the same way Kelly Holmes did, entitled. They've won medals and think that's all the have to do to be praised and loved. As an athelete she must have known there were limits to her abilities due to injuries. It's my belief she wanted a free ride coasting on her previous success.

She claims she's friends with Jayne and Chris. Well she showed them no respect either as a friend or fellow professional when she didn't even let them know what she was doing.”

Yes but are we being shown only the negative bits of VT in favour of J & C to make it look like they were being totally ignored?

As with any of these shows the production team can pick out whatever they want to make it look one sided. It made Sharron look headstrong and deliberately choosing something else against J & C's wishes. So why didn't J & C get involved again after Monday? And help her adapt their routine? Instead it just made Sharron look bad.

No way will J & C be made to look bad because they are the darlings of the show.

And don't get me wrong I love J & C - but this has never happened to them before and it's like HOW DARE SHE!!!

So in other words J & C could make or break you depending on whether they like you or not. If u don't toe the line you're out of there.
Lorelei Lee
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by Georgiecats:
“ J & C could make or break you depending on whether they like you or not. If u don't toe the line you're out of there.”

That's why they call it 'Torvill & Dean's Dancing on Ice'! The authorities know they've got no show without those two.

The more I think about it, the more I'm realising that those two are conspiring to slant this show the way they want it. Sharron was left looking like the wicked witch, while Danny's left struggling in medium-paced routine hell. They've even stopped choreographing interesting stuff for Mikey in the last couple of weeks.

By contrast, Gary, Kieron, Hayley and Danniella are getting stuff that plays to their strengths. Gary's routines are all about 'emoting' without dazzling, Kieron's routines are about attitude over grace etc etc. Even Emily's starting to get some routines where she can show a bit more personality and not be left looking bland and boring.

Hmmm
vidalia
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by memmh:
“I just watched this interview. I didn't think it was in any way aggressive from Phillip; he was asking questions that needed to be asked, given the reactions of the viewers on the various forums, twitter etc. He wasn't aggressive or accusatory in any way.”

Not aggressive perhaps but it was a bit like he was interrogating her about something of major national importance. Delusions of Paxman.
Betti Swollocks
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by vidalia:
“Not aggressive perhaps but it was a bit like he was interrogating her about something of major national importance. Delusions of Paxman.”

memmh
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by vidalia:
“Not aggressive perhaps but it was a bit like he was interrogating her about something of major national importance. Delusions of Paxman.”

There were several threads here complaining about what she did, before they were all merged into one, and twitter last night was full of outrage - it even became a trending topic. It wasn't of major national importance but loads of people feel very strongly about it one way or the other so, yes, if he's interviewing her about her experiences on DOI and her exit from it, then I think he was perfectly right to ask about this. She wasn't really given a chance last night on DOI to explain why she changed the music and the VT was heavily edited, so it was good that Phillip gave her that opportunity to present her side on This Morning.
Castanet
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by Jayma:
“Now off to write War and Peace Volume II ! ”

Nice one Jayma.
Jethryk
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by memmh:
“There were several threads here complaining about what she did, before they were all merged into one, and twitter last night was full of outrage - it even became a trending topic. It wasn't of major national importance but loads of people feel very strongly about it one way or the other so, yes, if he's interviewing her about her experiences on DOI and her exit from it, then I think he was perfectly right to ask about this. She wasn't really given a chance last night on DOI to explain why she changed the music and the VT was heavily edited, so it was good that Phillip gave her that opportunity to present her side on This Morning.”

Not exactly an impartial interviewer though. Take a look at his website. He describes his position quite clearly.
She wasn't my favourite and on merit probably deserved to go but it all seems like a bit of a hatchet job to me.
MrsRobinson
22-02-2010
^^ Hatchet job or not, Sharron was the least capable skater and the most boring to watch and was 'lifted' up far too much so never really did much 'dancing on ice'... to borrow some of the words of Emma, the competition can now begin!!!
robbies_gal
22-02-2010
has noone commented on the fact she said i thought there would be more skating not as much dancing

er hello the shows called dancing on ice love?

and if u wanst sure u jsut get tapes of other series and have a look
CaroUK
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by MrsRobinson:
“^^ Hatchet job or not, Sharron was the least capable skater and the most boring to watch and was 'lifted' up far too much so never really did much 'dancing on ice'... to borrow some of the words of Emma, the competition can now begin!!!”

On the contrary - Sharron did a lot more skating over the weeks she was in the show - even including jumps last week.

She could actually SKATE quite well and showed reasonable technique - what she couldn't do was perform very well and her height and long limbs made it difficult to look elegant.

Her main mistake seems to have been to change the music to a slow number - she and Pavel adapted the T&D choreography to suit "Stay". What does appear to have offended everyone more is the fact that they didn't tell T&D and the producers that they had done so until it was too late.

I agree that she should have consulted more before doing what she did - but if the alternative was to lose a 10 minute segment of the show because she would probably not have been able to perform - I'm glad she and Pavel did actually skate out rather than pull out!

At the end of the day - why should she risk a serious and painful injury (and a dislocated should is VERY painful and serious!) just to entertain us??
lulu g
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“On the contrary - Sharron did a lot more skating over the weeks she was in the show - even including jumps last week.

She could actually SKATE quite well and showed reasonable technique - what she couldn't do was perform very well and her height and long limbs made it difficult to look elegant.

Her main mistake seems to have been to change the music to a slow number - she and Pavel adapted the T&D choreography to suit "Stay". What does appear to have offended everyone more is the fact that they didn't tell T&D and the producers that they had done so until it was too late.

I agree that she should have consulted more before doing what she did - but if the alternative was to lose a 10 minute segment of the show because she would probably not have been able to perform - I'm glad she and Pavel did actually skate out rather than pull out!

At the end of the day - why should she risk a serious and painful injury (and a dislocated should is VERY painful and serious!) just to entertain us??”

I really don't think anyone thinks she should. It's a question of how she dealt with it.
memmh
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I really don't think anyone thinks she should. It's a question of how she dealt with it.”

Exactly. I very much doubt anyone thinks she should risk any further injury. It's not WHAT Sharron did that annoyed people, it's HOW she seems to have done it that's caused the upset.
thenetworkbabe
22-02-2010
Originally Posted by Lorelei Lee:
“That's why they call it 'Torvill & Dean's Dancing on Ice'! The authorities know they've got no show without those two.

The more I think about it, the more I'm realising that those two are conspiring to slant this show the way they want it. Sharron was left looking like the wicked witch, while Danny's left struggling in medium-paced routine hell. They've even stopped choreographing interesting stuff for Mikey in the last couple of weeks.

By contrast, Gary, Kieron, Hayley and Danniella are getting stuff that plays to their strengths. Gary's routines are all about 'emoting' without dazzling, Kieron's routines are about attitude over grace etc etc. Even Emily's starting to get some routines where she can show a bit more personality and not be left looking bland and boring.

Hmmm ”

Chicken and egg. As someone said on Fame Academy, you can only have things tailored to your style if you have a style. If they haven't found something good enough that you do well, there's no obvious place to go, if its clear you can't lift or act there's not much they can do about it, and if there's lots of things you can't do its not obvious what to fix. As you say they have found things to use with those 3, Hayley is now ticking the wow factor and the gracefully acted boxes, with different emphases each week, and Daniella seems to be adding more wow and more difficulty and more role playing and is on a nice learning curve.
riversmum
22-02-2010
C & J must be very busy and for all we know they could have tried to contact them or maybe just knew it was pointless trying.
Both her and Pav said that if they hadn't slowed and altered the routine she wouldn't have been able to skate by sunday. Swimming wrecks joints, especially shoulders and she knows her capabilities.
kassieq
22-02-2010
Sharon didn't like skating to fast music and wasn't going to, if the routine involved moves that hurt her shoulder they could have modified it, no need to change the music.
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