Aren't Virgin Mobile and T-Mobile the same company?

22-04-2004, 17:51

Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company?

Alex

N-I-C-K · 22-04-2004, 18:03

Virgin uses T-Mobile's network.

sean2003 · 22-04-2004, 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Hudson

Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company?

Alex

No, Virgin just pay T-Mobile so virgin can use there transmiters, just like Tesco, is using o2.

Cheaper for networks to do this, as they dont have to pay for all the new transmitters, and stuff.

Virgin and T-mobile had a arguement a little while back, and virgin was thinking of using a different network to supply the service, but t-mob, and virgin sorted this, and have some sort of 10yr deal

Internet-Kid · 22-04-2004, 18:20

sounds like they are the same comp.

katie · 22-04-2004, 18:31

Virgin and T-Mobile are not the same company. Virgin, if I remember rightly, is a company in it's own right with many subsidiaries. T-Mobile's parent company is Deutsche Telekom.

Katie.

BexTech · 22-04-2004, 19:14

T-Mobile and Virgin are not the same Company.

Virgin at one time was a 50:50 joint venture.

But now Virgin Mobile is 100% owned by Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group and is the UK's first mobile virtual operator, it uses T-Mobile's network.

It just 'rents' space on the T-Mobile network, for want of better words, like Sky rent space off Astra.

rivaldo11 · 22-04-2004, 20:08

virgin sims work in tmobile phones but tmobile sims dont work on virgin phones.

BexTech · 22-04-2004, 20:22

Yeah, strange that!

Papyrus · 24-04-2004, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Hudson

Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company?

Alex

Hi Alex, how many VCRs do you own?

24-04-2004, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papyrus

Hi Alex, how many VCRs do you own?

Greetings "Papryus",
I personally own three VCR's - which I have in my loft conversion - 2 are connected together (The LG and Bush are connected together) The Matsui is connected to the Mediamaster also the Matsui is connected to the DVD Player. It's the only one that doesen't bugger up on Macro Vision when recording DVD to VHS.

Alex

BexTech · 24-04-2004, 20:15

I think Papyrus, was trying to imply, aren't all VCRs made by JVC?

24-04-2004, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech

I think Papyrus, was trying to imply, aren't all VCRs made by JVC?

Call me a pillock but, maybe I'm, losing the plot but - VCR's are made by various manafacturers. What was he implying?

Alex

BexTech · 24-04-2004, 21:26

JVC invented the VHS VCR.

Saying T-Mobile and Virgin are the same company, is like saying all your VCRs are made by JVC.

DVB Cornwall · 24-04-2004, 22:23

Right this is a bit complicated ....

There are two types of mobile operator

Physical Operators (5 in the UK)
MMO2
Vodafone
T Mobile
Orange
and Three

and Virtual operators examples
Tesco
Sainsbury
Virgin
BT Mobile

The difference is that the Physical operators actually own the network infrastructure. The Virtual operators don't they buy capacity on other networks in bulk. Virgin and BT Mobile both do this using T-Mobile's network.

Hope that helps.

Steven L Hunter · 25-04-2004, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVB Cornwall

Right this is a bit complicated ....

There are two types of mobile operator

Physical Operators (5 in the UK)
MMO2
Vodafone
T Mobile
Orange
and Three

and Virtual operators examples
Tesco
Sainsbury
Virgin
BT Mobile

The difference is that the Physical operators actually own the network infrastructure. The Virtual operators don't they buy capacity on other networks in bulk. Virgin and BT Mobile both do this using T-Mobile's network.

Hope that helps.

When since has Sainsbury's had a network? And you forgot Fresh & One.Tel!!

sean2003 · 25-04-2004, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolSteven427

When since has Sainsbury's had a network? And you forgot Fresh & One.Tel!!

wow , they have , don't give much away though!

http://www.sainsburystelecom.co.uk/c...tproducts-Main

Papyrus · 25-04-2004, 20:25

Sorry to have caused any confusion, I was cheekily remarking at the detail of 'Services' that Alex Hudson has - not that it's too much you understand...

He or she has 3 VCRs.

Virgin & T-Mobile, the same company? I see this question asked occasionally and it had been largely answered, so I had no real comment to make.

Steven L Hunter · 25-04-2004, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean2003

wow , they have , don't give much away though!

http://www.sainsburystelecom.co.uk/c...tproducts-Main

Do you actually get a different network or do you just get an o2 sim card with the phones?

Mikey_TM · 25-04-2004, 23:10

Whenever you buy a phone, on pay as you go or pay monthly, you will be connected to the service. The SIM card will be in the phone.
Many phones are locked to the network. You can't use other SIM cards on different networks. Phone operators charge to unlock your phone but it is best to go to a local phone shop who deals with SIM unlocks usually priced from a fiver.

29-04-2004, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivaldo11

virgin sims work in tmobile phones but tmobile sims dont work on virgin phones.

So, regardless of whatever T-Mobile phone i bought - weather it was an old one (when it was One 2 One) i could use a virgin sim in their old moblies? And if i have a new T- Mob i could use a virgin sim in their too ?

Alex

BexTech · 29-04-2004, 16:15

Yes you can put a Virgin SIM in a T-Mobile(One2One) phone, but can not put a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone.

I have not tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone myself, but have been told on many occasions it can't be done, unless unlocked.

But I have put a Virgin SIM into a T-Mobile phone, and so have a few of my friends and family and they have all worked fine.

lukeh2003 · 29-04-2004, 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by BexTech

I have not tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone myself, but have been told on many occasions it can't be done, unless unlocked.

I have always found I could put sim cards from any network into a virgin phone... or maybe thats just me being lucky

BexTech · 29-04-2004, 17:19

I know the Carphone Warehouse were selling some Virgin Mobiles that were not locked, don't know when from and if they still are.

Steven L Hunter · 29-04-2004, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukeh2003

I have always found I could put sim cards from any network into a virgin phone... or maybe thats just me being lucky

Did you by any chance buy your phone from The Carphone Warehouse? as their phones are always unlocked as they just give you a phone and they give you a joining pack with it for what network you want it on.

Steven L Hunter · 29-04-2004, 17:20

oops sorry posted at the same time lol

22-04-2004, 17:51	#1
kentboy Posts: n/a	Aren't Virgin Mobile and T-Mobile the same company? Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company? Alex

24-04-2004, 20:13	#10
kentboy Posts: n/a	The amount of Video Recorders I own. Quote: Originally Posted by Papyrus Hi Alex, how many VCRs do you own? Greetings "Papryus", I personally own three VCR's - which I have in my loft conversion - 2 are connected together (The LG and Bush are connected together) The Matsui is connected to the Mediamaster also the Matsui is connected to the DVD Player. It's the only one that doesen't bugger up on Macro Vision when recording DVD to VHS. Alex

25-04-2004, 20:25	#17
Papyrus Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,809	Virgin & T-Mobile, the same company? Sorry to have caused any confusion, I was cheekily remarking at the detail of 'Services' that Alex Hudson has - not that it's too much you understand... He or she has 3 VCRs. Virgin & T-Mobile, the same company? I see this question asked occasionally and it had been largely answered, so I had no real comment to make.

29-04-2004, 12:47	#20
kentboy Posts: n/a	Virgin / T-Mobile Quote: Originally Posted by rivaldo11 virgin sims work in tmobile phones but tmobile sims dont work on virgin phones. So, regardless of whatever T-Mobile phone i bought - weather it was an old one (when it was One 2 One) i could use a virgin sim in their old moblies? And if i have a new T- Mob i could use a virgin sim in their too ? Alex

22-04-2004, 18:03	#2
N-I-C-K Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,119	Virgin uses T-Mobile's network.

22-04-2004, 18:04	#3
sean2003 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,618	Quote: Originally Posted by Alex Hudson Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company? Alex No, Virgin just pay T-Mobile so virgin can use there transmiters, just like Tesco, is using o2. Cheaper for networks to do this, as they dont have to pay for all the new transmitters, and stuff. Virgin and T-mobile had a arguement a little while back, and virgin was thinking of using a different network to supply the service, but t-mob, and virgin sorted this, and have some sort of 10yr deal

22-04-2004, 18:20	#4
Internet-Kid Banned User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ilford Posts: 611	sounds like they are the same comp.

22-04-2004, 18:31	#5
katie Forum Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,765	Virgin and T-Mobile are not the same company. Virgin, if I remember rightly, is a company in it's own right with many subsidiaries. T-Mobile's parent company is Deutsche Telekom. Katie.

22-04-2004, 19:14	#6
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	T-Mobile and Virgin are not the same Company. Virgin at one time was a 50:50 joint venture. But now Virgin Mobile is 100% owned by Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Group and is the UK's first mobile virtual operator, it uses T-Mobile's network. It just 'rents' space on the T-Mobile network, for want of better words, like Sky rent space off Astra.

22-04-2004, 20:08	#7
rivaldo11 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 27	virgin sims work in tmobile phones but tmobile sims dont work on virgin phones.

22-04-2004, 20:22	#8
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	Yeah, strange that!

24-04-2004, 00:31	#9
Papyrus Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,809	Quote: Originally Posted by Alex Hudson Is it me or are T-Mob. and Virgin Mobile the same company? Alex Hi Alex, how many VCRs do you own?

24-04-2004, 20:15	#11
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	I think Papyrus, was trying to imply, aren't all VCRs made by JVC?

24-04-2004, 21:22	#12
kentboy Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by BexTech I think Papyrus, was trying to imply, aren't all VCRs made by JVC? Call me a pillock but, maybe I'm, losing the plot but - VCR's are made by various manafacturers. What was he implying? Alex

24-04-2004, 21:26	#13
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	JVC invented the VHS VCR. Saying T-Mobile and Virgin are the same company, is like saying all your VCRs are made by JVC.

24-04-2004, 22:23	#14
DVB Cornwall Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,930	Right this is a bit complicated .... There are two types of mobile operator Physical Operators (5 in the UK) MMO2 Vodafone T Mobile Orange and Three and Virtual operators examples Tesco Sainsbury Virgin BT Mobile The difference is that the Physical operators actually own the network infrastructure. The Virtual operators don't they buy capacity on other networks in bulk. Virgin and BT Mobile both do this using T-Mobile's network. Hope that helps.

25-04-2004, 12:43	#15
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by DVB Cornwall Right this is a bit complicated .... There are two types of mobile operator Physical Operators (5 in the UK) MMO2 Vodafone T Mobile Orange and Three and Virtual operators examples Tesco Sainsbury Virgin BT Mobile The difference is that the Physical operators actually own the network infrastructure. The Virtual operators don't they buy capacity on other networks in bulk. Virgin and BT Mobile both do this using T-Mobile's network. Hope that helps. When since has Sainsbury's had a network? And you forgot Fresh & One.Tel!!

25-04-2004, 13:07	#16
sean2003 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reading Posts: 2,618	Quote: Originally Posted by CoolSteven427 When since has Sainsbury's had a network? And you forgot Fresh & One.Tel!! wow , they have , don't give much away though! http://www.sainsburystelecom.co.uk/c...tproducts-Main

25-04-2004, 22:46	#18
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by sean2003 wow , they have , don't give much away though! http://www.sainsburystelecom.co.uk/c...tproducts-Main Do you actually get a different network or do you just get an o2 sim card with the phones?

25-04-2004, 23:10	#19
Mikey_TM Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Midlands Posts: 284	Whenever you buy a phone, on pay as you go or pay monthly, you will be connected to the service. The SIM card will be in the phone. Many phones are locked to the network. You can't use other SIM cards on different networks. Phone operators charge to unlock your phone but it is best to go to a local phone shop who deals with SIM unlocks usually priced from a fiver.

29-04-2004, 16:15	#21
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	Yes you can put a Virgin SIM in a T-Mobile(One2One) phone, but can not put a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone. I have not tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone myself, but have been told on many occasions it can't be done, unless unlocked. But I have put a Virgin SIM into a T-Mobile phone, and so have a few of my friends and family and they have all worked fine.

29-04-2004, 17:06	#22
lukeh2003 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Here and there Posts: 346	Quote: Originally Posted by BexTech I have not tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in a Virgin phone myself, but have been told on many occasions it can't be done, unless unlocked. I have always found I could put sim cards from any network into a virgin phone... or maybe thats just me being lucky

29-04-2004, 17:19	#23
BexTech Banned User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Back where I belong. Posts: 12,574	I know the Carphone Warehouse were selling some Virgin Mobiles that were not locked, don't know when from and if they still are.

29-04-2004, 17:19	#24
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	Quote: Originally Posted by lukeh2003 I have always found I could put sim cards from any network into a virgin phone... or maybe thats just me being lucky Did you by any chance buy your phone from The Carphone Warehouse? as their phones are always unlocked as they just give you a phone and they give you a joining pack with it for what network you want it on.

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Aren't Virgin Mobile and T-Mobile the same company?

29-04-2004, 17:20	#25
Steven L Hunter Guest Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,517	oops sorry posted at the same time lol