I disagree with you, how can it be premature when the show has been on for 2 months, and only 3 episodes left till the final ?? It's clear Mikey won't make a drastic improvement between now and then, and is certainly now the weakest skater in the competition. I think he should be gone next week...

I wouldn't get your hopes up!

I think by week 8 Coleen was certainly on a higher score than 13.5 ?? And going by the performance last night, I'd much rather watch Coleen than that rubbish There is having the ability...but if you can't show it off in the live shows, what is the point ?

I'm just saying.....leaving Emily out of it, I think it's crazy that we nearly lost Daniella yesterday when somebody like Mikey is still in the competition. I'd MUCH rather watch Daniella than Mikey any day, and the fact that she is in the bottom 2 is crazy !!

Well, there is no accounting for taste, is there. I'm generally not going by the marks of previous years (e.g. I only look at them in the context of this year's competition). I also think they started to overmark Coleen last year, to avoid the sympathy backlash).

With regards to Mikey, imagine the same thing (a fall before the show) happened to Hayley, and she performs really badly. Would you want her to leave because of that? Also, although I know lifts etc. and everything are difficult for the girls, if a boy has a fall and loses his confidence, he is not only responsible for himself, but also for his professional partner. The professional girls must worry quite a bit. I think that girls have a slight advantage there. Mikey probably was concerned (as was Kieron after his wobble) that he might drop his professional partner.

Ok - your first point is fair.

BUT - if the exact same thing happened to Hayley, then it WOULD just be all down to the fall that upset her final performance, however we have seen evidence since week 1 of Hayley really going for it, and pulling off some cracking routines (and being top week after week after week) Mikey, on the other hand has had low scores, not been the best of skaters, not did a lot of lifts and looks really unsteady on the ice. At least Coleen could disguise this fact being being lifted, and having her male partner to hold on to.

That's exactly my point. She could disguise it and the boys can't. I didn't mean to imply that this would happen to Hayley by the way. She has already shown that she is quite capable of picking herself up after a nasty fall during a performance, and to get on with it (the Mikey incidence should show people that her carrying on after her fall during the show was actually quite good). I just tried to get you to see it from Mikey's fans point of view.

It probably sounds like people making a lot of excuses for Mikey, but he has had a rough time. I don't think we have seen the best of him yet. Maybe we will, maybe we won't. However, he has shown in some of his earlier routines that he is quite capable.

What I meant by premature was that many people on this thread seem to be blaming Mikey for putting out better skaters. Imo he hasn't yet and it's a bit premature to blame him for something that may not happen. To say he hasn't improved since week 1 is a bit silly - his score last week and the week before was better than his week one score and his best score came in week 4. That score, incidentally, was 20.5 and it's better than anything anyone who was voted out before him could manage by 2 clear points.

Mikey does look to be going backwards and if he does so again this week (and I'm not holding my breath for a great routine) then, yes, he'll deserve to go and people can start feeling aggrieved. However, it hasn't happened yet and it may not do. It is possible that he could pull out a good routine on Sunday (as I said, I'm not holding my breath but it is possible) and it's also possible that if he doesn't, his support may collapse (unlikely but possible ). Why doesn't everyone wait and see before making OTT claims like Mikey being worse than Coleen or as bad as Dr Hilary and castigating him for crimes that have yet to be committed?

Not seeing the potential. He had a massivly positive VT with lots of talk about stepping up following a consensus lst week about his lifts being unambitious and then he still had an empty routine with lifts that staggered to knee height. His acting is also less impressive than anyone left now. He's more fault prone than anyone too. Either there's a health limitation or a problem or T and D are giving him everything he can't do.

I agree there's two problems at least at work because Daniella ought to have more votes in the same way as he should be nowhere near the top of the vote. That still leaves the problem though that Mikey seems immune from the dance off and from now on its going to be Kieron, Danny , Daniella, Gary or Hayley herself going before we find out who the competition to Hayley really is.

Yes,i agree with lach doch mal that we haven't seen the best of Mikey yet.He's got alot more to give & hopefully if things don't go wrong before the show again,he will deliver.His 2nd & esp his 3rd dance were great.That 3rd dance to Cecilia has been my dance of the series so far.Mikey has had his confidence knocked with falls & i just hope he can get back to where he should be on Sunday has he deserves to stay in longer.
Also,i like Danny,but for the last 2 weeks before yesterday,Mikey had higher marks than him.

Well Emily had improved significantly. Who knows how far she would have got. Last night she was up there close to the front runnners in my view

Well said..we still think & hope that Mikey gets to the final like he deserves to be. But that depends on whether he can sort himself out this week. Voted for him last night as he didn't deserve to go out due to injury adn we still find him to be one of the best skaters and entertaining performers.

The best is yet to come from Mikey.

If was a bit of a farce he is still there. He had injured himself but many of the others had.

His perfomances have been consistantly poor.

Emilly really raised her game last night and I would have rated her about fourth on that performance

Was about to come on and post my opinion on the subject but there's no need - you summed it up brilliantly.

I think wait and see what happens this week before castigating Mikey and his fans (I will admit, this includes me!) for what might happen.

No Coleen could never disguise the fact she was absolutely rubbish at skating even with the benefit of being lifted and held up - she just had an army of rabid fans that voted for her in response to her begging on a daily basis for votes. Mikey is leagues ahead in terms of ability but has had a lot of problems and hasn't been able to fulfil his potential. And that fall was really nasty and very confidence sapping right before the show.

I don't think he is potentially better than anyone left in, now that Danny has upped his game, so wouldn't mind if he went next week but he certainly deserved to be there up til now at least.

She improved a lot more than Mikey. Apologies to die hard Mikey fans, but he started off well, but stayed there. Emily started off badly but improved a lot. I just hope that Mikey doesn't knock out my Danny.

I completely understand your point, however you can't blame Coleen for being a female and having the advantage of being able to be lifted. Mikey is at a disadvantage, as he needs to master skating before he can lift his partner, however the performance yesterday, and the fact he does not do many lifts at all...proves to me that he hasn't mastered the basic skills, and therefore will never improve significantly enough to win this show.

I think if Mikey is dire again next week then I can't see him getting voted through continually - the floating voters wont through votes his way. Mikey had an exceptionally bad night yesterday and I think if he continues then he should be out.

However I dont think people can begrudge voters giving him the sympathy vote for 1 week.

You know, I actually think i've read a thousand times on here "not seen the best of Mikey yet" Do you not think he should get a move on and come up with something decent ?? There is 3 weeks left until the final, how is he going to miraculously improve enough to even come close to Danny, Gary, Daniella and especially Hayley and Kieron. It's not going to happen, and if he pulls out another rubbish performance next week, his time HAS to be up....surely !

Daniella was in the skate-off yesterday, and could easily have gone (she got 1 vote to leave!)

I rest my case...

Daniella fans should've voted for her then and she should've done a clearner skate in the SO as she was all over the place in certain moments

Yes, she should have gone yesterday, Emily performed better on both occasions, it just shows how pointless the skate-off is.

I don't think anybody can criticize Daniella's skating after the mess Mikey managed to produce.

I think Daniella has improved most throughout the competition, and is a strong contender to win....I don't think Emily could ever threat Hayley's chances, and that's why the judges decided to save Daniella.

But your right, Daniella was worst in the skate off, and if the rules were like Phillip says...she should have left.

But she is still there. Besides, she was in the bottom two because not enough people voted for her. If people don't want her to go out, they will have to vote for her.