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Vodafone Sure Signal
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Steve™
06-03-2010
Anyone got one of these CLICKY


Low signal at home and was thinking of getting one.

£50 one of charge for it which seems reasonable.
flagpole
06-03-2010
i'm told they're very good.

if you ask for one at upgrade time you might well get a better deal. but you're right £50 seems good value.
paulker
06-03-2010
I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go.
AxeVictim
06-03-2010
They must have reduced the price i could have sworn they were more expensive that.In our house i go from 2 bars to no service depending on what room im in

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-vodaphone-...item3a5866b5bb
flagpole
06-03-2010
Originally Posted by paulker:
“I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go.”

you don't happen to have a router with QoS do you?
imagegrill
06-03-2010
so a femto cell then....

This is rich, they are charging you to make their network better....... These should be given out free in network dead spots. Or at least the calls made on them half the cost!
bob187
06-03-2010
Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal?

If so, that's not really cricket, seeing as you are effectively making a VOIP call using your own equipment, at least until it leaves the vodafone network.
Thine Wonk
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by bob187:
“Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal?
”

Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well!

Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality.
legends wear 7
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well!

Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality.”

Not strictly true, you pay £50 because you don't have ANY acceptable mobile signal, the product has not been marketed as a device to fill VF only holes in coverage, its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network.

In this instance VF are the only network that can guarantee a signal for you, personally i think its a great product nd good value for £50, i remember the days when WIFI routers were just kicking off, my first one supplied by the ISP cost me over £100.

I'm sure at some point in future the sure signal will be free, i'd have thought VF will bundle it with WIFI routers for broadband services.
flagpole
07-03-2010
it's not like they are making you buy it.
bob187
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“it's not like they are making you buy it.”

No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it.

That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live.
legends wear 7
07-03-2010
Originally Posted by bob187:
“No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it.

That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live.”


Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.
Steve™
08-03-2010
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.”


I agree - its a very innovative product at a great price. Even on pay as you go its £120 which is still a great price.

If you live in a black spot it has to be worth it.
r_mitchell85
08-03-2010
Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable?
Steve™
08-03-2010
Originally Posted by r_mitchell85:
“Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable?”



I live in a rural area and get 5mbit.....


I am sure most people with BB get at least enough speed to use the Vodafone VOIP 3G service...
pinhead9810
10-03-2010
I got one and have to say that it is brilliant....not had many issues with & I get full 3G signal, which is excellent.
AxeVictim
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
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The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.
.”

It only works with Vodafone tho.

"Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks?

It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK.
"
Steve™
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.”

Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“It only works with Vodafone tho.

"Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks?

It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK.
"”

It only needs to work with Vodafone. If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.
AxeVictim
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by Steve™:
“If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.”

It doesnt work on other networks thats my point.
Steve™
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“It doesnt work on other networks thats my point.”


If you have another network with a better signal why would you need it?!

As I said, if you live in a rural area or area with fringe coverage then its a perfect way to get full reception on a mobile.

Why is this so difficult to understand?!!!!!
AxeVictim
10-03-2010
Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!!
Steve™
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!!”


Which posts? Be specific.

I cant see any saying that.
AxeVictim
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by legends wear 7:
“ its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network.”

Originally Posted by Steve™:
“ If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.”

Originally Posted by Steve™:
“Which posts? Be specific.

I cant see any saying that.”

Are you blind you even said it yourself !
Steve™
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by AxeVictim:
“Are you blind you even said it yourself !”


You clearly dont get it, so let me clarify for you.

Vodafone is currently the only network offering this and noone is suggesting that it is compatible with all networks, we are simply saying that if you live in an area where you get no signal or a low signal on any network then the Sure Signal gives you a network that does work.

Where I live you dont get a great signal from any network, they are all equally as bad, but were I not on Vodafone already I would switch so that I could get a full signal.

I really dont see how you cannot understand what everyone is saying
Aye Up
11-03-2010
Whilst I see this as a effective solution to an otherwise unmitigated problem, users imho shouldn't have to pay a one off fee to get such a service. I see UMA as the best option going forward since it is all device based and will allow individuals the freedom to improve Call/SMS reception anywhere in range of a Wireless Hotspot. Orange so far is the only network that offers this on their Blackberrys, it is being heavily pushed at the moment as a cheaper alternative to the Suresignal.

If operators and manufacturers acturally embraced UMA they would find overheads reduced and am improved experience for end users.

But we live in a dream world. I know some time back orange was considering bundling femtocells with their livebox router, whether anything came of this I can't say.
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