Vodafone Sure Signal

Steve™ · 06-03-2010, 13:02

Anyone got one of these CLICKY

Low signal at home and was thinking of getting one.

£50 one of charge for it which seems reasonable.

flagpole · 06-03-2010, 13:09

i'm told they're very good.

if you ask for one at upgrade time you might well get a better deal. but you're right £50 seems good value.

paulker · 06-03-2010, 16:03

I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go.

AxeVictim · 06-03-2010, 16:20

They must have reduced the price i could have sworn they were more expensive that.In our house i go from 2 bars to no service depending on what room im in

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-vodaphone-...item3a5866b5bb

flagpole · 06-03-2010, 16:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulker

I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go.

you don't happen to have a router with QoS do you?

imagegrill · 06-03-2010, 17:26

so a femto cell then....

This is rich, they are charging you to make their network better....... These should be given out free in network dead spots. Or at least the calls made on them half the cost!

bob187 · 06-03-2010, 21:58

Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal?

If so, that's not really cricket, seeing as you are effectively making a VOIP call using your own equipment, at least until it leaves the vodafone network.

Thine Wonk · 07-03-2010, 03:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob187

Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal?

Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well!

Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality.

legends wear 7 · 07-03-2010, 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well!

Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality.

Not strictly true, you pay £50 because you don't have ANY acceptable mobile signal, the product has not been marketed as a device to fill VF only holes in coverage, its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network.

In this instance VF are the only network that can guarantee a signal for you, personally i think its a great product nd good value for £50, i remember the days when WIFI routers were just kicking off, my first one supplied by the ISP cost me over £100.

I'm sure at some point in future the sure signal will be free, i'd have thought VF will bundle it with WIFI routers for broadband services.

flagpole · 07-03-2010, 10:50

it's not like they are making you buy it.

bob187 · 07-03-2010, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

it's not like they are making you buy it.

No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it.

That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live.

legends wear 7 · 07-03-2010, 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob187

No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it.

That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live.

Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.

Steve™ · 08-03-2010, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by legends wear 7

Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.

I agree - its a very innovative product at a great price. Even on pay as you go its £120 which is still a great price.

If you live in a black spot it has to be worth it.

r_mitchell85 · 08-03-2010, 17:59

Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable?

Steve™ · 08-03-2010, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by r_mitchell85

Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable?

I live in a rural area and get 5mbit.....

I am sure most people with BB get at least enough speed to use the Vodafone VOIP 3G service...

pinhead9810 · 10-03-2010, 18:27

I got one and have to say that it is brilliant....not had many issues with & I get full 3G signal, which is excellent.

AxeVictim · 10-03-2010, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by legends wear 7

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.
.

It only works with Vodafone tho.

"Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks?

It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK.
"

Steve™ · 10-03-2010, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by legends wear 7

Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network.

The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks.

So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge.

The cost to VF is more than £50.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxeVictim

It only works with Vodafone tho.

"Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks?

It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK.
"

It only needs to work with Vodafone. If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.

AxeVictim · 10-03-2010, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.

It doesnt work on other networks thats my point.

Steve™ · 10-03-2010, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxeVictim

It doesnt work on other networks thats my point.

If you have another network with a better signal why would you need it?!

As I said, if you live in a rural area or area with fringe coverage then its a perfect way to get full reception on a mobile.

Why is this so difficult to understand?!!!!!

AxeVictim · 10-03-2010, 20:39

Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!!

Steve™ · 10-03-2010, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxeVictim

Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!!

Which posts? Be specific.

I cant see any saying that.

AxeVictim · 11-03-2010, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by legends wear 7

its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve™

Which posts? Be specific.

I cant see any saying that.

Are you blind you even said it yourself !

Steve™ · 11-03-2010, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxeVictim

Are you blind you even said it yourself !

You clearly dont get it, so let me clarify for you.

Vodafone is currently the only network offering this and noone is suggesting that it is compatible with all networks, we are simply saying that if you live in an area where you get no signal or a low signal on any network then the Sure Signal gives you a network that does work.

Where I live you dont get a great signal from any network, they are all equally as bad, but were I not on Vodafone already I would switch so that I could get a full signal.

I really dont see how you cannot understand what everyone is saying

Aye Up · 11-03-2010, 17:22

Whilst I see this as a effective solution to an otherwise unmitigated problem, users imho shouldn't have to pay a one off fee to get such a service. I see UMA as the best option going forward since it is all device based and will allow individuals the freedom to improve Call/SMS reception anywhere in range of a Wireless Hotspot. Orange so far is the only network that offers this on their Blackberrys, it is being heavily pushed at the moment as a cheaper alternative to the Suresignal.

If operators and manufacturers acturally embraced UMA they would find overheads reduced and am improved experience for end users.

But we live in a dream world. I know some time back orange was considering bundling femtocells with their livebox router, whether anything came of this I can't say.

06-03-2010, 13:02	#1
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06-03-2010, 13:09	#2
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	i'm told they're very good. if you ask for one at upgrade time you might well get a better deal. but you're right £50 seems good value.

06-03-2010, 16:03	#3
paulker Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 901	I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go.

06-03-2010, 16:20	#4
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	They must have reduced the price i could have sworn they were more expensive that.In our house i go from 2 bars to no service depending on what room im in http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-vodaphone-...item3a5866b5bb

06-03-2010, 16:49	#5
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	Quote: Originally Posted by paulker I have one at work. The signal at work is actually ok but the reason I use it is because it makes the call quality on a par with a landline if not better. I use it to make all my busines calls at my desk. Its a great little gadget. I wish all the networks would use it. The only downside is that if files are being uploaded on your broadband network there is no bandwidth left for the call and the caller cannot here you. You can also add £5 per month onto your bill for a year instead of paying for it in a one go. you don't happen to have a router with QoS do you?

06-03-2010, 17:26	#6
imagegrill Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 307	so a femto cell then.... This is rich, they are charging you to make their network better....... These should be given out free in network dead spots. Or at least the calls made on them half the cost!

06-03-2010, 21:58	#7
bob187 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,127	Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal? If so, that's not really cricket, seeing as you are effectively making a VOIP call using your own equipment, at least until it leaves the vodafone network.

07-03-2010, 03:54	#8
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by bob187 Do you still get charged at your normal call rate for calls made while connected to the Sure Signal? Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well! Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality.

07-03-2010, 07:59	#9
legends wear 7 Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,070	Quote: Originally Posted by Thine Wonk Yes, you do! So essentially you pay £50 or £5 a month because you don't have a very good signal on Vodafone and use your own broadband connection as well! Really to be honest there is more to the cost as well because if you download a lot then the calls are going to be affected and you'll need to go out and spend another £50 on a router that supports Quality of Service in order to prioritise the voice packets and avoid the calls sounding like you're on the moon i.e delay / quality. Not strictly true, you pay £50 because you don't have ANY acceptable mobile signal, the product has not been marketed as a device to fill VF only holes in coverage, its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network. In this instance VF are the only network that can guarantee a signal for you, personally i think its a great product nd good value for £50, i remember the days when WIFI routers were just kicking off, my first one supplied by the ISP cost me over £100. I'm sure at some point in future the sure signal will be free, i'd have thought VF will bundle it with WIFI routers for broadband services.

07-03-2010, 10:50	#10
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	it's not like they are making you buy it.

07-03-2010, 14:56	#11
bob187 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,127	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole it's not like they are making you buy it. No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it. That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live.

07-03-2010, 15:58	#12
legends wear 7 Guest Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,070	Quote: Originally Posted by bob187 No, but they charge you for it, and then they save a significant amount of money on any calls you make using it. That's hardly fair considering the only reason you had to buy one in the first place is that their network doesn't cover where you live. Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network. The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks. So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge. The cost to VF is more than £50.

08-03-2010, 14:27	#13
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by legends wear 7 Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network. The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks. So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge. The cost to VF is more than £50. I agree - its a very innovative product at a great price. Even on pay as you go its £120 which is still a great price. If you live in a black spot it has to be worth it.

08-03-2010, 17:59	#14
r_mitchell85 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,884	Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable?

08-03-2010, 18:12	#15
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by r_mitchell85 Surely a high proportion of people who are unable to get an acceptable mobile signal are in rural areas - where broadband is quite often unavailable? I live in a rural area and get 5mbit..... I am sure most people with BB get at least enough speed to use the Vodafone VOIP 3G service...

10-03-2010, 18:27	#16
pinhead9810 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: East London Posts: 199	I got one and have to say that it is brilliant....not had many issues with & I get full 3G signal, which is excellent.

10-03-2010, 19:27	#17
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by legends wear 7 The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks. . It only works with Vodafone tho. "Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks? It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK. "

10-03-2010, 19:34	#18
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by legends wear 7 Is it really difficult to understand, if it was only their network that was bad in your area, then you simply go to another network. The Sure Signal has been marketed as an option for people, who get poor signal from any of the networks. So i think its great that Vodafone have produced the product, and i see no issues with the £50 charge. The cost to VF is more than £50. Quote: Originally Posted by AxeVictim It only works with Vodafone tho. "Will Sure Signal work with phones on other networks? It’s unique to Vodafone, so it won’t work with any other operator’s SIMs, or outside the UK. " It only needs to work with Vodafone. If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution.

10-03-2010, 20:32	#19
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by Steve™ If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution. It doesnt work on other networks thats my point.

10-03-2010, 20:38	#20
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by AxeVictim It doesnt work on other networks thats my point. If you have another network with a better signal why would you need it?! As I said, if you live in a rural area or area with fringe coverage then its a perfect way to get full reception on a mobile. Why is this so difficult to understand?!!!!!

10-03-2010, 20:39	#21
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!!

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10-03-2010, 20:49	#22
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by AxeVictim Because the posts above are implying this thing will work on other networks !!! Which posts? Be specific. I cant see any saying that.

11-03-2010, 15:29	#23
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by legends wear 7 its clearly IMO been marketed where you struggle to get a signal from any network. Quote: Originally Posted by Steve™ If you get a poor signal on Vodafone or ANY of the networks, its a very effective solution. Quote: Originally Posted by Steve™ Which posts? Be specific. I cant see any saying that. Are you blind you even said it yourself !

11-03-2010, 15:54	#24
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by AxeVictim Are you blind you even said it yourself ! You clearly dont get it, so let me clarify for you. Vodafone is currently the only network offering this and noone is suggesting that it is compatible with all networks, we are simply saying that if you live in an area where you get no signal or a low signal on any network then the Sure Signal gives you a network that does work. Where I live you dont get a great signal from any network, they are all equally as bad, but were I not on Vodafone already I would switch so that I could get a full signal. I really dont see how you cannot understand what everyone is saying

11-03-2010, 17:22	#25
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Whilst I see this as a effective solution to an otherwise unmitigated problem, users imho shouldn't have to pay a one off fee to get such a service. I see UMA as the best option going forward since it is all device based and will allow individuals the freedom to improve Call/SMS reception anywhere in range of a Wireless Hotspot. Orange so far is the only network that offers this on their Blackberrys, it is being heavily pushed at the moment as a cheaper alternative to the Suresignal. If operators and manufacturers acturally embraced UMA they would find overheads reduced and am improved experience for end users. But we live in a dream world. I know some time back orange was considering bundling femtocells with their livebox router, whether anything came of this I can't say.