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Old 07-03-2010, 17:14
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I like Danny. I have supported him from the very second week of DOI. He got a lot of stick on here in the 1st week. People called him cocky (all he did was be confident). Last week when Coleen asked Emma who she thought would go, she immedietly said it would be Danny without even thinking. I personally really cant see why people like Mikey. I can't stand his dancing, skating and he always looks so uncomfortable.
I agree about Mikey always looking uncomfortable and so does Kieron. Kieron is so desperate to win, he tries to attempt moves that are too difficult for him instead of learning to do basic skating first.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:15
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I agree about Mikey always looking uncomfortable and so does Kieron. Kieron is so desperate to win, he tries to attempt moves that are too difficult for him instead of learning to do basic skating first.
How can you complain about people being "horrible" to Hayley & then make comments like this?
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:18
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Kieron is so desperate to win, he tries to attempt moves that are too difficult for him instead of learning to do basic skating first.
Wow, what a nasty, bitter comment.

Kieron doesn't choose the moves he does, Chris and Jayne do. You're having a go at him for trying (and generally succeeding) in the tricky bits of skating he's given to do. He's done a lot more basic (and tricky) actual skating than someone like Hayley has done - to criticise him for that is just stupid.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:20
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How can you complain about people being "horrible" to Hayley & then make comments like this?
I am not being "horrible", both Mikey and Kieron look uncomfortable on the ice to me, I always think they are going to fall over. Perhaps if Kieron didn't try the impossible he might come over a little better and his overall performance might improve. That's why he is not getting the votes because it is all tricks and no performance.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:21
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I am not being "horrible", both Mikey and Kieron look uncomfortable on the ice to me, I always think they are going to fall over. Perhaps if Kieron didn't try the impossible he might come over a little better and his overall performance might improve. That's why he is not getting the votes because it is all tricks and no performance.
I was talking about the "desperate" comment.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:21
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Wow, what a nasty, bitter comment.

Kieron doesn't choose the moves he does, Chris and Jayne do. You're having a go at him for trying (and generally succeeding) in the tricky bits of skating he's given to do. He's done a lot more basic (and tricky) actual skating than someone like Hayley, or Mikey, has done - to criticise him for that is just stupid.
Actually I agree, Kieron is not desperate to win, but he is a joy to watch.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:23
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I just can't warm to Danny and I don't think his skating is that great. Yes he deserved higher than 17 last week but I think he was a bit overmarked. I have to admit I wasn't that big a fan of Kieron either the first couple of weeks but he has really impressed me recently.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:23
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Wow, what a nasty, bitter comment.

Kieron doesn't choose the moves he does, Chris and Jayne do. You're having a go at him for trying (and generally succeeding) in the tricky bits of skating he's given to do. He's done a lot more basic (and tricky) actual skating than someone like Hayley has done - to criticise him for that is just stupid.
My goodness, they are all jumping on me after one little comment. Can noone have an opinion on here anymore.
Anyway Kieron's skating and performance are not getting the votes, so something is wrong isn't it? I quite like Kieron and think he would be much better of trying to improve his overall performance instead of all the difficulty. It does not look attractive and the voters obviously agree with me.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:24
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I was talking about the "desperate" comment.
But it does make him look desperate to me, sorry.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:24
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Wow, what a nasty, bitter comment.

Kieron doesn't choose the moves he does, Chris and Jayne do. You're having a go at him for trying (and generally succeeding) in the tricky bits of skating he's given to do. He's done a lot more basic (and tricky) actual skating than someone like Hayley, or Mikey, has done - to criticise him for that is just stupid.
Indeed, his basic skating seems better than Hayley's, and falling is not uncommon when skating or learning to skate. He deserves credit for taking on a relatively difficult jump.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:26
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But it does make him look desperate to me, sorry.
It shouldn't make him seem any more desperate than Hayley's "performing" makes her look.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:28
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It shouldn't make him seem any more desperate than Hayley's "performing" makes her look.
But this thread is about Kieron and Danny, not Hayley
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:36
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But this thread is about Kieron and Danny, not Hayley
So?

It was also -- by that point -- about seeming desperate, and about "getting the votes". Comparison with other skaters on those points therefore becomes relevant.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:38
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Anyway Kieron's skating and performance are not getting the votes, so something is wrong isn't it? I quite like Kieron and think he would be much better of trying to improve his overall performance instead of all the difficulty. It does not look attractive and the voters obviously agree with me.
He's only been in the skate off once, and that was weeks ago.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:40
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So?

It was also -- by that point -- about seeming desperate, and about "getting the votes". Comparison with other skaters on those points therefore becomes relevant.
I didn't say desperate was bad. Just getting in the way of maybe a great performance.
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Old 07-03-2010, 17:46
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Danny has been in the SO a few times. I'd rather not see him in a SO. Danny is a lovely boy and I still fail to see why people cant warm to him. Perhaps his is not pushy enough and doesn't moan about injuries to make people feel sorry for him. Doesn't have any sob stories. His mum came across nice too on one of the Friday shows. Gary gains popularity by going on about how he'd propose to his GF. Parades his daughter at every opportunity. I suppose some people buy all this sugary sweet stuff. I just cant see the Mikey love. Skill level has plateaued, can see him improving. TBH I think Kieron sufferes the same fate as Danny but is probably more popular because he is pushier.
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:54
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Danny is cute but oh so dumb. I don't think I'd even date him more than a couple of times.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:00
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I agree about Mikey always looking uncomfortable and so does Kieron. Kieron is so desperate to win, he tries to attempt moves that are too difficult for him instead of learning to do basic skating first.
Is he

I admire him trying to do difficult moves rather than playing safe
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:04
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Hmm. I think the difference is in the starting points - Danny started off looking like a good bet and then descended into dullness rather swiftly.

I'm of the opinion that the routines he was given were of uniform dullness until last week, and that his cheeky-chappie character couldn't break through the veneer of 'boring' laid on him by that string of 17 scores. (I'd deny he has no personality - his offering Jason a cuddle was a fab moment ) I think the apathy for Danny will turn into enjoyment now he's started performing a bit better.

Kieron, on the other hand, started off a bit rubbish but clearly had a quality that would keep him going, and he's built on that every week. His rather self-deprecating sense of humour could be construed by some as moaning, but I've always seen it as honesty, which is becoming more apparent each week.

I won't mention the 'J' word, but Kieron's the closest thing to Chris Hollins on ice that you're likely to see, and as such I can totally understand the love for him.
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:19
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I wouldn't say that Kieron really started off as that rubbish though - his first week routine to 'Beat Again' was pretty good really from a skating and performance perspective.

I think it's more that as the field has narrowed, he's stood out more and more as someone doing something different from most of the rest. His routines only really work because it's him and Brianne doing them - if they were given to any of the other couples, they'd be total disasters. (The same is true of most of Hayley's routines, but in a different way obviously). Also, I think people have just warmed to him, his self-depricating, dry sense of humour, and the warmth of his partnership with Brianne. Neither of them were really known before the show started, so it's taken time for people to get to know them.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:36
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Actually Kieron and Danny are my favourite two in the competition, for the sheer determination and persistence they've showed. I admire the risks Kieron has taken even when they've resulted in injuries etc, and they have all taken risks, at least on some level. For example Hayley this week was determined to get four spins in when she was only set three by T&D and after a lot of trying and obvious frustration she did it.
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Old 09-03-2010, 12:40
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Actually Kieron and Danny are my favourite two in the competition, for the sheer determination and persistence they've showed. I admire the risks Kieron has taken even when they've resulted in injuries etc, and they have all taken risks, at least on some level. For example Hayley this week was determined to get four spins in when she was only set three by T&D and after a lot of trying and obvious frustration she did it.
Actually as a set of contestants they are actually really nice this year, and I very much agree with you that everyone is taking risks and pushing themselves without the usual moan-fest. I for instance don't really know who I would like to leave next Sunday (although it depends on the ultimate performance of course).
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Old 09-03-2010, 13:12
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Cannot warm to Danny at all, have found his routinues forgettable and I enjoy Kierons skating more than Dannys - this certainly doesnt mean that I hate Danny at all
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Old 09-03-2010, 13:31
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Actually as a set of contestants they are actually really nice this year, and I very much agree with you that everyone is taking risks and pushing themselves without the usual moan-fest. I for instance don't really know who I would like to leave next Sunday (although it depends on the ultimate performance of course).
I agree. I think we've been left with the best contestants (I liked Mikey too) and I don't mind too much who goes out next. I guess I would be disappointed if it was Keiron, but it's very hard to predict now, and I think it could be any one of them apart from Hayley, who will definitely be put through to the final even if she does find herself in the bottom two before then.
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Old 09-03-2010, 13:33
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I haven't seen hatred towards Danny. I think the first few weeks people may hae been indifferent to him. But he's come on really well the last few weeks and I really enjoyed this week's routine. I've love to see him in the final with Keiron.

There does however seem to be an increasing amount of negative posting against Keiron. Could this be because Robin said he was someone to watch, the tortoise and the hare comment, and that he was singled out as being good.
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