Originally Posted by laur_od:
“The majority of people have at least felt that on the night against who she is against she probably deserved it. A lot of people have said though that if she was against previous 30s, such as music, she might not have got the 6s and have questioned whether she would excel to that degree at that sort of a routine as though she is a great performer she is not as competent a skater as suzanne which is pretty fair on what we've seen (especially the jump) I think. But all have also said that that isnt the standard she's judged against as well, she's judged against others on the night, she isnt up against Suzanne and Ray (unfortunately cos that would be interesting). Other than that people have just been making general comments that although she's great at performance and quite a good skater saying she's the best ever is premature with regards against ray and against Suzanne and Clare. Because although Hayley is a good skater Suzanne and Clare at this point were stronger and that Hayley needs to progress here more in the future and that her performance is alot stronger than her skating. People have also pointed out though that all the girls are different and all deserve to stand alone and it's impossible and somewhat unfair to compare them and people should just love music and jai ho as they are. I think thats been it really? All very civilised and people giving constructive criticism.”
That's been my line anyway;
Hayleys routine? I thought it was very good
Deserved 30 on the night against who she was against? yeah probably, she isnt against much and they gave gary a 5
Was it the best routine ever (as some people said so i responded)? In my opinion no, i thought other routines that have got 30 have been better.
Does this make a difference? nope cos she isnt against suzanne and ray.
Is Hayley the best ever? I personally think Ray's better
Is she the best girl? in performance probably but she's not a skater like suzanne and clare, she still wont be by the end either, at least technically (i feel this is adequately illustrated by the jump and her use of edges, that she's quite a good bit behind them in skating at this point)
Does this make a difference? Nope she's not competing with them. If you want to give best ever titles then Suzanne will simply remain the best girl skater, hayley will take the title of best performer. Clare will also be a better skater. They're all different and arent actually competiting with each other anyway. Hayley being a better performer doesnt affect suzannes title, nor will suzanne being a better skater damage hayleys chances...
Again as mentioned comparision to other routines and contestants only came up when I was responding (hopefully politely) to others.