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Daniella should have gone, IMO |
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I agree, he did the better performance but she is one of the favourites and I think they will keep saving her. It is just all so fixed, it has taken the enjoyment out of it now.
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I agree - Daniella should have gone.
She was not fluid or smooth in her skating. Mikey skated much more on his own - Daniella did none on her own. Mikey's required element was spot on - Daniella botched it. What's the point in having the required element at all if you can get away with practically not doing it? |
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yeah but daniella has the potential to pull out some amazing performances but mikey not really.
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I thought Daniella should have gone too. The word required as in required element means that it must be there, they have been ordered to include it in their routine. Therefore if someone doesn't do it then that should be a fail. As another poster said, what's the point of making them do a required element when they won't be punished for not doing it?!
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I thought Daniella should have gone too. The word required as in required element means that it must be there, they have been ordered to include it in their routine. Therefore if someone doesn't do it then that should be a fail. As another poster said, what's the point of making them do a required element when they won't be punished for not doing it?!
(She did include the spin, btw; she just didn't quite do enough rotations.) Besides, Daniella was next to last on the leader-board and ended up in the dance-off. What more are they really supposed to do to her? Then she did the required element in the dance-off. I do think it's a little strange that the judges saved her rather than Mikey, but what would be the reason to save Mikey? That his skating was better. However, it would be completely unreasonable for the show to put lifts in routines and then not have them count when it comes to marking. When the routines and performances are looked at overall, there is a case for saving Daniella, and the judges' vote was a close to tied as it can get. |
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Who knows why Daniella was saved, but I am glad she was. Perhaps Mikey wanted to go and the judges knew that.
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Watching last nights result show, it was clear that Daniella should have been the one who went.
True, Mikey is not one of the best skaters we have this series but his routine was so much better plus he skated a lot of it on his own, did the lifts properly and performed the required element to perfection! Daniella on the other hand was mostly pulled around by her partner and didnt have to do any lifts and her required element was almost none existent. It looked like she only put in the routine because she had to (at the very end). Plus, the viewers have now put her in the bottom two twice in a row, so its clear she's not getting enough votes. For once I agreed with Jason and Nicky - Jason got it right by saying that the required element should be performed without any mistakes and Mikey did it, yet he was the one who paid the price. Felt as if last night was unfair and that Mikey should have been given another chance based on the skate off alone (this is coming from someone who's not a Mikey fan).. ![]() Opinions? Mikey was clearly the worst. I have no issues with him going. His skate off performance was one of his personal best but he is a long way behind the rest and has made little progress |
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Watching last nights result show, it was clear that Daniella should have been the one who went.
True, Mikey is not one of the best skaters we have this series but his routine was so much better plus he skated a lot of it on his own, did the lifts properly and performed the required element to perfection! Daniella on the other hand was mostly pulled around by her partner and didnt have to do any lifts and her required element was almost none existent. It looked like she only put in the routine because she had to (at the very end). Plus, the viewers have now put her in the bottom two twice in a row, so its clear she's not getting enough votes. For once I agreed with Jason and Nicky - Jason got it right by saying that the required element should be performed without any mistakes and Mikey did it, yet he was the one who paid the price. Felt as if last night was unfair and that Mikey should have been given another chance based on the skate off alone (this is coming from someone who's not a Mikey fan).. ![]() Opinions? I agree with you. I don't have a favourite this series, although I am warming to Keiron And I like Daniella, and keiron's personalities, but find Hayley's personality a bit off putting.Hayley's performance on the ice with Dan was an amazing routine, I loved it. I also loved Keiron's, but wasn't so enamoured with Daniella's, who seems to have lost her spark, and now others have caught up with her performancewise. In the skate off, we are always told forget past skatings, it is the skate off one that counts now, and clearly it was not with Emma for her friend, and Robin, who blatantly said he was not judging on the skate off alone, very unprofessional imo Jason I would say is more of a Daniella fan then he is of Mikey, but at least saw fit to judge on the skate off performance, and as much as I hoped Mikey would go before the skate off, once seeing the skate off, he should have stayed.I suppose his saving grace was he was very accepting of the marking, and he went off on one off his best performances and that he would probably not have progressed much further in the competition, and he can also rib Ronan that he went out on one of his songs Well done to Mikey for that skate off rountine, but Daniella needs to up her game if she wants to make the semi final of the show at least, when they start with the props if she is still there, I have a feeling she might struggle then. |
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Mikey was fortunate to avoid the skate off last week.
It was close; it wasn't one of Danniella's better performances, but if Danniella was being "pulled around", let's not forget that the most memorable part of Mikey's routine was watching Mel execute a perfect spin. Yes, Mikey's spin was better than Danniella's but he's been marked consistently lower than her and he got lower marks than her on the night, too. Whether Danniella will be able to progress from this or has just reached her limit remains to be seen, but I think the right person went. |
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But that's not how required elements work. People don't get thrown out for failing to do them; they just lose points and can still get points for other things in their routine.
(She did include the spin, btw; she just didn't quite do enough rotations.) Besides, Daniella was next to last on the leader-board and ended up in the dance-off. What more are they really supposed to do to her? Then she did the required element in the dance-off. I do think it's a little strange that the judges saved her rather than Mikey, but what would be the reason to save Mikey? That his skating was better. However, it would be completely unreasonable for the show to put lifts in routines and then not have them count when it comes to marking. When the routines and performances are looked at overall, there is a case for saving Daniella, and the judges' vote was a close to tied as it can get. Then out of nowhere she did it (and that too not done wholeheartedly).I thought the skate off is supposed to be based on that skating alone - not how well they've skated before, so based on the rules - Mikey should have stayed! But clearly it wasnt based on rules but how well they've skated before!! |
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He said on This Morning that he was pleased he went.
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I agree with the OP. I said it on Sunday and I've been saying it on various threads since then. I think the only reason they saved Daniella is that if they hadn't, Hayley would have been the only female left in the competition.
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I don't think there was a lot to choose between Mikey and Danniella, both had some big flaws in their performances and were both well behind the others for me.
Mikey did a much better spin, but Danniella gave more in performance terms. Both were quite wobbly in places and neither looked especially confident with their skating. I think either could have gone and I wouldn't have been able to argue with the decision. |
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I agree with the OP. I said it on Sunday and I've been saying it on various threads since then. I think the only reason they saved Daniella is that if they hadn't, Hayley would have been the only female left in the competition.
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I agree - I thought she should have gone.
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And they say it's Hayley that's getting the bashing.
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And they say it's Hayley that's getting the bashing.
Even the icepanel were undecided on whom to send home. I think it's no surprise that people on the forum feel the same. |
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One thread in which people discuss who should have left last week, and in which some people have taken Mikey's side, and some people have taken Daniella's side, and you call that bashing?
Even the icepanel were undecided on whom to send home. I think it's no surprise that people on the forum feel the same. |
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And I like Daniella, and keiron's personalities, but find Hayley's personality a bit off putting.
Jason I would say is more of a Daniella fan then he is of Mikey, but at least saw fit to judge on the skate off performance, and as much as I hoped Mikey would go before the skate off, once seeing the skate off, he should have stayed.
Then out of nowhere she did it (and that too not done wholeheartedly).