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Do they think Jason's the star of the show?
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SliverOfDiamond
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“And that of course plays exactly into his and the producers hands and makes him more valuable to them...”

Or he's costing them a lot of viewers this year. They probably think they're doing the reality tv thing by creating 'controversy', but people are turning off and doing something else.

Has it not occurred to them that the decline in audience has coincided with the increase in "reality trash" on the show? This show and SCD used to be watched by many people who can't bear shows like BB, BGT, and XF, because they were different. Make DOI and SCD like those other three, and you lose those people, like me. This will be the last series that I watch, and even then I'm only watching the skating, I fast forward through the rest, it's rubbish.
Tiger Rose
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by Droog83:
“Ugh... just been looking at Jason's Twitter again (I'm a sucker for punishment)... I seriously wonder if he actually wants to be a DOI judge going off some of the tweets on there. Some of the conversation threads had me

@officialJasonG: Such a glorious Spring day... makes everything so much more bearable when the sun is out. It's put a spring in my step... but for how long?
Someone replied with: enjoy it now, as you have to watch those F-list celebs pissing about on ice later!!
To which he replied LOL thanks for raining on my parade!

Another replied to his original tweet with probably until the first celeb to skate tonight, maybe? hope your well xx
To which he replied Too f**king true!! LOL

Does he begrudge his DOI duties that much? Jason, for what it's worth love, we'd be happy to see the back of you ”

The tweet that really got me was - it's all winter olympics skating talk in the dressing room and I could poke my eyes out!!

The guy obviously hates skating yet is a judge on a skating show. He obviously only does the show for the fame & the money.
claire2281
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“Or he's costing them a lot of viewers this year.”

Or is that simply because the crop of contestants really isn't all that?
SliverOfDiamond
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“The tweet that really got me was - it's all winter olympics skating talk in the dressing room and I could poke my eyes out!!

The guy obviously hates skating yet is a judge on a skating show. He obviously only does the show for the fame & the money.”

I don't think he hates skating, he sounds jealous. The others go back a long way, they've known each other for years, they've been to, competed in, and won medals at, the Olympics. They probably know this year's competitors and their coaches personally. They've done something worthwhile and have been very successful at it, at the top in world competition.

Jason is nothing, he's a choreographer, an unknown outside reality tv. He is the new boy trying to join the party, but is not fitting in and is therefore being left out. He is trying to make some sort of impact, and since he has no sports talent, he's grabbing attention any way he can.

Bit of a saddo really.
SliverOfDiamond
09-03-2010
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Or is that simply because the crop of contestants really isn't all that?”

I don't think they're any worse than last year's (excluding Ray, who was spectacularly good). In fact they were so memorable, that apart from Ray, Donal, Colleen and Todd, I can't actually remember who was on. Lol.
dancingdemelza
10-03-2010
Now he's got the nerve to say the other judges have favourites because they didn't agree with him about the skate off on Saturday:

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/16252...ve-favourites/

Of course, he has never shown favouritism to any competitor, has he?

The one that really sticks in my mind is Bonny Langford being a wonderful skater during the flying episode a few years back, when her feet only touched the ice as maximum of twice.
lach doch mal
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“Now he's got the nerve to say the other judges have favourites because they didn't agree with him about the skate off on Saturday:

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/16252...ve-favourites/

Of course, he has never shown favouritism to any competitor, has he?

The one that really sticks in my mind is Bonny Langford being a wonderful skater during the flying episode a few years back, when her feet only touched the ice as maximum of twice.”

Is he trying to get sacked?
Droog83
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“The tweet that really got me was - it's all winter olympics skating talk in the dressing room and I could poke my eyes out!!

The guy obviously hates skating yet is a judge on a skating show. He obviously only does the show for the fame & the money.”

I noticed this one too, ugh, he has no sense of respect or loyalty to any of his colleagues, it makes me wonder why people like Emma kiss his backside so much


Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“Now he's got the nerve to say the other judges have favourites because they didn't agree with him about the skate off on Saturday:

http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/16252...ve-favourites/

Of course, he has never shown favouritism to any competitor, has he?

The one that really sticks in my mind is Bonny Langford being a wonderful skater during the flying episode a few years back, when her feet only touched the ice as maximum of twice.”

Read this too, honestly the layers of irony and hypocrisy are reaching levels of surreal recursion that would make M.C. Escher's head spin. Have you noticed how he accuses people of things that he himself has recently been accused of? (accused Sharron of disrespect to T&D after being hideously disrespectful to her over fecalgate; accused the judges of hypocrisy and then fans the flames over the Karen / Chris alleged affair despite his earlier 'disrespect to Chris' bitching against Sharron, accuses the judges of favouritism despite blatantly favouring Mikey himself). Honestly. He's projecting like a psychopath!

Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Is he trying to get sacked?”

Ah LDM, we can but hope and pray
CaroUK
10-03-2010
Jason seems to have 2 criteria when judging

1. Anyone who is a dancer by training can do no wrong (e.g. Bonnie, Suzanne, Zaraah and now Hayley
2. Anyone with a sports background can do no right (e.g Kelly, Lee, Steve, Greg and this series Sharron.

He also seems to think that doing the choreo on ice is the same as doing them on a solid wood floor when in fact its a totally different ball game. Simple floor moves can be an absolute nightmare on a narrow blade on a slippery surface - and other floor moves are nigh impossible to do on ice (and vice versa)

HE doesn't seem to have much idea about what is good skating and what is bad skating and makes no allowances for the efforts the celebs have made to deliver their routines. I am astounded when I hear him challenging Nicky and Robin on skating matters - especially when it shows his total ignorance of the skills involved.

From the CV someone else found and published on another thread - Jason's "choreography" qualifications are somewhat dubious - he has done some catwalk/ trade shows and a few adverts - but nothing of any note - and even none of that since 2005.

He is a nasty, rude little man who is jealous of anyone who is more successful than he is (just about all the contestants then?) and seems to get a real kick out of making nasty snide put downs to those who have worked hard all week in the name of entertainmment. Michael Ball was far more constructive in the comments and advice he gave to Sharron - something Jason should have done in week 1 rather than (unhelpfully) telling her she looked as if she was possessed by a tree!

Given his twitter comments - he hates the job and his fellow judges - so why can't the producers put him - and the vast majority of viewers - out of their misery??
Droog83
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Jason seems to have 2 criteria when judging

1. Anyone who is a dancer by training can do no wrong (e.g. Bonnie, Suzanne, Zaraah and now Hayley
2. Anyone with a sports background can do no right (e.g Kelly, Lee, Steve, Greg and this series Sharron.

He also seems to think that doing the choreo on ice is the same as doing them on a solid wood floor when in fact its a totally different ball game. Simple floor moves can be an absolute nightmare on a narrow blade on a slippery surface - and other floor moves are nigh impossible to do on ice (and vice versa)

HE doesn't seem to have much idea about what is good skating and what is bad skating and makes no allowances for the efforts the celebs have made to deliver their routines. I am astounded when I hear him challenging Nicky and Robin on skating matters - especially when it shows his total ignorance of the skills involved.

From the CV someone else found and published on another thread - Jason's "choreography" qualifications are somewhat dubious - he has done some catwalk/ trade shows and a few adverts - but nothing of any note - and even none of that since 2005.

He is a nasty, rude little man who is jealous of anyone who is more successful than he is (just about all the contestants then?) and seems to get a real kick out of making nasty snide put downs to those who have worked hard all week in the name of entertainmment. Michael Ball was far more constructive in the comments and advice he gave to Sharron - something Jason should have done in week 1 rather than (unhelpfully) telling her she looked as if she was possessed by a tree!

Given his twitter comments - he hates the job and his fellow judges - so why can't the producers put him - and the vast majority of viewers - out of their misery??”

Amen CaroUK!! This post sings to my soul, especially the parts in bold!!
lach doch mal
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by Droog83:
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Read this too, honestly the layers of irony and hypocrisy are reaching levels of surreal recursion that would make M.C. Escher's head spin. Have you noticed how he accuses people of things that he himself has recently been accused of? (accused Sharron of disrespect to T&D after being hideously disrespectful to her over fecalgate; accused the judges of hypocrisy and then fans the flames over the Karen / Chris alleged affair despite his earlier 'disrespect to Chris' bitching against Sharron, accuses the judges of favouritism despite blatantly favouring Mikey himself). Honestly. He's projecting like a psychopath!


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Spot on! I still think you are one of my other identities (albeit a much younger and more articulate one.

Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Jason seems to have 2 criteria when judging

1. Anyone who is a dancer by training can do no wrong (e.g. Bonnie, Suzanne, Zaraah and now Hayley
2. Anyone with a sports background can do no right (e.g Kelly, Lee, Steve, Greg and this series Sharron.

He also seems to think that doing the choreo on ice is the same as doing them on a solid wood floor when in fact its a totally different ball game. Simple floor moves can be an absolute nightmare on a narrow blade on a slippery surface - and other floor moves are nigh impossible to do on ice (and vice versa)

HE doesn't seem to have much idea about what is good skating and what is bad skating and makes no allowances for the efforts the celebs have made to deliver their routines. I am astounded when I hear him challenging Nicky and Robin on skating matters - especially when it shows his total ignorance of the skills involved.

From the CV someone else found and published on another thread - Jason's "choreography" qualifications are somewhat dubious - he has done some catwalk/ trade shows and a few adverts - but nothing of any note - and even none of that since 2005.

He is a nasty, rude little man who is jealous of anyone who is more successful than he is (just about all the contestants then?) and seems to get a real kick out of making nasty snide put downs to those who have worked hard all week in the name of entertainmment. Michael Ball was far more constructive in the comments and advice he gave to Sharron - something Jason should have done in week 1 rather than (unhelpfully) telling her she looked as if she was possessed by a tree!

Given his twitter comments - he hates the job and his fellow judges - so why can't the producers put him - and the vast majority of viewers - out of their misery??”

I agree with you on all of these points, but particularly the one in bold. I don't iceskate, but I did quite a bit of inline skating. You are using completely different muscles, and your balance is completely different. He does seem to expect people to perform on the ice the same way as off the ice. Michael Ball was great, as I said before his comment (to Sharron) about lifting her head and being proud of her size were spot on (without him tyring to be funny).
samiskim
10-03-2010
I think it is time Mr. Gardiner was given his P45. He has proven on his Twitter Page that he doesn't rate the judges, he doesn't rate the celebrities, he holds the audience in total contempt and himself in the highest regard.

He is deluded to think the other judges have "favourites" - when he, himself, only favours those who have had a performing arts/stage school education - Bonnie, Hayley etc. etc. He doesn't know a thing about skating and said he wanted to "poke his eyes out" when the Olympics were being discussed in the dressing room.

A highly unpleasant man. He is not interested in skating one iota - and it is time ITV gave him the boot.
Droog83
10-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Spot on! I still think you are one of my other identities (albeit a much younger and more articulate one.”

Heehee I'm you from a parallel dimension! (Been watching to much Lost recently... )


Originally Posted by samiskim:
“He has proven on his Twitter Page that he doesn't rate the judges, he doesn't rate the celebrities, he holds the audience in total contempt and himself in the highest regard.”

Nail. On. The. Head.
dancingdemelza
11-03-2010
His web page is up and running - designed by HIM of course.

Not only does he describe himself as:

TV Judge
Fashion Expert
Choreographer
Songwriter
Performer

but now he's a web designer as well.

http://www.jasongardiner.com/

Had a quick look at some of it, but quickly felt sick at the egofest, so had to close it.
Droog83
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“Had a quick look at some of it, but quickly felt sick at the egofest, so had to close it.”

Ha ha ha I did EXACTLY the same thing. Clicked onto it out of sheer morbid curiostity but could only stomach a cursory glance at the homepage. It gave me too many "when you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you" type feelings.
Tissy
11-03-2010
Excellent post CaroUK .... why on earth ITV thinks he `adds` something to the show I`ll never understand
winenroses
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by Tissy:
“Excellent post CaroUK .... why on earth ITV thinks he `adds` something to the show I`ll never understand ”

I have begun seriously to question their judgement.
samiskim
11-03-2010
Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“His web page is up and running - designed by HIM of course.

Not only does he describe himself as:

TV Judge
Fashion Expert
Choreographer
Songwriter
Performer

but now he's a web designer as well.

http://www.jasongardiner.com/

Had a quick look at some of it, but quickly felt sick at the egofest, so had to close it.”

I felt sick too- he really is an egomaniac with very little reason.
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