5 to favourite, then 4, 3, 2 and 1 for least favourite.

For me:

5 - Robin Cousins
4 - Karen Barber (was favourite until certain newspaper reports)
3- Jason Gardiner
2 - Nicky Slater
1 - Emma Bunton (waste of space really!)

Letting media stuff that hasnt even been proved or confirmed yet affect your opinion is a bit silly to me to be honest.
5. Robin
4. Karen
3. Jason
2. Emma (close between her and Nicky)
1. Nicky

Robin (even though he should have saved Mikey imo, but one mistake does not a crap judge make )
Karen
Nicky
Emma
Jason - Back off Gary!

Robin
Karen (the media stuff is no more than supposition - and even if proved true why should this affect her judgement)?
Nicky
Jason and Emma - both useless - neither would be missed.

Anyone who causes scandal, knowingly or not, whether there is scandal or not, goes down in my opinion. I still like Karen, just now have slightly different opinions on her now. Anyway, my opinion on Robin has steadily risen this series, so coincidence has meant that the two swap places in my mind.

Why on earth should you make a judgement based on media sensationalism?

If the rumours are proved to be nothing but ... rumours - would you still feel judgemental?

Lots of elements of life must come as a real shock to you... Innocent until proven guilty must be a major problem...
Someone who unknowingly causes a scandal when there was never a scandal and still prepared to think less of someone...

A little I admit, but not completely. Chris and Karen have both been in the business long enough to know that, if she gets caught leaving his flat early the next morning, the media are likely to pick up on that and turn it into a story.

So you should avoid everything in life that could possibly be considered a story? Cos the media will write crap that probably only a fraction of the people reading it will believe? All that matters is that her husband knows the truth not the public, if there was nothing in it this will blow over in a matter of days... lol. Silly silly... The media can turn anything into a story, especially on a slow day.

OP why the need to refer to this topic on both threads you started - if not to salivate over salacious gossip?

That's basically what I've asked in the other thread...

I started it on the judges, not Karen. We can talk about another judge if you'd prefer?

Alright then, everyone including yourself please keep this to matters that are actually relevant to judging...

That doesn't make a lot of sense - please explain?

I meant it was started about everyone, not just Karen. Sick of arguing now. Case moved to other thread, as K_evans suggested. I only joined these forums for adult debate about the show and its stars......

Karen
Jason
Nicky
Robin
Emma

We all at least seem to have the same opinion on Emma!

1. Robin
2. Karen
3. Nicky

These are all champion skaters, two of them professional ice dancers and all three know a heck of a lot about the technicalities of what they are watching and an awful lot about choreography for routines ON ICE as well

4. Emma - airhead waste of space with nothing constructive to say
5. Jason - odious little man who thinks insults are funny and clever.

I would be quite happy to see just Robin, Karen and Nicky on the panel next year on their own. If Robin and Nicky who have both choreographed ice shows (in Robin's case HUGE ice shows like Holiday on Ice!) aren't qualified to comment on performance as well I don't know who is.

Save the salaries paid to jason and Emma and use them to get a decent presenter for the Friday show!

I totally agree with you Carol UK, the only reason I can't bring myself to watch the Friday show is because of Coleen. She drove me demented last year

^^^ This multiplied by a million!

I agree, would still keep Jason but bring bak Krez in Emma's place.

1. Robin - The best judge by far!
2. Karen - Good, but too reluctant ever to criticise.
3. Jason - Sometimes just a ****, but also generally marks reasonably, and says the (true) things the others won't.
4. Emma - Lacking in knowledge, but I haven't found her particularly awful in her marks and comments.
5. Nicky - His marking is all over the place, and I don't find his comments very informative at all.

5 Karen
4 Robin
3 Jason
2 Emma
1 Nicky

totally agree 100% couldnt have put it better myself

Robin- Good judge nearly always marks fair.
Jason- Says very nasty comments but he is right with scores.
Karen- Sort of has favourites but marks the rest fair.
Emma- Awful judge her trying to be a bitch and give constructive critism makes me cringe plus she doesn't know a thing about skating. Do we really need a performance judge though?
Nicky- Awful. Marking is shocking. It's like closing your eyes for 2 minutes missing the routine and then pushing a random score then talking a load of crap after it.