Utter twaddle.
I watched the live feeds and both the Channel 4 shows-you are wrong on almost all points(as usual)as they relate to Kate.
I have seen on other posts that you have no credibility and just rant away repeating the same untruths.
There is nothing to stop you of course but hopefully all forums members are aware of you.
(That phrase applied to you by the way)

Good to see the old crowd back ready for the fun and games.

Roll on May 28th.

It is not utter twaddle at all. And I consider EB's posts to have a whole lot more credibility than yours.

You are not the only one who watched C4 and the E4 feeds you know

If it was 'Utter twaddle' as you state, you wouldn't be stressing your point on it so vehemently.

Methinks you protesteth too much

LOL ... it goes without saying that Kate's few fans on DS think that I have no credibilty. Having lost the debates against me, all they can do is make personal attacks as you are doing now.

What I am repeating is the truth. As the truth is the truth, all I can do is repeat it. You'd be really surprised to learn that a lot of folk out there agree with me.

I think there was no particular campaign as such-I think they mentioned it as there had been two previous male winners-stating the obvious.
When Kate appeared to be a possible winner along with a clutch of boys-she was mentioned as a possible winner.
Her popularity waned after a few weeks but then picked up when she coped so well with the poor side and showed incredible energy and enjoyment at being in the house in the final few weeks.
The public voted for her in such significant numbers despite the split vote that she was conclusively the winner.
People whose favourite lost and seek to blame Kate for it seem more likely to be unreliable than the millions who voted .
Just because you write it on a website doesn't mean it is correct.

You seem to think you have won some debate or other-that seems rather odd.
Kate fans are generally comfortable with history and have moved on.
It seems Alex fans cannot and are stuck in some eddy where reality is distorted.
They seem to get regularly roasted with little effort.

It was not a personal attack at all I was simply stating a fact-your odd defences of Jade's behaviour is consistent at least with your equally odd attacks on Kate's behaviour.
Perhaps you should just move on-as all BB contestants seem to have done.

I would be suprised if anyone actually agreed with you apart from the usual suspects who also should move on.

change the record PLEASE bring on BB5

Yes it is.
No they do not.
Stating the obvious.
Why?
No.

I actually think that the thoroughly biased editing in favour of Kate by Endemol/C4 did her the major disservice.

When people saw what she was really like when she came out - dissing Alex, bigging up herself, bad mouthing Jade, slobbering around slappers like Duncan etc - it bore no relationship at all to the sweet natured, tolerant, nice girl next door they thought they had voted for. So they went off her - apart from family and personal friends, of course, who still speak up for her on the boards.

That's the trouble with falsity and manipulation - eventually people see through it.

You are wrong about the editing-I watched most of it and the highlights were generally poor for Kate because a lot of her better moments were never even included.(like when she worked out where Alex had been hiding).In fact I could make a strong case that they did not want her to win because they were editing to make Jade seem better than she really was.(and Alex as well)

Also of course what I did not realise was that the Mirror was anti BB and Kate in particular whilst the Sun was exceptionally strong for Jade in the final 3 weeks.So if there was manipulation it was by outside parties in the press against Kate and this failed to perseaud enough people.I think the main reason was they could see the truth before their eyes on the TV.


Although Cameron was not a favourite of mine he won because the was the most popular of the final 4.
(I had not noticed quite how close it was with Jon -the closest ever but for the Alison/Alex scam-but for the way it worked with the Tickle vote split-Jon would have won)

sweet natured, tolerant, nice girl next door -I agree with dollops of attitude though which is why she is the most highly regarded of the BB contestants in the media.


i do not think they would have the time to bother-it is Alex who has a website to promote himself.kate stays away from it all and gets on with life and building a respected long term career in the media spotlight.

Alex does NOT have a website to promote himself....there is an Alex website which is run by a fan..Alex neither created the site, nor runs it!

Vilt, there are so many things wrong in your post that I could be here all night, and I'm tired, so I'll only respond on two.

The supposed Mirror bias against Kate!! The Mirror criticised ALL contestants - and indeed BB3 itself - but I would remind you that its title for Kate was "Deputy Chief Moron", their "Chief Moron" was Jade. Primarily a bias against Jade I would have thought.

".... most highly regarded of the BB contestants in the media". How are you judging this exactly? I don't have much time for Jade currently, but I think she may well feel she has a case for saying this is nonsense. I think I'd agree with her. :sleep:

walks like a dog, sounds like a dog;looks like a dog

I guess it is a dog.

People here keep saying he is a member and gives regular updates on it.Are they wrong?
Perhaps you could clear up the confusion about the posed bottom shots that Alex's fans keep going on about here-I cannot seem to quieten them down about them.

Kate had several fan sites on the go after BB3. They have all closed due to lack of interest.

A simple search will provide all interested with ample evidence.

Now you know how I feel!

I never saw that-I thought it was "knicker-boiler"because she wanted some clean pants to wear each day.

highly regarded I said(not tolerated) and I mean the whole industry not just tabloids and magazines.
Kate has proved herself as a charismatic accomplished presenter in live TV and Radio-
She chose to choose life.

Jade chose.........................something else.

I agree.
Kate chose for whatever reason not to give them any encouragement at all.
Perhaps she thought it all needed calming down at the time.
It was all a bit much-what did one paper say-(The most famous 22 year old in the country wasn't it-and people outside her house all the time)
And she does not need one-all her stuff is in the general media anyway-which is the main reason for having one
(always found fansites a little odd myself personally--does Jade have one?)

The problem is though that just because you say something - that black is white for instance - doesn't make it so.

Kate was appalling as a presenter - across a range of media. That's why she got the push.

Pity, but there it is.

Alex has very kindly acknowledged the support he has recieved and provided a few prizes for competitions, as any decent, gentleman would..he has nothing to do with the day to day running of the site...nor did he ask for the site to be set up or continued.

I think for Kate to not acknowledge the people who set sites up for her..shows a lack of respect and appriciation ....and is downright rude!

..As to the very tasteful photo of Alex( which was shown in a very respectable magazine) it has already been posted here by Swingaleg!

And it's beautiful, as are all Alex's photographs.

The problem is though that just because you say something - doesn't make it so.

[quote=rosemary]Alex has very kindly acknowledged the support he has recieved and provided a few prizes for competitions, as any decent, gentleman would..he has nothing to do with the day to day running of the site...nor did he ask for the site to be set up or continued. QUOTE]

Isn't Alex Sibley and his mother moderators on his site.?
Also........I dont know if he has let the 7 Angels on his site know this yet. His Tat selling appearence on 'Everything Must Go' is being broadcast on the 2nd of June. We will make a thread about this hilarious money grabbing we like our privacy family nearer the time, for now this little tit-bit of news should keep you happy.

You're right old bean. The fact is that he's an Armani model, no less. So it's not just my opinion - it's actually fact when you really consider it.

[quote=Avolon]
You always quote these strange numbers - 12, 7, whatever. How does that equate to the 300,000+ hits on his website I wonder. And how does it compare to the hits on Kate's website? Oh yes.... I remember now..... it doesn't. Because she doesn't have a website.

Perhaps she should go the Jonny route, and do her own. She could do one for herself and "Woody", that would draw in the fans I'm sure!

Thanks for the info though. We can always rely on you to look out for Alex appearances.

Its called denial. in some cases it seems delusional. The lack of logical cause and effect gets worse and worse. The thesis here is that a few Alex fans voted for Kate because she was a girl (Jade, the favourite according to the Sun , presumably wasn't) - so Kate won by over a million votes and a 50% margin and Jonny (who was not a girl) beat Alex too by another 300k.

Hark, I hear another cuckoo.....

on a slightly related subject-I cannot believe they called that good charlotte programme last night what they did-how did they get away with it.?
Even Iain lee on Ri:se would have thought twice about it-although that smutty Sarah Beany would have loved it.