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Frankie not on tour
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memmh
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“I got the distinct impression it's not Frankie's choice not to be on tour. But I could be wrong on that, of course...”

Originally Posted by Tiger Rose:
“I wonder if Frankie not being invited to tour points to her not being back in the show next year.”

All she said was that she and Danny aren't doing the tour, the lineup's great and she'll definitely go and watch at some point. The reason she's not on the tour this year is probably perfectly innocuous - she was injured during the 2008 tour and had a very bad fall during her pro routine with Dan and Matt in the 2009 tour, so perhaps she'd prefer to take a break than do the tour again. Or perhaps she and/or Danny have other commitments. Or perhaps the producers just wanted to mix things up a bit: none of the other contestants from previous years will be skating with their former pro partners so, if Danny's not doing the tour and they didn't want her to skate with Chris for the 3rd year running, it's possible they didn't have anyone else to pair her with, given that Ray is already skating with Alex.
Xassy
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by icedragon:
“She is a pairs skater rather than an ice dancer.”

Could someone tell me, what is the difference between the two please?
memmh
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“Could someone tell me, what is the difference between the two please?”

I thought Frankie's actually an adagio skater?

See this:

Quote:
“Disciplines

* Singles competition for men and women (who are referred to as "ladies" in ISU rulebooks), wherein skaters perform jumps, spins, step sequences, spirals, and other elements in their programs.

* Pair skating teams consist of a woman and a man. Pairs perform singles elements in unison as well as pair-specific elements such as throw jumps, in which the man 'throws' the woman into a jump; lifts, in which the woman is held above the man's head in one of various grips and positions; pair spins, in which both skaters spin together about a common axis; death spirals; and other elements.

* Ice dancing is again for couples consisting of a woman and a man skating together. Ice dance differs from pairs in focusing on intricate footwork performed in close dance holds, in time with the music. Ice dance lifts must not go above the shoulder.

* Adagio skating, a form of pair skating most commonly seen in ice shows, where the skaters perform many spectacular acrobatic lifts but few or none of the singles elements which competitive pairs must perform.”

icedragon
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by memmh:
“See this:


I thought Frankie's actually an adagio skater?”

She is now but no-one starts off as an adagio skater. I would imagine she was either a singles skater who went in to shows and due to her small stature and her abilities was put in to a pair or was a a pair skater who became an adagio skater when she turned pro.

Ice dancers do a lot of compulsory dance (for tests and competitions) where each couple skates the exact same steps to similar music at set tempos and its all about exact patterns, clean lines, skating to the beat, repeatability and requires great attention to detail.

They also do original dance which these days is almost like a free dance but to a set rhythm but has more rules than free dances. Then they do free dances which also have some set elements (eg need to contain a spin and twizzles these days) but can be any music with a beat.

Pair skaters do a short programme in which they have set elements they must do or be penalised and a long programme in which they can put in more or less anything although there are rules on the number and type of jumps and lifts and they have to include spins etc. They can use any music without words but dont' have the ice dance restriction of skating to the beat rather than the melody.

Generally pair skaters are not so obsessed with posture and lines and the dancey elements as the ice dancers.
norbitonite
14-03-2010
If she's an adagio skater, that would definitely explain why her technique doesn't seem to be up to the standard of some of the other pros.
MrsRobinson
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by Button62:
“I would imagine david Seaman put his foot down in case she starts another affair with a co skater !! ”

Maybe he can't trust himself at home alone while she's on tour and might go off with yet another woman!!!!
emzangel28
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by memmh:
“All she said was that she and Danny aren't doing the tour, the lineup's great and she'll definitely go and watch at some point. The reason she's not on the tour this year is probably perfectly innocuous - she was injured during the 2008 tour and had a very bad fall during her pro routine with Dan and Matt in the 2009 tour, so perhaps she'd prefer to take a break than do the tour again. Or perhaps she and/or Danny have other commitments. Or perhaps the producers just wanted to mix things up a bit: none of the other contestants from previous years will be skating with their former pro partners so, if Danny's not doing the tour and they didn't want her to skate with Chris for the 3rd year running, it's possible they didn't have anyone else to pair her with, given that Ray is already skating with Alex.”

Ooh i never heard about this, what happened? not in a horrible way, i'm always quite interested when pros have accidents too, guess its cus we nearly always see them perfoming so fantasticly lol! x
bornfree
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by number six:
“I don't mean to be horrible but Frankie always looks a bit "rough" she usually has the skimpiest of costumes that barely cover her but she looks so much nicer in a dress or something more girly!”

Not as rough as Daniella
Xassy
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by number six:
“I don't mean to be horrible but Frankie always looks a bit "rough" she usually has the skimpiest of costumes that barely cover her but she looks so much nicer in a dress or something more girly!”

Really? I think she's beautiful, in a slightly unconventional way.
olivej
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“Kieron's now the only one of the remaining contestants that's never confirmed what's happening with the tour. I doubt he's doing it, but we can always hope - maybe a guest appearance or two if we're lucky! ”


Brianne has said that Kieron wont be on tour as he has Hollyoaks commitments
RedRoseRebel
14-03-2010
Originally Posted by number six:
“I don't mean to be horrible but Frankie always looks a bit "rough" she usually has the skimpiest of costumes that barely cover her but she looks so much nicer in a dress or something more girly!”

I agree, she looked so much better tonight. That outfit last week with the very high cut legs, when she was lifted I thought we were going to see what she had for breakfast
Button62
15-03-2010
Originally Posted by bornfree:
“Thats a bit unfair on Danny. She is the same age as his mum, so he probably has the same respect for her that he would have for his mum. Personally I think Danny should go on the tour. No doubt some on here will run him down as usual.”


I wasn't referring to Danny in particular ....... sometimes what goes on on tour doesn't stay on tour !!
Xassy
15-03-2010
Originally Posted by Button62:
“I wasn't referring to Danny in particular ....... sometimes what goes on on tour doesn't stay on tour !!”

Que?!
Button62
15-03-2010
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“Que?! ”

If you had read the thread you may twig what I'm referring to.

Frankie and David Seaman embarked on an affair whilst doing the tour.

She left her husband and he left his second wife.

Several posters have made tongue in cheek comments about her not doing the tour due to lack of trust from David.

Do I have to spell it out any further ?

Entiendes ?
Xassy
16-03-2010
Originally Posted by Button62:
“If you had read the thread you may twig what I'm referring to.

Frankie and David Seaman embarked on an affair whilst doing the tour.

She left her husband and he left his second wife.

Several posters have made tongue in cheek comments about her not doing the tour due to lack of trust from David.

Do I have to spell it out any further ?

Entiendes ? ”

I had read. I'm stupid! It's hard to read how some stuff comes across online.
Button62
16-03-2010
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“I had read. I'm stupid! It's hard to read how some stuff comes across online.”


No problema !!
memmh
16-03-2010
I'd say this may have something to do with why Frankie isn't doing the tour this year:

http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...l/article.html
"STAND by for another Stoke versus Arsenal confrontation – only this one is taking place on a mountainside thousands of miles away.

Just when City manager Tony Pulis thought he would never take on an Arsenal opponent again until next season, along comes Gunners goalkeeping legend David Seaman.

The 46-year-old former England star, together with girlfriend and ice dancer Frankie Poultney, have agreed to climb Mount Kilimanjaro in May to raise thousands of pounds for the Donna Louise Children's Hospice Trust.STAND by for another Stoke versus Arsenal confrontation – only this one is taking place on a mountainside thousands of miles away."
Tiger Rose
16-03-2010
Am gonna miss Frankie on tour but good luck to Frankie & the others for this.
GerriP
16-03-2010
3 or 4 years ago Frankie was my fave female Pro, but my opinion of her started to go down hill as the (non)partnership with Chris Fountain progressed. Something I can;t put my finger on started to put me off.

Then this year with the stroppy comments on and off the live shows- I've started to actively dislike her. Which is a shame really as I rarely change my mind on people on TV in that direction
asp746
19-03-2010
cannot believe seaman is only 46 looks about 50
K_evans
19-03-2010
Matt is rehearsing alot with Frankie at that moment, and even said hint hint about it on his twitter. Has Frankie come out and said she isnt doing the tour or has she just said her and Danny arent touring? She could still be involved in a pro routine. Also Frankies fall last year was blown out of proportion, she skated on after it and just wasnt allowed skate in the evening show as a precaution, CF said after the show she was fine, the medical team were just being extra extra careful. It must have must but I'm sure she's suffered far worse, I dont think it would have affected her decision to do the tour at all.
Tiger Rose
19-03-2010
From the sounds of things Matt & Frankie are doing a pr routine this week on the show, so I still don't think she is on tour.
K_evans
19-03-2010
Aw yes of course! That idea never dawned on me!
Georgiecats
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by Button62:
“I would imagine david Seaman put his foot down in case she starts another affair with a co skater !! ”

I didn't know she'd shacked up with him until I saw it in a mag this week! Very unlikely couple.

And yes I have been living in a cave. How did I miss that?
xKatieLx
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by asp746:
“cannot believe seaman is only 46 looks about 50”

He looks about 50 IMO.

Frankie looks about 25. He could pass for her dad tbh.



I wanted Danny to do the tour.
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