Hayley
Gary
Kieron
Gary
Kieron
The Final of DOI will be between...
I think you might be right.
I really HOPE it's between Hayley and Kieron. Then it's between Gary and Daniella. On past form Gary is a hell of a lot better, but Daniella is the kind of person who I imagine could rise to the occasion, whereas Gary doesn't seem able to find that extra spark.
I really HOPE it's between Hayley and Kieron. Then it's between Gary and Daniella. On past form Gary is a hell of a lot better, but Daniella is the kind of person who I imagine could rise to the occasion, whereas Gary doesn't seem able to find that extra spark.
Personally whilst i'm not Hayley & Daniel's biggest fans in fact I cannot stand them, I would prefer to see Gary out next.
After all these weeks he still looks so self conscious on the ice and seems yet to let go and give a proper performance. He can skate great, but its called Dancing on Ice.
A Kieron-Hayley-Danniella finale would be much more interesting to watch.
However I can see Kieron being ousted come the quarters - hope not though
After all these weeks he still looks so self conscious on the ice and seems yet to let go and give a proper performance. He can skate great, but its called Dancing on Ice.
A Kieron-Hayley-Danniella finale would be much more interesting to watch.
However I can see Kieron being ousted come the quarters - hope not though
Originally Posted by Stube:
“So basically anyone but Daniella
Hmmm very controversial :sleep: [/exitbitchmode
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“So basically anyone but Daniella
Hmmm very controversial :sleep: [/exitbitchmode]”
No, this is not the case. The thread was created so people could express who they want and think will be in the final.
I actually want Daniella, Hayley and Kieron in the final, as I think that would make a really interesting competition...
I find Gary dull and not a great performer, therefore I would like him out on Sunday.
But I am pretty sure that Daniella will be leaving on Sunday (due to the required element and her lack of skating ability) which is why I posted the way I did.
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Personally whilst i'm not Hayley & Daniel's biggest fans in fact I cannot stand them, I would prefer to see Gary out next.
After all these weeks he still looks so self conscious on the ice and seems yet to let go and give a proper performance. He can skate great, but its called Dancing on Ice.
A Kieron-Hayley-Danniella finale would be much more interesting to watch.
However I can see Kieron being ousted come the quarters - hope not though”
“Personally whilst i'm not Hayley & Daniel's biggest fans in fact I cannot stand them, I would prefer to see Gary out next.
After all these weeks he still looks so self conscious on the ice and seems yet to let go and give a proper performance. He can skate great, but its called Dancing on Ice.
A Kieron-Hayley-Danniella finale would be much more interesting to watch.
However I can see Kieron being ousted come the quarters - hope not though”
I agree with everything here !!
(excluding the bit about not being able to stand Hayley and Dan...I absolutely love them!!!!!!!)
Originally Posted by gazb2:
“No, this is not the case. The thread was created so people could express who they want and think will be in the final.
I actually want Daniella, Hayley and Kieron in the final, as I think that would make a really interesting competition...
I find Gary dull and not a great performer, therefore I would like him out on Sunday.
But I am pretty sure that Daniella will be leaving on Sunday (due to the required element and her lack of skating ability) which is why I posted the way I did.”
“No, this is not the case. The thread was created so people could express who they want and think will be in the final.
I actually want Daniella, Hayley and Kieron in the final, as I think that would make a really interesting competition...
I find Gary dull and not a great performer, therefore I would like him out on Sunday.
But I am pretty sure that Daniella will be leaving on Sunday (due to the required element and her lack of skating ability) which is why I posted the way I did.”
Given we probably won't get the SF dance again in the final we are looking at final dances we have already seen. Hayley has a 30 dance thats probably one big lift short of some past winning performances but may be enough. In terms of a final not sure what Gary or kieron could put up again that looks that good or whether thats an interesting outcome who scores most between them. On balance Daniella might fly well and her better dances scored higher? Agree the lone spot may be difficult for her but they could write her a good looking routine.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Given we probably won't get the SF dance again in the final we are looking at final dances we have already seen. Hayley has a 30 dance thats probably one big lift short of some past winning performances but may be enough. In terms of a final not sure what Gary or kieron could put up again that looks that good or whether thats an interesting outcome who scores most between them. On balance Daniella might fly well and her better dances scored higher? Agree the lone spot may be difficult for her but they could write her a good looking routine.”
“Given we probably won't get the SF dance again in the final we are looking at final dances we have already seen. Hayley has a 30 dance thats probably one big lift short of some past winning performances but may be enough. In terms of a final not sure what Gary or kieron could put up again that looks that good or whether thats an interesting outcome who scores most between them. On balance Daniella might fly well and her better dances scored higher? Agree the lone spot may be difficult for her but they could write her a good looking routine.”
Thinking along the same lines (i.e. that we won't get the SF dance again so any finalist dance we do get will be one already performed) that could very well mean that we are in for one hell of a dull final. Hayley has scored a full six points higher than any of her rivals when looking at best routines thus far. Even Ray wasn't that far ahead. (That, of course, is dispensing with the props routines - there is no way any of those would be allowed in the final.)
Out of interest, are they allowed to change their past routines at all? If not, things could be very predictable indeed...
I had hoped for Hayley, Kieron and Danny - but it now appears that Hayley, Kieron and Gary is more realistic.
If that is the final three scenario - then I can only hope for a Hayley/Kieron final.
If that is the final three scenario - then I can only hope for a Hayley/Kieron final.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Thinking along the same lines (i.e. that we won't get the SF dance again so any finalist dance we do get will be one already performed) that could very well mean that we are in for one hell of a dull final. Hayley has scored a full six points higher than any of her rivals when looking at best routines thus far. Even Ray wasn't that far ahead. (That, of course, is dispensing with the props routines - there is no way any of those would be allowed in the final.)
Out of interest, are they allowed to change their past routines at all? If not, things could be very predictable indeed...”
“Thinking along the same lines (i.e. that we won't get the SF dance again so any finalist dance we do get will be one already performed) that could very well mean that we are in for one hell of a dull final. Hayley has scored a full six points higher than any of her rivals when looking at best routines thus far. Even Ray wasn't that far ahead. (That, of course, is dispensing with the props routines - there is no way any of those would be allowed in the final.)
Out of interest, are they allowed to change their past routines at all? If not, things could be very predictable indeed...”
Yes, I'm sure they are allowed to tweak their routines. Nevertheless, as you say, it is looking like a very predictable and not very exciting final.
Just because Danniella has been given limited skating to do in the last few weeks (note the words "given to do" in there - she doesn't come up with the routines...) it doesn't mean that she can't skate solo.
Go and check out her early performances on youtube - she does a fair amoount of skating on her own without being attached to Matt - even in week 1!
Its actually far more difficult to do some of the stuff she does with him like shadowing moves and matching lines than it is to whiz around on your own on the ice without worrying about anyone else.
She isn't a bad skater at all - and she and kieron perform the socks off Gary and the final should be between Hayley, Kieron and Danniella.
Go and check out her early performances on youtube - she does a fair amoount of skating on her own without being attached to Matt - even in week 1!
Its actually far more difficult to do some of the stuff she does with him like shadowing moves and matching lines than it is to whiz around on your own on the ice without worrying about anyone else.
She isn't a bad skater at all - and she and kieron perform the socks off Gary and the final should be between Hayley, Kieron and Danniella.
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
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She isn't a bad skater at all - and she and kieron perform the socks off Gary and the final should be between Hayley, Kieron and Danniella.”
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She isn't a bad skater at all - and she and kieron perform the socks off Gary and the final should be between Hayley, Kieron and Danniella.”
I agree with this, we would get some really interesting routines that way. Both Kieron and Daniella can take it up a notch and probably improve a previous performance skating wise (the performance is already there). I like Gary, but although he will be a very good skater, I don't know whether he can improve in the performance departmant.
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“Thinking along the same lines (i.e. that we won't get the SF dance again so any finalist dance we do get will be one already performed) that could very well mean that we are in for one hell of a dull final. Hayley has scored a full six points higher than any of her rivals when looking at best routines thus far. Even Ray wasn't that far ahead. (That, of course, is dispensing with the props routines - there is no way any of those would be allowed in the final.)
Out of interest, are they allowed to change their past routines at all? If not, things could be very predictable indeed...”
“Thinking along the same lines (i.e. that we won't get the SF dance again so any finalist dance we do get will be one already performed) that could very well mean that we are in for one hell of a dull final. Hayley has scored a full six points higher than any of her rivals when looking at best routines thus far. Even Ray wasn't that far ahead. (That, of course, is dispensing with the props routines - there is no way any of those would be allowed in the final.)
Out of interest, are they allowed to change their past routines at all? If not, things could be very predictable indeed...”
You can change them - Suzanne changes the final lift at the end of Music though I think Clare's since you've been gone is the same. I don't think you get longer performances as the show goes on - like on SCD (they just fill the show with more filler) - though Suzanne's Music I think is a few seconds longer in the final if youtube doesn't distort timing. There's certainly not much time to add more.
Jai Ho by my subjective count has a couple of lifts (one big one) and the big spin whilst Clare had 6 with 3 big lifts in about the same time and Suzanne has 5 all which all are pretty big and 3 are high on the wow factor, Hayley's big lift is in Suzanne's routine too.
I can't see how you can fit more into Jai Ho and keep the theme and the hidden difference seems to be that the final version of Music is something like 24 seconds longer than Jai Ho was.
I agree its not looking very competitive but its better than last year was without even a race on ability for second or third. Just think they have managed again to do a Ray and get someone exceptional to the final without giving them the best routine they could do. Clare and Suzanne got to put their best moves together and add some in their final routine (Suzanne adds to Music from week 7 with a much developed headbanger from week 5) I just don't see Hayley's best other moves or new ones fitting into Jai Ho in terms of style or time.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Given we probably won't get the SF dance again in the final we are looking at final dances we have already seen. Hayley has a 30 dance thats probably one big lift short of some past winning performances but may be enough. In terms of a final not sure what Gary or kieron could put up again that looks that good or whether thats an interesting outcome who scores most between them. On balance Daniella might fly well and her better dances scored higher? Agree the lone spot may be difficult for her but they could write her a good looking routine.”
“Given we probably won't get the SF dance again in the final we are looking at final dances we have already seen. Hayley has a 30 dance thats probably one big lift short of some past winning performances but may be enough. In terms of a final not sure what Gary or kieron could put up again that looks that good or whether thats an interesting outcome who scores most between them. On balance Daniella might fly well and her better dances scored higher? Agree the lone spot may be difficult for her but they could write her a good looking routine.”
What is an 'SF' dance ??
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“You can change them - Suzanne changes the final lift at the end of Music though I think Clare's since you've been gone is the same. I don't think you get longer performances as the show goes on - like on SCD (they just fill the show with more filler) - though Suzanne's Music I think is a few seconds longer in the final if youtube doesn't distort timing. There's certainly not much time to add more.
Jai Ho by my subjective count has a couple of lifts (one big one) and the big spin whilst Clare had 6 with 3 big lifts in about the same time and Suzanne has 5 all which all are pretty big and 3 are high on the wow factor, Hayley's big lift is in Suzanne's routine too.
I can't see how you can fit more into Jai Ho and keep the theme and the hidden difference seems to be that the final version of Music is something like 24 seconds longer than Jai Ho was.
I agree its not looking very competitive but its better than last year was without even a race on ability for second or third. Just think they have managed again to do a Ray and get someone exceptional to the final without giving them the best routine they could do. Clare and Suzanne got to put their best moves together and add some in their final routine (Suzanne adds to Music from week 7 with a much developed headbanger from week 5) I just don't see Hayley's best other moves or new ones fitting into Jai Ho in terms of style or time.”
“You can change them - Suzanne changes the final lift at the end of Music though I think Clare's since you've been gone is the same. I don't think you get longer performances as the show goes on - like on SCD (they just fill the show with more filler) - though Suzanne's Music I think is a few seconds longer in the final if youtube doesn't distort timing. There's certainly not much time to add more.
Jai Ho by my subjective count has a couple of lifts (one big one) and the big spin whilst Clare had 6 with 3 big lifts in about the same time and Suzanne has 5 all which all are pretty big and 3 are high on the wow factor, Hayley's big lift is in Suzanne's routine too.
I can't see how you can fit more into Jai Ho and keep the theme and the hidden difference seems to be that the final version of Music is something like 24 seconds longer than Jai Ho was.
I agree its not looking very competitive but its better than last year was without even a race on ability for second or third. Just think they have managed again to do a Ray and get someone exceptional to the final without giving them the best routine they could do. Clare and Suzanne got to put their best moves together and add some in their final routine (Suzanne adds to Music from week 7 with a much developed headbanger from week 5) I just don't see Hayley's best other moves or new ones fitting into Jai Ho in terms of style or time.”
That's a good point, especially since it was an outside (Asian) choreographer who devised that routine.
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
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I agree with this, we would get some really interesting routines that way. Both Kieron and Daniella can take it up a notch and probably improve a previous performance skating wise (the performance is already there). I like Gary, but although he will be a very good skater, I don't know whether he can improve in the performance departmant.”
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I agree with this, we would get some really interesting routines that way. Both Kieron and Daniella can take it up a notch and probably improve a previous performance skating wise (the performance is already there). I like Gary, but although he will be a very good skater, I don't know whether he can improve in the performance departmant.”
I agree with what you're saying. I do keep hoping though that Gary will have some kind of epiphany and realise that his DoI performance needs to be an act, rather than just being himself. I think that's the only way he can lose the self consciousness that always seems to seep into his performances. He even seems to come across a little self conscious in interviews, it's a shame.
If he could just get past that he could be sensational and then all bets about the winner would be off.
Personally I would prefer a Hayley/Kieron last 2, but if Gary did manage that "wow" performance, I'd be very happy to see it.
Originally Posted by gazb2:
“What is an 'SF' dance ??”
“What is an 'SF' dance ??”
Semi Final as in QF Quarter Final. Not as in SF = Special Forces - which would be dancing with big knives.......
I think the skate off this week will be Daniella vs Keiron.
Gary had massive support last week, so unless the judges muck about with the scoring this week and put Kieron bottom (fooling Gary's supporters into believing they don't have to vote as much like they did with Mikey) Gary is in the final.
I can't see that Hayley wouldn't be straight through as like her or not her skating is brilliant.
All comes down to the performances on Sunday really, to see which of the three manages to dodge the skate-off, along with Hayley.
My guess would be:
4th Keiron
3rd Daniella
Then, if Gary does get through straight this week, and bearing in mind the judges scores count for nothing in the final, might be worth a pound or two
Gary had massive support last week, so unless the judges muck about with the scoring this week and put Kieron bottom (fooling Gary's supporters into believing they don't have to vote as much like they did with Mikey) Gary is in the final.
I can't see that Hayley wouldn't be straight through as like her or not her skating is brilliant.
All comes down to the performances on Sunday really, to see which of the three manages to dodge the skate-off, along with Hayley.
My guess would be:
4th Keiron
3rd Daniella
Then, if Gary does get through straight this week, and bearing in mind the judges scores count for nothing in the final, might be worth a pound or two
