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Jedward picked up by Universal
Iceman09
17-03-2010
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...universal.html

Just when I though these two would disappear into the reality TV wilderness!
Stripez
17-03-2010
Oh no!
CLL Dodge
17-03-2010
I used to work for Universal, in its Polygram days. Sad to see they have sunk so low.
Sparklyblue171
17-03-2010
Their label has proved they're not serious.
SpaceToilets
17-03-2010
Oh joy
meglosmurmurs
17-03-2010
I can't stand Louis Walsh, because he always gives these sly little digs whenever he can to elicit some sort of reaction out of people, kind of like a bitchy 'queen'.

"Manager Louis Walsh insisted that the pair have a long future ahead of them, claiming that they are the real stars on the current X Factor tour."

"They are the real winners."


Awaiting the 'Jedward dropped by Universal' headline in the coming months.
xe2a2
17-03-2010
If the music industry is so bad fiscally, why are they throwing money down the pan to sign these two?

I'm not saying they aren't popular, but I don't see where the money is going to come from for the label, apart from live performances... which now generally goes directly into the pocket of the artist. I can't see them selling many records.

I think they will end up on Saturday kids tv if anywhere.
Triple-P
17-03-2010
let them have their 15 minutes, they are doing no harm.

atleast they will make some money and are living their dream, cant say that for most people.
Scratchy7929
17-03-2010
I think we'll find that they are signed to Universal Ireland not UK or International (we'll soon find out).The sly old queen may have omitted that for obvious reason's.
haim100
17-03-2010
Well, they're obviously not being signed as serious musical artists, they are being signed for their so called "entertainment value".

Personally I can't stand them, but if Universal thinks they can make a return on the signing, then that's up to them...we shall see what is in store. I have a feeling it won't be a longterm contract though...and even if it is, I have a stronger feeling that a drop will arrise sooner or later.
RichmondBlue
17-03-2010
"Jedward then start their Irish tour and it's all sold out"

Begorrah, and Bejasus, isn't dat grand..and dere's me tinkin dat the boyos had disappeared up their own arses for good.


I'ts St Paddy's day..so I'll refrain from further comment.
miles19740
17-03-2010
How sad...almost as sad as those people who bought their debut single.
Anika Hanson
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“I can't stand Louis Walsh, because he always gives these sly little digs whenever he can to elicit some sort of reaction out of people, kind of like a bitchy 'queen'.

"Manager Louis Walsh insisted that the pair have a long future ahead of them, claiming that they are the real stars on the current X Factor tour."

"They are the real winners."


Awaiting the 'Jedward dropped by Universal' headline in the coming months. ”

OH I see Louis is off again with his real stars tripe

I think it's disrespectful to the winner when he says things like this.
billiesmith
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by Anika Hanson:
“OH I see Louis is off again with his real stars tripe

I think it's disrespectful to the winner when he says things like this.”

He said the same about JLS and Alexandra didn't he
Scratchy7929
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by xe2a2:
“which now generally goes directly into the pocket of the artist”

I wouldn't go that far.It's generally about 20 - 25% cut (I think) - but that's not pure profit - they have to actually pay for the show they put on out of that.It all depends on how much they spent on the show, how many turn up.The record label gets a very small cut, though.I think the live show organisors / promotors have the greatest share but they also have expenses to look after as well.
I would confidently say that the profit that artists can make from live appearances would be 2-3 times (probably more with tickets selling at £35 or more) that per ticket sold as compared to an album sale.
Profits on singles are generally negligable as regards artists anyway.Record Labels may make a little off them though, but I wouldn't have thought they even make much off them.
If you want to support an artist (financially) make sure you try to see them live.If you can't see them live buy their album (although that won't necessary make them better off unless they get massive sales, but will to insure they are not dropped by their label).If you want to generate publicity for your favourite artist buy their singles - this is a generalisation of course for Major label artists.

Check below out, perhaps I was wrong about more money going to concert organisors - not sure.

http://labs.timesonline.co.uk/blog/2...-file-sharing/
Anika Hanson
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by billiesmith:
“He said the same about JLS and Alexandra didn't he”

Yes
haim100
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by Scratchy7929:
“I wouldn't go that far.It's generally about 20 - 25% cut (I think) - but that's not pure profit - they have to actually pay for the show they put on out of that.It all depends on how much they spent on the show, how many turn up.The record label gets a very small cut, though.I think the live show organisors / promotors have the greatest share but they also have expenses to look after as well.
I would confidently say that the profit that artists can make from live appearances would be 2-3 times (probably more with tickets selling at £35 or more) that per ticket sold as compared to an album sale.
Profits on singles are generally negligable as regards artists anyway.Record Labels may make a little off them though, but I wouldn't have thought they even make much off them.
If you want to support an artist (financially) make sure you try to see them live.If you can't see them live buy their album (although that won't necessary make them better off unless they get massive sales, but will to insure they are not dropped by their label).If you want to generate publicity for your favourite artist buy their singles - this is a generalisation of course for Major label artists.

Check below out, perhaps I was wrong about more money going to concert organisors - not sure.

http://labs.timesonline.co.uk/blog/2...-file-sharing/”

It also depends on how involved the artist was in the production process as to how much they get from single and album sales. For example, an artist that has written or co-written a track, is certainly entitiled to a higher royalty % than a track they haven't.

Then of course a lot of money comes from subsidary deals and endorsements. A proven artist with a good track record will also make a much higher return and get a much bigger cut from sales, as they are in a strong position to renegotiate the finances when contracts are up for renewal .
Scratchy7929
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by haim100:
“It also depends on how involved the artist was in the production process as to how much they get from single and album sales. For example, an artist that has written or co-written a track, is certainly entitiled to a higher royalty % than a track they haven't.

Then of course a lot of money comes from subsidary deals and endorsements. A proven artist with a good track record will also make a much higher return and get a much bigger cut from sales, as they are in a strong position to renegotiate the finances when contracts are up for renewal .”

Guess you haven't been following the events of Pink Floyd recently.I know EMI are in deep shit but there are alot of cases of royalties not being received.There are alot of ongoing disputes between major artists & Major labels at the moment about these royalties.The lower down the profitability scale the artist is the worse they are treated of course.The royalties from what should be received from itune sales have got a terrible record.
I was only talking generally.I am sure there are some artists that are treated quite well compared to others or have got good people behind them that make sure they get what they are due.
-Jade"
17-03-2010
Originally Posted by Anika Hanson:
“OH I see Louis is off again with his real stars tripe

I think it's disrespectful to the winner when he says things like this.”

I love John & Edward (and JLS, who Louis has said the same for) and I'm really happy for them, but I agree with this. It's very disrespectful, as no matter who ends up selling more or whatever; it doesn't take away the winner's achievement.
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