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DOI offical thread for Sunday 21/3/10 - 7.15
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Stube
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“Daniella is more improved then Gary? Aside from her inflated score last week, which was down to acting skills, she's been on the descent not going upwards. Fair enough if you like her regardless, but she doesn't have the skating skills of Gary.”

This post is HILARIOUS! Haha

You give the impression that Katie is a blind fan deliberately ignoring Daniella's flaws but that's what you're doing to Gary

Firstly, Daniella is clearly more improved than Gary. From an objective AND subjective perspective. Her confidence has grown, her skating skills (contrary to what is said on a completely unreliable and inaccurate forum ) have improved and her performance skills have always been there.

Gary, on the other hand, lacks personality and charisma on the ice (despite being an actor ) despite having very good skating skills. But even they haven't improved much.

And Daniella has had far better scores than Gary overall so let's not start that debate

I think someone's just a little infatuated here Daniella's and Gary's skating skills are very close. And in a way, Gary has got it harder than Daniella. But in another, he has got it easier.

It's called Dancing On Ice which suggests performing. He doesn't have the skills. Hayley, Daniella and Kieron all do.
gazb2
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Stube:
“It's called Dancing On Ice which suggests performing. He doesn't have the skills. Hayley, Daniella and Kieron all do.”

I have to agree with this.

Although I do really admire Strictly Irish for trying so hard to defend someone...that most people on here slate. Good on you!
Stube
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by gazb2:
“I have to agree with this.

Although I do really admire Strictly Irish for trying so hard to defend someone...that most people on here slate. Good on you! ”

Yeah i like him too. I shamelessly watched Footballer's Wives (shut up ), The Bill and hope he gets a place in Eastenders at some point but it's clear he's the weakest performer.

I actually think the performing side is more important than the skating side. Obviously there has to be decent skating, but there needs to be a balance. Gary's skating severely outweighs his performing - and i don't find his skating even that great.
gazb2
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Stube:
“Yeah i like him too. I shamelessly watched Footballer's Wives (shut up ), The Bill and hope he gets a place in Eastenders at some point but it's clear he's the weakest performer.

I actually think the performing side is more important than the skating side. Obviously there has to be decent skating, but there needs to be a balance. Gary's skating severely outweighs his performing - and i don't find his skating even that great.”

For me, Gary just doesn't make me go "WOW" and never has did. I would never want to watch his routines again, and certainly wouldn't make me pick up the phone and vote for him. I think his skating is good...but his performance is really not there...maybe that of a stick skating round, not selling the performance at all.
Taz93
21-03-2010
Can't wait for the show. Alexandra performing.
vincent's mojo
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Taz93:
“Can't wait for the show. Alexandra performing. ”


What's happened that there a music act on tonight??
Taz93
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by vincent's mojo:
“What's happened that there a music act on tonight??”

Nothing they probably booked her because the songs amazing and she's a great live performer.
yohinnchild
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by vincent's mojo:
“What's happened that there a music act on tonight??”

They prob need to bulk up the results show or the main show with something.

I guess it depends where she is singing.

It wont take long for Pip to call out 2 safe names in the results show and its still 30 mins long. the mains show is 1h and 10 mins long for 4 performances.
Eejit
21-03-2010
She's performing on the results show I think.

The T&D + Celebs group routine is on the main show.
bbfan09
21-03-2010
Is Frankie and Matt doing a routine tonight?
xKatieLx
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“They prob need to bulk up the results show or the main show with something.

I guess it depends where she is singing.

It wont take long for Pip to call out 2 safe names in the results show and its still 30 mins long. the mains show is 1h and 10 mins long for 4 performances.”

So.......

T & D Skate- First 2 minutes
5 minutes break
A dumb VT of everyone going I wanna be in the final- 1 minute
5 minute break
Celebs Intro, Ice Panel Intro- 2 minutes
5 minutes break
Hayley skates, judges talk- 2 minutes
10 minute break
Gary skates, VT & Scores- 2 minutes
5 minute break
Competition- 1 minute
10 minute break
Kieron skates- 2 minutes
10 minute break
Danniella skates- 2 minutes
5 minute break
Waving and credits- 1 minute

= 1 hr 10 minutes show
Taz93
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“She's performing on the results show I think.

The T&D + Celebs group routine is on the main show. ”

Whats on Tv says she is opening the show.
Eejit
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Taz93:
“Whats on Tv says she is opening the show. ”

There's no way they'll do the celeb group routine right before the elimination and skate-off - that would be totally unfair on them.
vincent's mojo
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Taz93:
“Whats on Tv says she is opening the show. ”

She will possible be performing on both shows
Taz93
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“There's no way they'll do the celeb group routine right before the elimination and skate-off - that would be totally unfair on them. ”

True. She must be in the results show then.
Tiger Rose
21-03-2010
Matt & Frankie are skating at the start of the results show (confirmed on Matt's Twitter), alongside Alexandra Burke I think (Matt is talking about a surprise so seems logical).
Taz93
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by vincent's mojo:
“She will possible be performing on both shows ”

She's performing only All Night Long as far as we know. Unless she does The Silence as well.
SheShe
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Stube:
“Yeah i like him too. I shamelessly watched Footballer's Wives (shut up ), The Bill and hope he gets a place in Eastenders at some point but it's clear he's the weakest performer.

I actually think the performing side is more important than the skating side. Obviously there has to be decent skating, but there needs to be a balance. Gary's skating severely outweighs his performing - and i don't find his skating even that great.”




Jayne and Chris think he's the strongest skater left! They said so.
Strictly_Irish
21-03-2010
@Stube Well obviously as a Daniella fan you are going to think performance is more important yet it's DANCING on ICE, not performing on ice. Sure, they should perform but it's 50/50. They have to be able to skate and Daniella is so under par.
SheShe
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by xKatieLx:
“So.......

T & D Skate- First 2 minutes
5 minutes break
A dumb VT of everyone going I wanna be in the final- 1 minute
5 minute break
Celebs Intro, Ice Panel Intro- 2 minutes
5 minutes break
Hayley skates, judges talk- 2 minutes
10 minute break
Gary skates, VT & Scores- 2 minutes
5 minute break
Competition- 1 minute
10 minute break
Kieron skates- 2 minutes
10 minute break
Danniella skates- 2 minutes
5 minute break
Waving and credits- 1 minute

= 1 hr 10 minutes show ”



That amused me!
Stube
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by SheShe:
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Jayne and Chris think he's the strongest skater left! They said so.”

Well they would know more than me from what they've seen. Shame his performance skills are non-existent.

Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“@Stube Well obviously as a Daniella fan you are going to think performance is more important yet it's DANCING on ICE, not performing on ice. Sure, they should perform but it's 50/50. They have to be able to skate and Daniella is so under par.”

Under par? How is she? She's proved time and time again she is very strong alone on the ice.

Her performance/dancing is 8 out of 10
Her skating is probably 7.

Gary's performing/dancing is 2 out of 10
His skating is probably 9.

As fair as i could make it. The truth hurts.
vincent's mojo
21-03-2010
Bump to see missing post
CombatHamster
21-03-2010
DOI has always been 50/50 performance and skating. If a contestant is seriously lacking in one of these then they are not a deserving winner. Hayley, Kieron and Daniella have all shown us they can perform, tonight they have to prove to us they can skate. Gary we know can skate but has yet to show he can perform. If he doesn't manage that by tonight then he doesn't deserve to be in the final IMO, and the same goes if any of them don't manage to skate well (though personally I think they all will).
Eejit
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by CombatHamster:
“DOI has always been 50/50 performance and skating. If a contestant is seriously lacking in one of these then they are not a deserving winner. Hayley, Kieron and Daniella have all shown us they can perform, tonight they have to prove to us they can skate. Gary we know can skate but has yet to show he can perform. If he doesn't manage that by tonight then he doesn't deserve to be in the final IMO, and the same goes if any of them don't manage to skate well (though personally I think they all will).”

I largely agree. Though I would say that Kieron has proven he can skate well already - he's done lots of independent skating in his routines in recent weeks.
mrbernay
21-03-2010
Kieron has just tweeted that the order has changed and he and Brianne are dancing 4th (last), so does that mean Gary will now be 2nd if the keep the boy/girl/boy/girl rota? Surely Hayley must be dancing first for the first time...
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