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Old 21-03-2010, 15:57
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I thought id highlight something that people are not so aware about, people claim that free range chickens taste better but how is it that no one bats a eye lid when it comes to the taste in fish? well its just proof that people only find a difference in taste once they realise its free range or not.

You pick up a free range egg and a caged hen egg. You will try to convince yourself that the free range one tastes better. (even if someone switched them without you looking) undoubtedly you will have convinced yourself the "free range" one tastes better.

Anyway back onto free range fish, I thought I would warp everyone mind (with the truth) that fish farmed fish are fed all sorts of crap, even chicken remains is fed to fish (the stuff people don't want to eat) YES they feed chicken to your lovely fish! not all of it is just a percentage.

I'm sure some of you will require a thesis of facts on it but there's the truth if you want to hear it.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:00
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Not that many farmed fish though.

Salmon & Trout are but what others were you thinking of?
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:03
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i've seen a bit in the news about fish farming practices,also about over fishing of the seas, something definitely needs to be done to help things. But to be honest, i've not seen much in supermarkets about free range fish, whereas its really clear which eggs are free range.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:08
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I thought id highlight something that people are not so aware about, people claim that free range chickens taste better but how is it that no one bats a eye lid when it comes to the taste in fish? well its just proof that people only find a difference in taste once they realise its free range or not.

You pick up a free range egg and a caged hen egg. You will try to convince yourself that the free range one tastes better. (even if someone switched them without you looking) undoubtedly you will have convinced yourself the "free range" one tastes better.

Anyway back onto free range fish, I thought I would warp everyone mind (with the truth) that fish farmed fish are fed all sorts of crap, even chicken remains is fed to fish (the stuff people don't want to eat) YES they feed chicken to your lovely fish! not all of it is just a percentage.

I'm sure some of you will require a thesis of facts on it but there's the truth if you want to hear it.
I agree with the taste of eggs. My parents purchase free range eggs. I had been eating them for a while. Its only after I saw the egg box in the kitchcn, that I reliased they bought free range.


I didnt know about the fish, seems pretty of putting - feeding fish chickens. Didnt realise fish could digest chicken.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:13
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Not that many farmed fish though.

Salmon & Trout are but what others were you thinking of?
Lots of Sea Bass is farmed.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:15
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Anything and everything in low supply is fish farmed, tuna and even cod is fish farmed.

My point was really to highlight the issue im not against fish farming or anything what else can we do really. It takes too much fish feed to feed fish so they resort to feeding them rubbish but that's really an "organic" issue, chickens, cows, pigs etc are all fed "feed" so they are eating rubbish too. Its only the organic stuff that is natural. Its only as bad as us eating processed food so I wouldn't feel that bad that fish eat chicken.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:17
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Taste has nothing to do with buying free range eggs, it's a cruelty issue.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:20
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Taste has nothing to do with buying free range eggs, it's a cruelty issue.
yes but killing them is okay? let not get into that, for some people it is a taste issue.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:25
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Maybe free-range eggs taste better because the people who eat them do so with a clearer conscience/the thought that they've done something good?

I don't eat eggs myself, but I do find that with fair trade coffee
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:27
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yes but killing them is okay? let not get into that, for some people it is a taste issue.
for some its a class/snobbery issue, makes them feel superior.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:27
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yes but killing them is okay? let not get into that, for some people it is a taste issue.
We have supposedly high standards of animal welfare in the UK, the majority of eggs in supermarkets are now free range due to the growing distaste for battery farming.

I think organic food is where people convince themselves food tastes better. Aside from Salmon I have never heard of fish being farmed, the tin I just bought says Wild Salmon.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:28
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You pick up a free range egg and a caged hen egg. You will try to convince yourself that the free range one tastes better. (even if someone switched them without you looking) undoubtedly you will have convinced yourself the "free range" one tastes better.
You're presuming everybody who eats free range eggs, does so for the flavour.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:30
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Taste has nothing to do with buying free range eggs, it's a cruelty issue.
yes but killing them is okay?
How do you kill an egg
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:31
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We have supposedly high standards of animal welfare in the UK, the majority of eggs in supermarkets are now free range due primarily to higher profits, other reasons are the growing distaste for battery farming.

I think organic food is where people convince themselves food tastes better.
fixed that for you
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:31
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How do you kill an egg
I'm about to kill a Creme Egg.
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Old 21-03-2010, 16:45
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You pick up a free range egg and a caged hen egg. You will try to convince yourself that the free range one tastes better. (even if someone switched them without you looking) undoubtedly you will have convinced yourself the "free range" one tastes better.
I don’t think people buy free-range eggs for the taste. They buy them because they’re much better for you.

Commercial chickens are typically fed on a diet of cardboard, sawdust, ammonia, feathers, processed sewage, poultry litter, cement dust, and grease. As well as a life-long programme of insecticides, antibiotics and hormones to keep them alive long enough to reach slaughter.

By the time of going to slaughter, 80% of commerical chickens have cancer. They’re diseased because they haven’t had sufficient nutrition, including fresh air, exercise, sunlight. And they haven’t had their natural diet of worms, insects, dandelions etc, which is where they get their nutrients from to pass on to us.

Eggs are supposed to contain an essential fatty acide called DHA which is critical for building tissue. A real egg contains 200–400mg of DHA, whereas commerical egg typically contains 20mg.

To get all our essential nutrients from food we should be buying fresh, organic, unprocessed produce. This is why people choose organic eggs, not because of taste.

By the way my information comes from the truly excellent book Never Be Sick Again which I recently read and would highly recommend to anyone.
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:01
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Commercial chickens are typically fed on a diet of cardboard, sawdust, ammonia, feathers, processed sewage, poultry litter, cement dust, and grease.
That must be why my eggs are hard to crack and slip out my hand if I'm not careful.

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Old 21-03-2010, 17:03
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:04
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I really don't care about free range and not free range, I notice no difference in the taste when it comes to chicken and the issues surrounding their living arrangements, the cruelty issue is negated for me by the fact they are going to be killed for food anyway...
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:05
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That must be why my eggs are hard to crack and slip out my hand if I'm not careful.

It certainly explains why they bung you up.
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:07
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I don’t think people buy free-range eggs for the taste. They buy them because they’re much better for you.

Commercial chickens are typically fed on a diet of cardboard, sawdust, ammonia, feathers, processed sewage, poultry litter, cement dust, and grease. As well as a life-long programme of insecticides, antibiotics and hormones to keep them alive long enough to reach slaughter.

By the time of going to slaughter, 80% of commerical chickens have cancer. They’re diseased because they haven’t had sufficient nutrition, including fresh air, exercise, sunlight. And they haven’t had their natural diet of worms, insects, dandelions etc, which is where they get their nutrients from to pass on to us.

Eggs are supposed to contain an essential fatty acide called DHA which is critical for building tissue. A real egg contains 200–400mg of DHA, whereas commerical egg typically contains 20mg.

To get all our essential nutrients from food we should be buying fresh, organic, unprocessed produce. This is why people choose organic eggs, not because of taste.

By the way my information comes from the truly excellent book Never Be Sick Again which I recently read and would highly recommend to anyone.
your reasons, are why some people buy free range. Not everyone buys free range becuase of the reasons you stated - as you suggest in your post.
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:10
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My oh and I sea fish and I think the taste is much better than farmed or shop bought, especially Sea Bass. Yummy!
Probably because it is very fresh

We wouldn't buy farmed now. to expensive and the taste isn't the same imo
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:26
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If you're breeding an animal with the sole intention of killing it to eat the cruelty has already been done so you may as well make it's life as short and sharp as possible; rather than give it a really nice life so it couldn't be happier and then kill it.
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:26
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I thought id highlight something that people are not so aware about, people claim that free range chickens taste better but how is it that no one bats a eye lid when it comes to the taste in fish? well its just proof that people only find a difference in taste once they realise its free range or not.

You pick up a free range egg and a caged hen egg. You will try to convince yourself that the free range one tastes better. (even if someone switched them without you looking) undoubtedly you will have convinced yourself the "free range" one tastes better.

Anyway back onto free range fish, I thought I would warp everyone mind (with the truth) that fish farmed fish are fed all sorts of crap, even chicken remains is fed to fish (the stuff people don't want to eat) YES they feed chicken to your lovely fish! not all of it is just a percentage.

I'm sure some of you will require a thesis of facts on it but there's the truth if you want to hear it.
Having caught and eaten wild trout since I was a child I find shop bought trout to be revolting.
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Old 21-03-2010, 17:28
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I don’t think people buy free-range eggs for the taste. They buy them because they’re much better for you.
You may, but not everyone does. One of my colleagues buys free range eggs & free range chickens for the taste. She may be deluding herself, but she believes the eggs & chickens taste better, so that's her criteria. She has no real interest in how they ended up in the shop or what they ate en route to her place - she wouldn't deliberately harm the bird, but she wants something that tastes good & believes free range provides her with that. When she's visiting her family, she goes for weeks on end & she has what they have, which is whatever cheapest. Cost is their criteria, & as long as it's cooked properly she eats it.

Many people feel the same way. They wouldn't like to know of the animal being harmed, but they want the best they can afford, & if they can't afford free range so be it. Information about what the chickens are fed on isn't going to change them over to free range, because if the cost is the issue either they'll continue buying what they've always had or they'll stop buying it altogether. When Jamie Oliver was trying to get households on to buying fresh food rather than ready meals, it was cost, how quickly they could get it on the plate & whether their children would eat it that won in the end - how much better the fresh food was for them & how many additives were in the ready meals didn't sway them much if at all.
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