I think Hayley will win

Probably. With her dance background I am expecting a good routine from her, like Ray last year. I do think his slight frame will actually work in Keiron's favour in the flying too.

Sorry Duryea, I have seen a lot of name calling about one particular contestant, and i don't see a problem with stating that someone is pleased that someone left. I understand that gloating isn't very nice, and maybe it would be better to term it more diplomatically (I don't want to piss off supporters of someone). However, again simply stating, I'm pleased X has left because I'm a supporter of Y or because I think X was the weakest tonight IMO is not a crime.

I would say the same if Hayley, Kieron or Gary had left.

Why be pleased that someone is gone? It is not uncommon, you know, to regret that someone has gone even if you think it was the right decision.

Besides, the competition is not only Hayley vs Daniella, even though a lot of posts read as if it were.

Kieron was the best tonight, in my opinion. I would have said Hayley before he performed.

Anyway, isn't Hayley just going to do "flying" and repeat "Jai Ho" in the final? Or do they have to do some new routine?

So you do see the point after all.

I'm sorry....but where is everybody's logic ?! Kieron was in the skate off last week (even though he was NOT bottom 2 on the leader board) and has been in another skate off. Gary was in the skate off tonight (even though he was NOT bottom 2 on the leader board) and has been in another skate off. Hayley...has never been in a skate off, is absolutely amazing....been top of the leader board every week (bar 1) and yet people are still so certain that she is not going to win ?!?!? Someone PLEASE explain....!!!!!!

I don't know. That's why I'm asking.

Because people are entitled to their own opinon. It's not difficult to understand. I did like Daniella, but tonight IMO she was one of the weakest performers. I'm a Kieron supporter, so I'm pleased he didn't go. Others support other people, so they are pleased their favourites didn't go. As long as people don't say, I'm pleased X went because she is a scummy bag, I'm happy for them to voice their opinion. I'm sure if Hayley had left, nobody would complain about all the posters gloating (I'm pretty sure you wouldn't, but maybe I'm wrong and I'm happy to be proven wrong next week if she doesn't win and you jump to her defense). I saw a couple of posters, who were making a pretty strong case that everyone but Hayley should go through. I didn't see anyone jumping at their throats. That's as much gloating as yellowlabbie did

Yes in theory it would be nicer if people said, "well done Daniella". However, we didn't have any threads that did that with any of the other contestants. It's a bit weird to attack someone because they are pleased she left (without retorting to nasty comments about her).

Yes I do, but see my post above.

I think thae thread says THINK she wont win.

IMO, based on Keiron not in the SO despite being in tied bottom and Gary having strong votes all series and Hayley apart from one week being top and therefore pubic voting not thoroughly tested, it is possible she wont win.

It's not a dig at her, just looking at how this series has panned out and what may happen.

I want Keiron to win, but I don't expect him too. But there is a chance. There's a chance any of them could win it.

It is difficult to understand why you think it's relevant to say "people are entitled to their own opinion." Especially after you've said you "understand that gloating isn't very nice." People are entitled to gloat if they want to. That doesn't make gloating unobjectionable.

To be fair, that would be amazing! He was very sweet tonight, because I think he expected to be in the skate off.

and these are the 3 I wanted to see in the final because imo they are the best 3. May the best man win (well hopefully the woman).

She has never been in a skate off - if she is unpopular as some claim tonight was the night when the public could have dumped her in the skate off; but they didn't.

Obviously neither Gary nor Daniella took first 2 places with the public - otherwise they wouldn't have been in the skate off.

Next week will reveal all.

I'm sorry you find it so difficult to understand that I allow people to have their own opinion.

I'm not getting into this. It's obvious the two of us don't communicate very well, no disrespect intended. People are entitled to their own opinion IMO, and I don't think I have the right to dictate how people should communicate or what words they should chose to do so. I also think gloating is not very nice. However, one post in which someone states their opinion (e.g. I'm happy that this person left), IMO is not gloating. Several posts about the same subject maybe even in an appreciation thread would be gloating. Tonight, after a very tight semi final, I understand that some people might want to share that they are pleased that X left and that Y stayed. If the same poster then starts several threads all with the same core message (e.g. X has left, she is smug and I'm happy) then I'm unhappy that they person gloated. It's not rocket science you know.

That is such a strange way to look at it. There isn't anyone who isn't allowing people to have their own opinion.

There is a big difference between attacking an opinion and saying that the person isn't allowed to have that opinion.


You seem to be trying to stick some ridiculous view on me that I've never expressed. I haven't said anyone isn't entitled to their own opinion.


One comment can be gloating. The idea that it must involve several threads is absurd.

I am SO going to miss reading your amazing posts that make me smile with agreement

Thank you for being a true Hayley supporter with me

Veri believe me this time, you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that you don't allow other people to have an opinion. I honestly don't! If you misunderstood me then I'm sorry, but please believe me if I state this in very direct terms.


To me the whole discussion started, because someone took another poster to task about being happy that Daniella left. I said that I didn't mind people stating in one post that they are happy that someone left, when their own favourite stayed in. IMO this person just shared their opinion with the forum and they were not gloating. IMO gloating is not very nice, but requires a poster to either go on an appreciation thread with some nasty comments, to start a thread with the intention to gloat or to go onto every thread on the forum with the same core "gloat" message (I'm sure I left out some other examples of gloating). I don't think that particular poster has done that.

I honestly think if Hayley had left, and the roles were reversed (e.g. someone would have stated they were happy she left - I assume there would be threads celebrating her departure anyway), I wouldn't have this discussion with you or anyone else on the forum.

Well the main judge this morning on GMTV thought that Keiron should have gone not Daniella as he was not impressed with his skating.

I cant wait to see Hayley and Dan do Bolero. Gary and Keiron well I suppose we have to have someone else in the show lol.

Thank you gazb2, it's a pity some on here don't feel the same. I will support Hayley until the end and if she doesn't win, I won't mind because I still think she is the best.

I am sorry you got involved, I wasn't gloating. I agree about the gloating regarding Hayley, if she had been the one to go, there would have been thread after thread saying how awful she was and how she deserved to go. This forum is very hypocritical sometimes.

She hasn't at all, she just happens to be the most consistently good performer out of all of them, just as Ray was last year and I agree she's not a patch on him. However, there were people who didn't want Ray to win either and had the same unreasonable dislike of him just because he was so far ahead of the others.

Must vote harder for Kieron this week after reading that.

I am beginning to think that some people make a decision prior to the start not to like the best skater, dancer, whatever I can appreciate that some will prefer Daniella because of EE, or Kieron because of whatever soap he is in but to dislike someone so intensely as some do on here is wierd imo. Hayley has clearly been the best on every performance imo yet they still vote her bottom on here. I can appreciate them not voting her the best but to say she is the worse if ridiculous.

I don't normally vote, but I may throw one Keiron's way on Sunday.

I think it's very unprofessional of Robin to have said Keiron should have gone. It's no different to Jason's Twitter about Gary last night. In fact it's worse. Gary was at least in the SO, Keiron wasn't. And also, as head judge and a respected professional Robin words hold more weight. I'm very dissappointed in him for saying this.