I'd like to see some other skating people...who are the current Uk top stakers? I have no idea, maybe put them on for one week...then top UK male another week top UK Female another...try and promote uk staters and see if some international staters will do a turn at the start of the show or before results instead of a singing act...keep the singing for Xfactor.

I would also like to see robin cousins do a masterclass or some element with the contestants...pass on his wealth of knowledge and maybe choreograph one of the final weeks for the skaters.

But wouldn't he then fall into the 'can't be judge and trainer' trap? Altho' I like the idea of a masterclass. Perhaps as a running segment with Robin or a.n.other ex-skater training some up-and-coming young ones?

I also like the idea of getting current top skaters to do guest spots in the results show (although wait for the cries of Foul! from SCD!) but wouldn't they be too busy with their own training? And would it compromise their amateur status?

A limit of 4 lifts per performance

Go over that limit and it is 0.5 of a deduction

They must do the required element.. Don't do the required element and it is deduction of a whole mark

And make sure that Andrei, Suzy and Fred get the best celebs next year, the weakest ones should go to Dan and Maria.

And please ease off all the soap star actors/actresses - we need much more of a variation - there were six soap stars on the show this year

They should definitely limit the lifts to 3 per routine. I think it's actually pretty shocking that in 5 series there are really only 3 or 4 girls whom you would describe as decent skaters (Suzanne, Clare & Jessica and possibly hayley,although i don't think she's quite there yet). And they all have about 3 months intensive training even before the show starts. Limiting the number of lifts would force the girls to concentrate on their skating.

I think they need an ITT type daily show on ITV2 & no Coleen as presenter. Also bring back defrosted. They have ITV spin offs for X Factor, BGT & I'm a celeb so why not DOI.

Ditch the flying.

More routines & choreography from the pros.

People like to point out that only a few females are good skaters but there are only half a dozen great male skaters, and only one of those can dance.

In five series Ray Quinn is the only man who can really dance on ice, so if we're going to penalise the women for being able to dance, can we make sure the men can too and not just present the female pro dancing.

Give them two required elements, one based on skating, one based on dancing. I hate to say it but if we had done that neither Chris, Kyran, Donal or Stefan would've done nearly so well, and maybe the likes of Bonnie and Zaraah would be appreciated for what they can actually do.

We need a new set, its been the same for five years now and it's so boring!

The biggest change needed sadly is impossible.......That change being the public who vote based on personalities rather than skating skills.........Be it Big Brother be it Strictly come dancing be it the X factor or be it dancing on ice the public are destined to ruin it by losing the plot as to what the title of the program actually means.................

I'd like time made for all the judges to comment, the way they do on X factor, not just two and mostly Jason at that

I never watch the final because of the flying

the one with the soppiest song always wins

There's a lot of truth in the dancing enabled males problem and there's a question about most male's weak acting in there somewhere too. The problem with lifts and tricks too is that nearly all the males on the show can't do them which sorta suggests you need someone near to a Ray (who actually managed some) with strength more like a Kyran to be a complete package - if you don't, the top girls will fill a routine with skating, more dancing and 5 good lifts and the male routines will look thin.

The bigger question though is how many people are there left out there who they could put on the show. They have tried going younger and with the girls it hasn't been a great success, going older through design or neccessity hasn't ben a great success either - apart from with Bonnie who is 40+ going on 16 anyway. This series they ought to have had 4 possibles for a competitive male but they didn't find one or if they did develop him enough. Last series they couldn't find a second male to chase Ray and their top females were too tall to do much more than early week lifts apart from one which Jessica managed and wasn't followed up possibly because it did damage.

There's another problem in there that the males who do really well either have the right build, musicality and some useful tranferable experience like Chris and Ray or come with unusual strength and fitness (Kyran) If they are female they historially have strengths in acting, dancing and musicality, are in the 25 -35 age bracket and are in the 5-0-5-4 height range like Suzanne, Clare, Hayley and Bonnie (give or take 10 year's in Bonnie's case) There's no way around that because the Gareth's, Mikey's, Donal's, Sharons Colleens and even Jessica's just can't close the gap and you end up judging the improved but still not close against the people who can go from good to excellent. In the last two years, they have only found one person each year who ticks the boxes to win and they have actually been lucky that Hayley and Ray didn't hurt themselves before the final.

A final question is how you deal with that. If you want great performances you need to go out more actively and recruit even more dancers and people who could do musical theatre and people who have done shows like SCD already or do what the US equivalent of SCD does which is to go for people like gymnasts. If you don't want more people picked because they are potentially very good and want to see the Colleens Dr Hs and Sharons struggle to improve a bit, you probably have to resign yourself to them not producing that much and potentially only one really good skater turning up per series.

I would like to see ALL the judges be ex skaters

I'd love to see Beth Tweddle on Dancing on Ice - that would have to wait until after 2012 though (if the show is still going by then!!).

Snap - exactly the same thought occurred to me. On the singers front , Tina Barrett was rumoured to be in the frame this year and she's got an ideal build and is a dancer. There's also the people who did well on other shows like the Games and Cirque de celebrite or even SCD. Sports person wise it might be Interesting to see what an olympic cyclist could do with leg muscles and balance. Once you start going for people who would really be good though, you are going to get lots of complaints that its unfair that some people are really good. On the other side of the equation I suppose there's a problem too that, if you do have a relevant talent, DOI is a risky option because an injury could ruin the talent for elsewhere - safer to do SCD?

I think part of the problem is that potential contestants r(and after this series the sports world in particular) refuse becuse they don't want to be publically insulted by Jason for their efforts. This series he has just gone too far.

Sharron, Gary and Kieron have all said that they can't wait until they never have to see him or hear him again (or words to that effect)

I too am bored with the flying Final!! I get bored too when one contestant is so much better than the others and we all know who is going to win. Same last year with Ray who was admittedly fantastic as he had obviously studied ballet and could skate up a storm. The first time I saw the flying I thought it was good but now there are no surprises no matter how loud and excited Phil gets!! I hate the screaming audience, would like to hear more from the professional skaters rater than the never ending "injuries" of the star contestants. I would like Emma to be replaced by a skater judge. I am bored by the set up of pantomine villian judge (Jason) who insults each contestant. We have the same panel set up on each show, X Factor (Simon) Strictly (Craig) and it is taking the audience for idiots as we all know it is rehearsed. Same with the "fighting" between the judges!! All done to gain more viewers. It is called showBUSINESS after all!!

AND as we have seen recently, if you upset Chis and Jayne, they do a hatched job on your career!! Sharron apparently was shocked by the editing of the video regarding her "disagreement" with them over her dance routine etc. So by being a competitor on Dancing on Ice you could end up with serious damage to your reputation and with physical injuries!! Doubt if I would sign up!! Never mind the "wonderful" Jason and his comments, telling the world the Gary Lucy was boring!!

I think these shows manipulate the public into voting for the underdog, especially with the insulting comments from judges like Jason or Craig (SCD). It is all done to generate more telephone votes and thereby more money for the show. I remember when SCD donated a part of the money to Children in Need but they no longer do this, although this fact was not widely reported in the press. Its all down to money, money and more money, unfortunately. I do resent that they take the public to be idiots but rather amazingly, it seems to work!!!

In the past, my family have loved DOI. But this year, it just seems so dull! Even last year, when we all knew Ray would win, it was still worth watching! But this year everything is so bland, and dare I say it boring! Jason's comments( and yes he does go to far) are the only thing, that seem to cause a stir in the press, and that's when you know a show is in trouble!

Oh God, no. The other important requirement of contestants on any of these kind of shows is that they have a discernible personality, and Beth, bless her, doesn't have one the minute you take her away from the gymnasium.

I think a certain amount of natural selection goes on anyway - the majority of people that end up doing these kinds of shows have a reasonable amount of fitness, dance ability and/or acting ability, because those are the demands the show places on you. The gaps are filled with 'comedy' contestants who you just know will be rubbish, but that's part of the spectacle - every circus needs its freak show.

Are you suggesting that C&J personally edited the VT? Surely that has nothing to do with them at all?

Really? I'm not arguing about Jason being nasty but frankly the majority of contestants on DOI need the career boost so much that I can't see Jason stopping this. The three you mention all needed that career boost.

How did Kieron need the career boost? He's got a decent continuing full time job as one of the most popular characters on Hollyoaks, no doubt on a pretty reasonable wage. He was hardly struggling before Dancing on Ice came along...

I've drifted in and out this series. Too much of a one horse race and no real choice this year for a serious competitor for Hayley to liven things up.

No sportsperson who has any asperations towards 2012 are going to appear on SOI with the chance of serious injury ever present. Injuries even now will badly disrupt any training programme.

Agreed. You just have to look at what happened to Jade in Strictly last year to see how risky that show can be to an athlete's career. Add in a slippy surface underfoot - no way would anyone with eyes on competing in 2012 risk DOI!