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Old 22-03-2010, 22:13
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Shocked to be told by Humax that this couldn't be done on the Foxsat-HDR. Anyone got any workarounds?
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Old 23-03-2010, 09:34
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I'm afraid non freesat mode is the bane of this box.

Not that it shouldn't be fitted, as its geat to have it there, just that its not properly implemented / supported.

Many of us bought this box with non freesat mode in mind and even multisat DISCEQ use as well, but unfortunately without an epg and without the ability to record in both modes simoutaneously, its handicappped beyond use for many of us.
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Old 23-03-2010, 19:33
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Yes, although I shouldn't have purchased this STB knowing it doesn't do timed recordings in non-freesat mode, I did so in the hope that a future FW upgrade would "enable" this functionality.

I can live without the FTP server, but too many times I want to record late night sports events (like Boxing from the USA), and I'm being forced to record for 8 hours because I cannot set a timer in non-freesat mode

Oh well, looks like I'll be selling up for a Topfield SRP-2410.
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Old 24-03-2010, 00:53
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Oh well, looks like I'll be selling up for a Topfield SRP-2410.
Any idea how well the MediaHighway EPG works?

If that has both UK and foreign channels it could be ideal. I am similarly disappointed with the Non Freesat facilities of the HDR.
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Old 27-03-2010, 11:22
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I've tried Googling MediaHighway EPG, and there's not that much information about it. From what I've read, it seems to support the non-UK channels quite well, but the UK channels themselves are not supported.

However, apparently with the Topfield SRPs they support TAPs (C-based applications). I think there is a TAP for getting EPG data from the Radio Times website. However, until i get a Topfield SRP, I can't comment on how well this works.
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Old 27-03-2010, 16:24
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Yes, although I shouldn't have purchased this STB knowing it doesn't do timed recordings in non-freesat mode, I did so in the hope that a future FW upgrade would "enable" this functionality.

I can live without the FTP server, but too many times I want to record late night sports events (like Boxing from the USA), and I'm being forced to record for 8 hours because I cannot set a timer in non-freesat mode

Oh well, looks like I'll be selling up for a Topfield SRP-2410.
You do know that you can press red a second time and select the recording duration (works in freesat mode also)
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Old 27-03-2010, 20:52
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Hi Graham,

Yes, thanks for your tip. I realized this already, and use this often when I want to record a block of time and then go to bed.

Basically, my issue is that I want to record late night live boxing events. Non-freesat mode only supports starting recording manually, and not the timer mode. So for me the issue is I need to manually start the recording.

Tonight for example, there's one event on SAT.1 then at 3 in the morning another event on Dase Erste.

I'm away this weekend, but luckily I can connect via my Slingbox and start the recording manually. Then I can set my alarm clock for just before 3am, connect again with my Slingbox and record the other event on the other channel. In both cases, I will simply initiate the recording and like you say, will toggle through and select say 3 hours worth of recording.

However, I'm getting old now (38) and getting tired of setting the alarm clock :yawn:

For me, the Foxsat HDR is nearly perfect. It has great EPG for UK channels, but it just lacks the timer recording in non-Freesat mode. I can live with no FTP access (which the iCord has), but these late night alarms to manually start recording is just starting to get to me.

Ironically, I'll end up going for either a Topfield SRP 2100 or 2410, which have all the bells and whistles, but lack a decent UK Channel EPG.

When I get one of the Topfields, I'll report back her to let people know if I can use both STBs in pass-through mode to control the same motorized dish

Rob
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Old 28-03-2010, 08:29
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Shocked to be told by Humax that this couldn't be done on the Foxsat-HDR. Anyone got any workarounds?
I used to have a Memorex remote and you could set up to 8 timer events which you could set macros to fire off at given time, so you could set it to start up Humax at given time > select SAT.1> Record> Stop at given time> Turn Off Humax, this was quite an old remote but maybe there are remotes that can have this type of function about.
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Old 28-03-2010, 09:51
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I used to have a Memorex remote and you could set up to 8 timer events which you could set macros to fire off at given time, so you could set it to start up Humax at given time > select SAT.1> Record> Stop at given time> Turn Off Humax, this was quite an old remote but maybe there are remotes that can have this type of function about.
The one mentioned in this thread has a similar capability

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...ight=power+cut
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Old 28-03-2010, 13:11
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Hi Zetor and Graham,

Great idea -- I think I'll go for the Philips SBC RU 885, and see how that works out.

It's far cheaper than buying a new STB, and I get to keep my Freesat EPG when not in non-Freesat mode

Thanks guys !
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Old 18-04-2010, 12:48
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Hi again,

I ended up going for the One For All - Digital 12 (URC-7781) remote. It works quite well, but doesn't support an a "wait" function between key presses -- so you cannot really do a channel change then record in one timed macro. The lack of wait isn't really an issue as you can set a timed macro to change the channel if needed one minute before the other timed macro to record.

One thing to watch out for though. It's better to set up a timed macro to record for a period of time rather than record then three hours later stop (e.g. record button 2x, then the right button for every extra 10 minutes you want to record after the default 2 hours).

For my first timed recording, I made a timed macro to start the recording 3am, then another timed macro to stop the recording at 6 am. However the Foxsat HDR only recorded for two hours. Looking in the Foxsat manual, it seems that when you start a recording (without specifying the length) it will automatically stop when the EPG says the program will end.

Therefore, if you don't want a dodgy EPG data to stop your recording before it's intended stop time, be sure to do a timed macro which starts the recording AND defines how long to record for.

With Well Wishes,

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Old 18-04-2010, 20:23
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I hope Bobcat picks up on this thread and Humax implement something for the HDR Mk II.

Having non freesat and DISEQ is great but useless without recording ability that can runs simoultaneously in both modes and with epg's in both modes. If there are epg's that encompass the programmes not on Freesat then there must be some way of incoporating them into the box. Maybe with a reciprocal arrnagement ot give a generic manufacturer with a non freesat epg access to the freesat epg for their freesat mode?
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Old 19-04-2010, 21:38
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LOL..... I hope he picks up this thread and pushes to have timed recording in non-freesat mode on the original HDR

Anyways, I have my One For All Digital 12 now, and that does the trick for me. Luckily, no more late nights waiting up to start the recording on non-freesat channels.
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Old 26-04-2010, 19:52
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I ditched my Foxsat-HDR in favour of a Goodmans GFSDTR500HD a couple of months ago partly because of its easier access to non-freesat channels (List or Channel Up/Down). However, having experienced a reliability problem with the Goodmans, I'm now returning to the Humax fold.

I use a Logitech Harmony remote which allows you to programme multiple (original remote) key presses onto one Harmony key.

I would have liked to programme a Harmony key to set Freesat/non-Freesat mode. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a sequence of Menu, Up, Down, Right, Left etc keys that will always work as the Foxsat returns you to the last Menu location you used.

Has anyone found a way to program a non-Freesat mode setting key which will consistently work with a Harmony remote?
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Old 26-04-2010, 19:56
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I ditched my Foxsat-HDR in favour of a Goodmans GFSDTR500HD a couple of months ago partly because of its easier access to non-freesat channels (List or Channel Up/Down). However, having experienced a reliability problem with the Goodmans, I'm now returning to the Humax fold.

I use a Logitech Harmony remote which allows you to programme multiple (original remote) key presses onto one Harmony key.

I would have liked to programme a Harmony key to set Freesat/non-Freesat mode. The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a sequence of Menu, Up, Down, Right, Left etc keys that will always work as the Foxsat returns you to the last Menu location you used.

Has anyone found a way to program a non-Freesat mode setting key which will consistently work with a Harmony remote?
The only way afaik is quit the menu from the same option each time
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Old 26-04-2010, 20:24
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The only way afaik is quit the menu from the same option each time
Thanks, Graham. Well, if you don't know way, I'll take that as conclusive. Shame, but it was worth asking.
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