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yohinnchild
26-03-2010
Hey Guys,

Just to let you know there is a poll running on the GMTV website...

Who Would You Like to Win?

Hayley - 71%
Kieron - 15%
Gary - 14%

Although its probably safe to say alot of Kieron/ Gary's fanbases' are probably at school

Voting here - http://www.gm.tv/
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
I'd say this poll is much more like reality than the poll on here. It'll be a fight between Kieron and Gary for Bolero.

Though Kieron's will now shoot up into inaccuracy after being posted here.
yohinnchild
26-03-2010
Now...

Hayley - 69%
Kieron - 17%
Gary - 14%
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Now...

Hayley - 69%
Kieron - 17%
Gary - 14%”

Told you
yohinnchild
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“I'd say this poll is much more like reality than the poll on here. It'll be a fight between Kieron and Gary for Bolero.

Though Kieron's will now shoot up into inaccuracy after being posted here. ”

Surely if people on here are voting and voting on the GMTV poll is hardly skewed... but then every poll is skewed and inaccurrate in some way
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Surely if people on here are voting and voting on the GMTV poll is hardly skewed... but then every poll is skewed and inaccurrate in some way ”

Surely if the people on DS had any say, Kieron wouldn't have been in the bottom two twice?

I don't trust the online polls. I think it's closer between Gary and Kieron then people think. So maybe I should just shush and let Kieron fans have a false sense of security.
yohinnchild
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“Surely if the people on DS had any say, Kieron wouldn't have been in the bottom two twice?

I don't trust the online polls. I think it's closer between Gary and Kieron then people think. So maybe I should just shush and let Kieron fans have a false sense of security. ”

Its true.. same with Danniella... which is why the polls always hold a huge amount of inaccuracy.

I dont think Kieron will win - it will be a battle for 2nd place between Gary and Kieron and I agree with you its gonna be alot closer between them than on here states.

The only was to secure their 2nd place is to vote, vote, vote.

IMO Hayley has it in the bag now - will love to be proved wrong, but I cant see it going any other way really - not unless Gary and Kieron pull something huge out of the bag. Or there is a general backlash due to Jason's comments
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“I'd say this poll is much more like reality than the poll on here. It'll be a fight between Kieron and Gary for Bolero.

Though Kieron's will now shoot up into inaccuracy after being posted here. ”

Hah but it wouln't be inaccuracies, because Kieron fans would want Kieron to win and vote for him, so it would be accurate. Gary fans are of course welcome to do the same.

Originally Posted by yohinnchild:
“Surely if people on here are voting and voting on the GMTV poll is hardly skewed... but then every poll is skewed and inaccurrate in some way ”

It's all a fix I tell you. Someone on another thread seemed to hit the nail on the head. Different population on here and on the GMTV poll, and thus different distributions.
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Hah but it wouln't be inaccuracies, because Kieron fans would want Kieron to win and vote for him, so it would be accurate. Gary fans are of course welcome to do the same.”

Like I said to yohinnchild, I believe the support for K on DS is inaccurate.
lulu g
26-03-2010
I agree that Hayley probably is well ahead (though maybe not by quite as much as the GMTV poll suggests) and that the real - and, in my view, more interesting - contest is between K and G for second place.
yohinnchild
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“Like I said to yohinnchild, I believe the support for K on DS is inaccurate.”

In the wider scheme of things the pocket of Kieron support here is most probably in accurate - Maybe Kieron fans are just more internet based and prone to using DS.

Its obvious in part this is the case as otherwise he wouldn't have been in 2 skate offs and would be sailing through each week - same with Danniella - she was a high flyer in the weekly polls, yet ended up bottom 2 three times.
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“Like I said to yohinnchild, I believe the support for K on DS is inaccurate.”

Why do you think that is? I'm honestly interested. I'm a Psychologist, and I'm doing a lot of stats for my research. Do you think that the forum is frequented by a lot of young people watching Hollyoaks? Certainly, it's not inaccurate in the confined world of the forum, although it might not be possible to generalise it to the whole DOI voting population though. However, the same might apply to the GMTV forum (I don't watch GMTV and wouldn't have looked at the poll). To a certain degree, I assume people voting on the polls will watch the final, although they might not necessarily vote. As such we still don't know what is going to happen on Sunday night.
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
I don't think Hayley will win by that much. In fact, if Kieron makes the top two I can see his fans going mad with votes and he could snatch it. Although the thought of him doing Bolero is a little... offputting. I don't think it'll be his thing.

However if Gary makes it, I can see his fans, including me, just sighing a relief that he gets to skate Bolero and then just relaxing.

Anyway, I predict a win by 40% for Hayley.
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Why do you think that is? I'm honestly interested. I'm a Psychologist, and I'm doing a lot of stats for my research. Do you think that the forum is frequented by a lot of young people watching Hollyoaks? Certainly, it's not inaccurate in the confined world of the forum, although it might not be possible to generalise it to the whole DOI voting population though. However, the same might apply to the GMTV forum (I don't watch GMTV and wouldn't have looked at the poll). To a certain degree, I assume people voting on the polls will watch the final, although they might not necessarily vote. As such we still don't know what is going to happen on Sunday night.”

It's the two bottom two appearances that makes me feel like he's not topping the vote like he is on here. Also, we know Gary beat him on props week and he beat Gary last week. Yet in the DS poll they're not even close.

How can that not suggest inaccuracy?
lulu g
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Why do you think that is? I'm honestly interested. I'm a Psychologist, and I'm doing a lot of stats for my research. Do you think that the forum is frequented by a lot of young people watching Hollyoaks? Certainly, it's not inaccurate in the confined world of the forum, although it might not be possible to generalise it to the whole DOI voting population though. However, the same might apply to the GMTV forum (I don't watch GMTV and wouldn't have looked at the poll). To a certain degree, I assume people voting on the polls will watch the final, although they might not necessarily vote. As such we still don't know what is going to happen on Sunday night.”

I don't know what the proportions are, but I have the impression that a fair number of DS forum members who support Kieron are not necessarily in the first flush of youth.
Tissy
26-03-2010
The poll on here had Chris well ahead of Suzanne a couple of years ago - bet a fiver with my brother that Chris would win however I was delighted to hand him over the £5
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“It's the two bottom two appearances that makes me feel like he's not topping the vote like he is on here. Also, we know Gary beat him on props week and he beat Gary last week. Yet in the DS poll they're not even close.

How can that not suggest inaccuracy? ”

Ah but the voting behaviour in those weeks was probably due a variety of different factors. Gary was bottom in props week, and got a grilling from Jason again. A lot of people would have voted for him, just because he was in the bottom.

The same applies to Kieron last week, although it is surprising that Daniella (who shared the bottom with him) did not benefit from the same thing (could be because there were only so few people left). The poll was not as static as in previous years IMO. I know that I voted for a variety of different people this year, and I'm sure there are quite a few others on here who did as well.

By the way, I'm not saying that the poll on here will predict the outcome of DOI, but in the confines of the forum, it's not inaccurate (as we cannot vote twice on it).
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“I don't know what the proportions are, but I have the impression that a fair number of DS forum members who support Kieron are not necessarily in the first flush of youth.”

I know for a fact they aren't (being 36 myself, or maybe that is the first flush of youth).
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Ah but the voting behaviour in those weeks was probably due a variety of different factors. Gary was bottom in props week, and got a grilling from Jason again. A lot of people would have voted for him, just because he was in the bottom.

The same applies to Kieron last week, although it is surprising that Daniella (who shared the bottom with him) did not benefit from the same thing (could be because there were only so few people left). The poll was not as static as in previous years IMO. I know that I voted for a variety of different people this year, and I'm sure there are quite a few others on here who did as well.

By the way, I'm not saying that the poll on here will predict the outcome of DOI, but in the confines of the forum, it's not inaccurate (as we cannot vote twice on it).”

I still think it's inaccurate. Along with what I've already mentioned, we don't know how many of the people voting in the poll are even picking up their phones and voting... Seems not too many.

Ray was winning all polls last year, Donal second, Jess third. Maybe the odd time Jess was second by a few percent but it was mainly in the right order. This year will be different as Hayley is no Ray, everyone knows that, so who knows?

I would just die laughing if it is Gary and Kieron doing the Bolero. It would be really exciting and unpredictable and perfect for me.
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“I still think it's inaccurate. Along with what I've already mentioned, we don't know how many of the people voting in the poll are even picking up their phones and voting... Seems not too many.

Ray was winning all polls last year, Donal second, Jess third. Maybe the odd time Jess was second by a few percent but it was mainly in the right order. This year will be different as Hayley is no Ray, everyone knows that, so who knows?

I would just die laughing if it is Gary and Kieron doing the Bolero. It would be really exciting and unpredictable and perfect for me. ”

I would love to see Jason's face, they probably would need to retain him and admit him to a mental health hospital, he would probably spit fire and venom..

No disrespect to Hayley fans, but that would be hilarious.
tiddleboo
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Why do you think that is? I'm honestly interested. I'm a Psychologist, and I'm doing a lot of stats for my research. Do you think that the forum is frequented by a lot of young people watching Hollyoaks? Certainly, it's not inaccurate in the confined world of the forum, although it might not be possible to generalise it to the whole DOI voting population though. However, the same might apply to the GMTV forum (I don't watch GMTV and wouldn't have looked at the poll). To a certain degree, I assume people voting on the polls will watch the final, although they might not necessarily vote. As such we still don't know what is going to happen on Sunday night.”

Heres one for you lach doch mal, I am 32, have never watched Hollyoaks, and am totally behind keiron. I would love him to win but i'm not mental, so will settle for seeing his bolero.

My main reason for supporting him at the beginning? He is the spitting image of my younger brother. Analyze that!
Eejit
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish:
“How can that not suggest inaccuracy? ”

It's not inaccuracy though. It's a poll of DS users - so it's only telling you the opinion of DS users. And Kieron is currently the DS fave. In the same way, the GMTV poll is telling you the opinions of GMTV viewers, and Hayley is their fave. Neither poll is inaccurate, it just isn't claiming necessarily to represent the views of the whole population, and certainly not the percentage of votes (which also depends on multiple voting etc). Both polls are skewed. One towards people who watch GMTV, the other towards people who are members of DS. Neither is likely to be exactly representative.

It's the same thing on Twitter - if you were to believe that, Kieron would be well ahead, with Gary securely in second place, and Hayley trailing. But all the twitter followers totals tells you really is who the people who use twitter like following on twitter... (Or possibly just that Kieron's twitter feed is a lot more entertaining than Hayley's )
Strictly_Irish
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“It's not inaccuracy though. It's a poll of DS users - so it's only telling you the opinion of DS users. And Kieron is currently the DS fave. In the same way, the GMTV poll is telling you the opinions of GMTV viewers, and Hayley is their fave. Neither poll is inaccurate, it just isn't claiming necessarily to represent the views of the whole population, and certainly not the percentage of votes (which also depends on multiple voting etc). Both polls are skewed. One towards people who watch GMTV, the other towards people who are members of DS. Neither is likely to be exactly representative.

It's the same thing on Twitter - if you were to believe that, Kieron would be well ahead, with Gary securely in second place, and Hayley trailing. But all the twitter followers totals tells you really is who the people who use twitter like following on twitter... (Or possibly just that Kieron's twitter feed is a lot more entertaining than Hayley's )”

It's inaccurate in terms of the public vote, which I made clear.
lach doch mal
26-03-2010
Originally Posted by tiddleboo:
“Heres one for you lach doch mal, I am 32, have never watched Hollyoaks, and am totally behind keiron. I would love him to win but i'm not mental, so will settle for seeing his bolero.

My main reason for supporting him at the beginning? He is the spitting image of my younger brother. Analyze that! ”

I hope you do realise that I don't think that Kieron's main supporters are young Hollyoaks watchers. I just chose the most controversial "population" (like middle aged housewifes for Gary). As I said, I'm certainly not a spring chicken, and I really dislike Hollyoakes (even when I was younger).

I'm not the analysing (tell me about your problems) kind of psychologist by the way. I'm a researcher and lecturer. I just use a lot of stats in my work, so I have an inkling into how some of these polls work (from a stats point of view).
gazb2
26-03-2010
Thanks for putting this up. The STV website are doing the same poll. However, they have worded the question different and it asks "Who do you think will win Dancing on Ice" Results:

Hayley - 68%
Kieron - 16%
Gary - 15%

Poll - http://entertainment.stv.tv/tv/16587...-is-all-about/
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