What planet is she on? Who writes her script?
Bolero is a"song"!!!???
Ah, come on, it is a live show, it was just a slip-up in the heat of the moment, give her a break!! :yawn:
Originally Posted by Vientre:
“Just shows shes a true blonde”
“Just shows shes a true blonde”
Of course she is. Just like all those other TV blondes.
I did giggle at that. But there WAS a "choir" of sorts, singing (well, aaaaahhhhh-ing) so I suppose it could have been a "song"!
Bless Holly. She's so sweet.
Bless Holly. She's so sweet.
Slip of the tongue in a life show. I give presentations at academic conferences and in lectures at Uni and you make more mistakes than anything else.
Originally Posted by lach doch mal:
“Slip of the tongue in a life show. I give presentations at academic conferences and in lectures at Uni and you make more mistakes than anything else.”
“Slip of the tongue in a life show. I give presentations at academic conferences and in lectures at Uni and you make more mistakes than anything else.”
Problem gets worse when you do the next academic thing and spot and correct each of your mistakes/misspokes and ambiguities ....... or even worse start debating to yourself in front of the barely awake anyway student mass whether a song is a tune or not...........
They have to dumb it down for the ever increasing chav audience by using simple words like "song" to mean any piece of music as an ever growing section of their audience are hardly educated in anything outside of the charts.
ITV seem to have turned their whole station into the Chav channel with shouting like a moron over anything and everything just to get themselves noticed. And instead of someone actually educating them to the fact that you don't ever talk over the top of someone leave alone scream shout and Boo like an animal over everything, they actively encourage the chav audience to do it. Ant and Dec's show is aimed at the same people.
Sad when just to chase ratings, you have to forget educated people and cater only for the gobby chavs.
ITV seem to have turned their whole station into the Chav channel with shouting like a moron over anything and everything just to get themselves noticed. And instead of someone actually educating them to the fact that you don't ever talk over the top of someone leave alone scream shout and Boo like an animal over everything, they actively encourage the chav audience to do it. Ant and Dec's show is aimed at the same people.
Sad when just to chase ratings, you have to forget educated people and cater only for the gobby chavs.
What on earth was she talking about, saying Torville and Dean made that song famous when everybody knows that Jo-Mo Ravel wrote Bolero as the soundtrack for 10.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Problem gets worse when you do the next academic thing and spot and correct each of your mistakes/misspokes and ambiguities ....... or even worse start debating to yourself in front of the barely awake anyway student mass whether a song is a tune or not...........”
“Problem gets worse when you do the next academic thing and spot and correct each of your mistakes/misspokes and ambiguities ....... or even worse start debating to yourself in front of the barely awake anyway student mass whether a song is a tune or not...........”
It's nice to see that I'm not the only one having problems with that
, . I think a lot of people underestimate the difficulty of presenting "live".
She is a highly overpaid "Professional" and as such should not make errors.
But then if she was not a highly over rated Blonde, we probably wouldn't even know she existed.
Maz
But then if she was not a highly over rated Blonde, we probably wouldn't even know she existed.
Maz
Originally Posted by Mazrim Taim:
“She is a highly overpaid "Professional" and as such should not make errors.
But then if she was not a highly over rated Blonde, we probably wouldn't even know she existed.
Maz”
“She is a highly overpaid "Professional" and as such should not make errors.
But then if she was not a highly over rated Blonde, we probably wouldn't even know she existed.
Maz”
Even professionals occasionally make errors otherwise we wouldn't be subjected to so many bloopers shows.
There is hope in honest error, none in the icy perfection of the mere stylist.
What's supposed to be the big problem with calling it a song? 
It seems ridiculously pedantic to object just because it doesn't feature any singing.
It seems ridiculously pedantic to object just because it doesn't feature any singing.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“What's supposed to be the big problem with calling it a song?
It seems ridiculously pedantic to object just because it doesn't feature any singing.”
“What's supposed to be the big problem with calling it a song?
It seems ridiculously pedantic to object just because it doesn't feature any singing.”
From the "Compact Oxford English Dictionary"
Quote:
“Song
• noun: 1: a poem or other set of words set to music. 2: singing or vocal music. 3: the musical phrases uttered by some birds, whales, and insects. 4: a poem, especially one in rhymed stanzas.”
“Song
• noun: 1: a poem or other set of words set to music. 2: singing or vocal music. 3: the musical phrases uttered by some birds, whales, and insects. 4: a poem, especially one in rhymed stanzas.”
We rest our case.
Maz
Originally Posted by Mazrim Taim:
“From the "Compact Oxford English Dictionary"
...
We rest our case.
Maz”
“From the "Compact Oxford English Dictionary"
...
We rest our case.
Maz”
Is that supposed to be contrary to anything I said, somehow?
Sure, it's not technically a song according to the dictionary definition, but so what? It's a very pedantic and nit-picking reason to object to what she aid.
Agree with Veri.
And as has been said, when you're standing in front of a camera/audience then it can be so easy for the wrong thing to slip out.
And as has been said, when you're standing in front of a camera/audience then it can be so easy for the wrong thing to slip out.
I really don't see why it's a problem either.
I'm trained classically and we would often refer to a piece of music as a "song". Generally speaking we were more interested in actually playing or hearing the music, than in debating what we should call it.
Professionals make mistakes. Everyone does. When you're talking, words come out, and you're lucky if every word is a carefully planned one.
I've just plugged the word "song" into a few different dictionaries and amongst the definitions is the following:
A collection of sounds
A musical melody
I'm trained classically and we would often refer to a piece of music as a "song". Generally speaking we were more interested in actually playing or hearing the music, than in debating what we should call it.
Professionals make mistakes. Everyone does. When you're talking, words come out, and you're lucky if every word is a carefully planned one.
I've just plugged the word "song" into a few different dictionaries and amongst the definitions is the following:
A collection of sounds
A musical melody
Originally Posted by samiskim:
“Bolero is a song without words!!
”
“Bolero is a song without words!!
”
Well said!
I love classical music but Bolero is, ahem, rather modern for my tastes since Ravel was a 20th century composer. That's practically pop music in my book, so referring to Bolero as a song is not such a great faux pas.
Indeed, going back a bit further in the classical oeuvre, Mendelssohn wrote eight volumes of 'Songs without Words', each volume consisting of six such 'songs', which were simply solo pieces for the piano. I could be wrong on this, but I think he coined the phrase.
When is a song not a song? When it's a tone poem.
Originally Posted by peeve:
“Well said!
I love classical music but Bolero is, ahem, rather modern for my tastes since Ravel was a 20th century composer. That's practically pop music in my book, so referring to Bolero as a song is not such a great faux pas.
Indeed, going back a bit further in the classical oeuvre, Mendelssohn wrote eight volumes of 'Songs without Words', each volume consisting of six such 'songs', which were simply solo pieces for the piano. I could be wrong on this, but I think he coined the phrase.
When is a song not a song? When it's a tone poem.”
“Well said!
I love classical music but Bolero is, ahem, rather modern for my tastes since Ravel was a 20th century composer. That's practically pop music in my book, so referring to Bolero as a song is not such a great faux pas.
Indeed, going back a bit further in the classical oeuvre, Mendelssohn wrote eight volumes of 'Songs without Words', each volume consisting of six such 'songs', which were simply solo pieces for the piano. I could be wrong on this, but I think he coined the phrase.
When is a song not a song? When it's a tone poem.
”
Yes, that is undoubtedly what Holly had in mind.
Originally Posted by lulu g:
“Yes, that is undoubtedly what Holly had in mind.”
“Yes, that is undoubtedly what Holly had in mind.”
Whether she meant that or not, peeve has a point.
