I'm sure you're right - nor do I think we'll hear from those who, by their own admission, were anticipating a good gloat if Hayley didn't deliver.

Just looking at these %s closer, I'm very surprised at Gary and Maria polling quite highly in the ranks compared to the hate on DS. And I was right, it was extremely close between him and Kieron the week Gary was bottom two with Daniella.

I'm quite happy with those figures as I like Mikey and Gary. Kieron really wasn't all that popular at all throughout the series.

I'm still laughing at that final figure. I'm wondering if other Gary fans did what I did and just thought "Yay we got Bolero!" and just relaxed. Knew they were wasting their money.

Hayley got a higher percentage than Ray!

Gosh, I'm very glad they got rid of Mikey when they did, otherwise he could seriously have been doing Bolero, which would just have been a bit embarrassing for everyone...

Interesting that despite all the pundits claiming that Daniella was the only challenger to Hayley, both Gary and Kieron beat her almost every single week in the public vote. Even her 'You've Got the Look' performance put her second bottom of the public vote...

In contrast to those gloating that she has delivered. I'm one of the people, who admitted that we don't know zilch, but that we to a certain degree can deduce that her support must be good enough to not have ended up in the skate off when she was second on the leaderboard (I compared it to SCD where Emma and Alesha both ended up in the dance off in the final four).

It's great that she had such good support, and we should keep this in mind for our DS voting poll next year. I would like to know the voting figures (how many votes overall).

I have to admit to having a little gloat on Sunday, my excuse is 3 glasses of wine I will also admit to enjoying the gloating even if it wasn't really the right thing to do. I enjoyed the wine too It was a good night on Sunday.

Mikey wasn't much worse than Kieron who, lets be fair, was very lucky to have made third.

Mikey's the one who could have threatened Gary's second so I am a bit relieved that he went, though I like him.

I don't think we should really ever expect the DS poll to reflect the voters on DOI more generally. It's just telling you the support on DS. But then that's always been the case.

I'm not exactly surprised at Hayley's big lead, though we could never really be sure, given her high placings on the scoretable each week.

That's the best excuse in the world. I had some as well, which probably explains why I was stalking you.

Interesting stuff. I'm surprised Danny didn't do better with the public though.

Good on ITV for publishing the numbers once again - I really wish the BEEB would follow suit for Strictly

She whooped them ldm It makes it twice as enjoyable.

Yeah, right, Strictly. Your hatred for Kieron is legendary, but give it a rest. Mikey was pretty awful - even he accepted that he didn't deserve to stay. The final three boys were all pretty good in different ways. The only person Kieron beat who more popular than him by the end was Mikey, so I'm struggling to see how you think he didn't deserve third, but then it's probably a bit much to expect logic from you...

Well it's certainly interesting. It means that the forum is a bad statistical sample to generalise to the whole DOI voting population. I'll keep it in mind for next year. I still would like to know the overall figures (e.g. a 50% lead is easier if only 10 people voted, and out of those 10, 2 or 3 are repetition votes). Before I get jumped upon, I don't think that has happened here. It's interesting that Hayley's support shot up when she was put 2nd on the leader board, being beaten by IMO a slightly questionable mark for Daniella.

With all due respect the DS poll is usually out because it is not representative of popular opinion.

Now you are baiting me, aren't you. I won't raise to it. Must resist........


I agree with Eejit, I think you let your favouritism get in the way of your logic. Mikey was nowhere near as good as Daniella, Gary or Kieron. I really liked Mikey by the way. He didn't improve though. I must check up how many votes Mikey got after the whole, I'm injured episode. Back in a minute.

"My hatred of Kieron is legendary"? What? I like him & I can find old posts to prove it. I still think he was lucky to get third. And I also think Gary was lucky to get second, in that Mikey was eliminated even though he came second in the vote.

You're one to talk though, having a swipe at Mikey and Gaey whenever you get the chance.

And you don't think Eejit's gets in the way? I'd look up past posts if I were you.

Like I've said, I like Kieron but he was grossly overrated on here. And I know Daniella and Gary were better than Mikey, I didn't debate that.

I think Mikey's routine on Sunday night and at the beginning of the series showed he was clearly shaken by the death of his close friend (which they didn't mention on the show) and his injuries.

Maybe the tour will show more.

It's not always out (some years in SCD, it was spot on), and I made the statement above that the DS poll in this particular example was a bad sample from which we cannot generalise to the DOI voting population (so why do you refer to "with all due respect").

I mentioned it before, I'm a researcher and I work with statistics, so I understand how statistics work and how they can be manipulated (I don't say they have been manipulated in this case btw).

People on here are interested in DOI, and quite a few people on here vote. As such, IMO it's interesting that it isn't a better reflection of the real voting patterns.

Ah, but I was dealing with your post. I have responded to Eeji before when I didn't agree with him/her. I can't always agree with you or defend your favourites.

IMO Mikey wasn't better than Kieron, he was worse by quite a margin. Whether this was due to the loss of his friend, his injuries or the fact that he was promoting their album is something that can be considered from a fan's point of view. I feel certainly very sympathetic towards him. However, it doesn't change the fact that Kieron overall was better, and he suffered from injuries as well and was also working in Hollyoaks (not that he deserves any "free ride" for that either). Kieron got better, Mikey stagnated (IMO obviously)

Anyone clever enough to do a spreadsheet showing public leader board each week in order?

Cos I`m too thick

See Mikey beat Hayley week 8 - was that the week he fell ?

Please don't be patronising, I never asked you to always agree.

I'm just confused as to why two Kieron fans (and I know you are one) can call someone who is clearly a Gary fan biased towards Mikey all the while defending Kieron, their favourite.

I admit I've been biased towards Gary but I'm speaking what I feel now, so please don't call me biased and act like you aren't.

Yet the next time the question comes up, we'll probably still have people claiming DS polls tell us how the general public thinks.

Just as we'll have people claiming dance experience doesn't give anyone an advantage, even though Hayley showed even more conclusively than Ray that it does.



I feel vindicated in my decision not to vote this year.

I wonder how many suckers -- sorry, voters -- there were.

Perhaps I missed them (I don't read every post, or every thread), but I don't recall seeing people making that claim, only that we had no way of knowing how much public support Hayley had because she was (almost) always top of the judges' leaderboard.

Gosh - the Daily Star were right for once !!

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/...vourite-to-win

Another sucker here - first and last time I shall vote but Hayley and Dan were worth it.

wow, surprised at that - just goes to show that the judges scoreboard and the public can turn the whole competition.

I thought Daniella was more popular than Hayley, and that Danny would have more votes being young , single and pretty hot (phew - must be careful Mr T about) - just goes to show what do I knw

agree with previous poster about time strictly followed suit -