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Jason and the Kid Remark.
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Chris1347
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“To be fair, Jason's comments were almost certainly a big help in getting him to the final two, so it worked out pretty well for him, really.”



Plus the fact he was the best skater left in the competition, it is about skating as well as dancing and performing!
maureens
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by xKatieLx:
“I laughed about it.

So'd my mum and sister.

It was the truth though although it probobaly got him more votes. ”

i laughed too(even more when he said it after i sent a txt saying the same thing) I am not saying Gary is not proud of his daughter of course, she is lovely.
Daewos
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by Eejit:
“To be fair, Jason's comments were almost certainly a big help in getting him to the final two, so it worked out pretty well for him, really.”

Or maybe, just maybe, people liked his performances tonight. Heresy i know.
princesarock12
28-03-2010
It was only what everyone was thinking!
kalouk
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by Chris1347:
“Plus the fact he was the best skater left in the competition, it is about skating as well as dancing and performing!”

But that argument could be twisted the other way in that it is about dancing and performing as well as skating and imo opinion Gary didn't master those really. Can I add I have no axe to grind and that I prefered Gary's bolero but I really do feel Jason may have lost Keiron a place in the final two with his stupid comment!
omgwtfbbq
28-03-2010
I thought it was hilarious, because when you watch something like this, or the X Factor which would be an even better example, you always wish one of the judges would call out the sob stories instead of just buying them.
Pices-55
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by kalouk:
“But that argument could be twisted the other way in that it is about dancing and performing as well as skating and imo opinion Gary didn't master those really. Can I add I have no axe to grind and that I prefered Gary's bolero but I really do feel Jason may have lost Keiron a place in the final two with his stupid comment!”

I really doubt it made a jot of difference, Kieron did not have the public support, he had been in the skate off at least 3 times, if my memory is correct.
kalouk
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“I really doubt it made a jot of difference, Kieron did not have the public support, he had been in the skate off at least 3 times, if my memory is correct.”

But he did have the public support as recently as last week.
Pices-55
28-03-2010
Originally Posted by kalouk:
“But he did have the public support as recently as last week.”

It does not change the fact that he was in the bottom 2 many times, it just shows he never had as much support as people thought.
kalouk
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“It does not change the fact that he was in the bottom 2 many times, it just shows he never had as much support as people thought.”

I don't see how him being in the bottom two previously has any bearing. When it came down to the last four a week he had more votes than two of them so he must have had a fair bit of the public support.
Tiger Rose
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I thought there was an element of truth to what Jason said BUT he's there to judge Gary's performance only, so he should have refrained from making those comments about the VT”

Agreed. It's one thing posters in an internet forum saying it but quite another for Jason to say it live on a show when the kid herself is in the audience.
Pices-55
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by kalouk:
“I don't see how him being in the bottom two previously has any bearing. When it came down to the last four a week he had more votes than two of them so he must have had a fair bit of the public support.”

Yes, but not as much support as those who had not been in the bottom 2, now I know that Gary was in his first week but he never was again, so I am saying its very likely that Gary always had more support than Kieron and nothing to do with Jasons comments.
Darcyprincess
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Betti Swollocks:
“Just plain nasty in my opinion.

Gary's daughter is a delightful little girl and so what if Gary was wanting to win for her.

Jason just goes so over the top with his cattiness at times.
The fecal matter and his downer on certain contestants this year has made me not just not want to see him on my screen again.”

I totally agree with you! Although Gary might have laid it on a little thick at times I think that it is very obvious how much his little girl adores her daddy and how much he adores and loves her too! I also agree that India is a delightful little girl and it was very sweet to see her cheering on her daddy and blowing him a kiss. Like others have said if Jason has got any gripes about it he should be having a go at the production team and the editors! It was them that kept showing her on camera not Gary!

As for Jason, he is so unpleasant and disgusting to certain people and blatantly has nasty dislikes for some and shows favourtism for others that he does not come over as being professional or a fair judge. It is not as if he is actually giving constructive critiscism. I think that it is high time that they got rid of the nasty, spiteful, evil Jason Gardiner and get somebody that will give good constructive critiscism and help people that are having problems rather than putting them down and trying to make them look small!
Fudd
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“It does not change the fact that he was in the bottom 2 many times, it just shows he never had as much support as people thought.”

He was in the bottom 2 twice (weeks 5 and 10) - the same number of times as Gary (weeks 3 and 11).
Darcyprincess
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by kalouk:
“But that argument could be twisted the other way in that it is about dancing and performing as well as skating and imo opinion Gary didn't master those really. Can I add I have no axe to grind and that I prefered Gary's bolero but I really do feel Jason may have lost Keiron a place in the final two with his stupid comment!”

I am sorry, but I dont agree. I think that Gary earned his place in the final and considering Garys scores were higher than Kierons last week and it should have been Gary that went through and Kieron should have been in the skate off I think that Kieron was very lucky to even have been in the final. Because even Robin Cousins said on this morning last Monday, that had it had been Kieron and Daniella in the skate of last week then he was certain that the judges would have saved Daniella over Kieron!

I think that Kieron has improved immensely over the weeks but the right two were definitely in the final two tonight! Gary totally upped his game tonight and Hayley was definitely the best since week 1!
kalouk
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Pices-55:
“Yes, but not as much support as those who had not been in the bottom 2, now I know that Gary was in his first week but he never was again, so I am saying its very likely that Gary always had more support than Kieron and nothing to do with Jasons comments.”

Pisces I really don't mean to appear dense but wouldn't the fact that the Judges always seemed to place Gary quite highly on the leaderboard and the public could do nothing about that.
I supported Keiron all the way through but I hope you don't think I am some bitter and twisted fan with an axe to grind I am truly not. It is just something I think could have had a baring on the votes and have enjoyed discussing with you
p.s I think Jason should be ashamed and that as a parent I admire Gary for not rising to the vile little man.
RichmondBlue
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by princesarock12:
“It was only what everyone was thinking!”

Yes, I thought it..but I wouldn't have said it with the little girl sitting in the audience !
Besides, they ALL do something or other to pick up sympathy votes..why pick on Gary ?
Hayley with her tears, and the "special relaionship" with her childhood friend. Best experience of her life, I'll never forget it, etc etc.
Kieron with his..I came into this as a shy boy, I'm leaving as a man. Do me a favour.
It's all a bit sick inducing, but presumably the producers think it's what the public wants.
Jason Gardiner is a walking advert for abortion, they should get rid of the slime bag before someone does him some serious harm.
kalouk
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“I am sorry, but I dont agree. I think that Gary earned his place in the final and considering Garys scores were higher than Kierons last week and it should have been Gary that went through and Kieron should have been in the skate off I think that Kieron was very lucky to even have been in the final. Because even Robin Cousins said on this morning last Monday, that had it had been Kieron and Daniella in the skate of last week then he was certain that the judges would have saved Daniella over Kieron!

I think that Kieron has improved immensely over the weeks but the right two were definitely in the final two tonight! Gary totally upped his game tonight and Hayley was definitely the best since week 1!”

This is sort of my point though in that Gary had higher judges marks but Keiron went through not by luck but by public votes. On last weeks skate I would have disagreed with the judges if they had kept Daniella over Keiron she never seemed to be confident skating on her own but what do I know. I agree about Hayley and I prefered Garys Bolero, I just wonder if Jason might have swayed some viewers.
Totally Wicked
29-03-2010
Over sensitive over emotional besotted parental claptrap!

Go read your post back and see how you really come across.

This is all that is wrong with the world, parents who don't give a damn and the hysterical world revolves around them and can't see it any other way sort as here.

Seems to have worked on you lot the very people this sort of corruption is aimed at. They know people like you exist and so stuff a child in front of a camera and they know you lot will go weak at the knees and scream hysterically.

Case proven by this thread and the utterly ridiculous responses.

Of course you can't see the obvious, you simply refuse to!

Bit pointless anyone trying to explain it to you really.
Darcyprincess
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by kalouk:
“This is sort of my point though in that Gary had higher judges marks but Keiron went through not by luck but by public votes. On last weeks skate I would have disagreed with the judges if they had kept Daniella over Keiron she never seemed to be confident skating on her own but what do I know. I agree about Hayley and I prefered Garys Bolero, I just wonder if Jason might have swayed some viewers.”

Well, on the one hand you could be right with the fact that Jason put a lot of voters backs up by constantly having a dig at Gary and then saying what he did about his daughter, but I think that the reason Gary has struggled to go through and was in the skate off last week was purely because some voters were sick of the production team constantly putting his daughter on camera and trying to sway the voters for Gary! I dont blame Gary for this at all, because it was the production and editing teams that done it and not Gary!

I personally think that Gary totally got through on merit tonight. Great skating, more emotion and better performance tonight. Although I still think that Hayley was in a completely different league to either Gary or Kieron.

I dont think that Kieron was as good this week as the previous couple of weeks. He had a slight trip and one of his lifts were not that good in his first performance this week!

For the first time ever I actually agree with Jason, the British public were spot on this week!
Totally Wicked
29-03-2010
I think questions should be asked about parents who allow their children to be exploited in this way.

What vile little man uses children to promote themselves?
RichmondBlue
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“Over sensitive over emotional besotted parental claptrap!

Go read your post back and see how you really come across.

This is all that is wrong with the world, parents who don't give a damn and the hysterical world revolves around them and can't see it any other way sort as here.

Seems to have worked on you lot the very people this sort of corruption is aimed at. They know people like you exist and so stuff a child in front of a camera and they know you lot will go weak at the knees and scream hysterically.

Case proven by this thread and the utterly ridiculous responses.

Of course you can't see the obvious, you simply refuse to!

Bit pointless anyone trying to explain it to you really.”

Yeah, perhaps you would care to explain the mention of child abuse in some of your earlier posts ?
Sounds to me like you are a bit of a sicko.
sweetiepie31
29-03-2010
Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.
Fudd
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“I think questions should be asked about parents who allow their children to be exploited in this way.

What vile little man uses children to promote themselves?”

Bar week 3 I wouldn't really say he did use her to promote himself. The use of her sitting in the audience were camera shots chosen by the editor/producer. The interviews regarding her were edited by the production team.

Admittedly he left himself open by saying he could be filmed at home, but other than that he did little wrong, and there's no evidence to state that he's anything other than a brilliant father.
Fudd
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by sweetiepie31:
“Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.”

I wonder whether Jason will be all insulted by this and convinently (sp?) forget that he refused to shake Sharron's hand a few weeks back?
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