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Daewos
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“I think questions should be asked about parents who allow their children to be exploited in this way.

What vile little man uses children to promote themselves?”

Whenever I think this forum can't get any worse I am proved wrong. When talking about vile I would suggest you take a good look in the mirror.
Strictly_Irish
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by sweetiepie31:
“Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.”

Excellent! Oh I do love Gary. :P

How dare Jason speak about Gary and his daughter in such a disrespectful manner. I thought the VT was a bit full on but he loves her and she's just a little girl. 4 years old, I mean, come on Jason. His girlfriend just looked so proud when he skated Bolero, they're a sweet family.
Totally Wicked
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Daewos:
“Whenever I think this forum can't get any worse I am proved wrong. When talking about vile I would suggest you take a good look in the mirror.”

HA HA HA! You fell right into the trap!

I wasn't the first to use the words "a vile little man" someone else used it further up about Jason and was parodying that. But you didn't attack them for that. No, only me. Thanks for showing what is really behind your motivation.

Nice to see all the hysterical parents (read straight people) forming like a pack off dogs to openly attack a gay man for daring to bring into question anything involving children. So transparent it's laughable. Even when what was said is 100% the truth that still doesn't make the gay man right to question a straight person's moral does it.

Hysterical parents: When they don't have a paedophile to invent from nothing they form a lynch mob and attack the gay people. (Even when they speak the truth)

Fact is that Gary used his daughter to get votes by aiming for some of the very same posters on this thread. It's not news as everyone has been going on about it for months and Jason has every right to point it out.

Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers?
Totally Wicked
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by kazzy:
“Exactly, funny that some people think he had such a say in the way the programme was edited! To be honest it put me off Gary the way his daughter was paraded, but I doubt it was his fault!”

A simple word to the producers that he didn't want his child exploited in that way was all it would have taken, but no of course not, why kill the golden goose?

A responsible parent would not want such exploitation of their child on National TV by not fame hungry Mr Lucy.

And really in this day and age of now even allowing parents to film their own children at school plays and on the beach, exposing the child of a TV star on National TV is down right reckless! Now all the sick people know exactly what she looks like and that daddy has some money. Still all ok in the name of daddy's fame.
Totally Wicked
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by ABCZYX:
“I applaud you.

Yet again, Jason couldn't stop himself from being personal. I really fail to see just how what he said was constructive.

What gives him the right to be nasty about a little four/five year old girl? Now before anyone says anything, I do know what he said, and he wasn't nasty to her, but ABOUT her. ”

"Oh! Won't someone think of the children!"

Post quoted as it highlights absolutely everything I said.
vidalia
29-03-2010
We can only hope the child bit Jason at the after show party.
ecanus_angel
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“100% correct!

Why do some have such difficulty understanding reality?

All the ones going gaga over the kid on this tread is exactly why he did it! Obsessional parents who can't see a kid without ovulating are why featuring your daughter at every opportunity gets votes!

Why not face reality, people have been clearly pointing it out for weeks on here.

No one else constantly featured and stuck their brats in everyone faces, so how can anyone say that it's fair?

Grip on reality needed here!”

I TOTALLY agree with you. Not only that he made sure everytime he opened his mouth that he couldnt dance and skate before DOI emphasis on the DANCE.

I thought Keiron should have been in the final not Gary. Oh well he didnt win Gary did he even milking the kid lol. Jason is just Jason the programme would be boring without him lol.
k9fan
29-03-2010
It is time that Jason learned good manners. Sometimes it is far better not to say aloud what one is thinking.
vidalia
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“It is time that Jason learned good manners. Sometimes it is far better not to say aloud what one is thinking.”

I doubt if he would have that job if he did that.

Some might say that would be a good thing but I couldn't possibly comment.
mambo79
29-03-2010
I do think Gary's daughter featured in the show, VTs regularly and Jason was quick to see it as a vote-winning strategy. However I completely disagree with him as Gary appears to be a genuine guy who loves his daughter and wants the world to see how much she means to him. Nothing wrong with that.
Dancing Girl
29-03-2010
I must have fallen asleep as I did not hear Jason's comment!! When did he say it? I think all reality shows emphasise certain things about contestants. I bet the producers were devastated that Dan is gay otherwise we could have had VTs of the new romance between Dan and Hayley. They way they looked at each other when dancing on the ice make you believe they were in love with each other!! All acting, of course. Here in German on one show we had a 36 year old singiner actually filmed at the grave of his mother!!!! Take about tasteless. I think the producers will do just about anything to make a show popular. Have nasty judges, "heartbreaking" VT on the contestants (X Factor and Britain Has Talent do the same thing with the sob stories). Anything to generate more publicity, more phone in calls and more advertising!!! Its all down to money, money and more money!!!
dancingdemelza
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“HA HA HA! You fell right into the trap!

I wasn't the first to use the words "a vile little man" someone else used it further up about Jason and was parodying that. But you didn't attack them for that. No, only me. Thanks for showing what is really behind your motivation.

Nice to see all the hysterical parents (read straight people) forming like a pack off dogs to openly attack a gay man for daring to bring into question anything involving children. So transparent it's laughable. Even when what was said is 100% the truth that still doesn't make the gay man right to question a straight person's moral does it.

Hysterical parents: When they don't have a paedophile to invent from nothing they form a lynch mob and attack the gay people. (Even when they speak the truth)

Fact is that Gary used his daughter to get votes by aiming for some of the very same posters on this thread. It's not news as everyone has been going on about it for months and Jason has every right to point it out.

Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers? ”

You obviously have some serious issues that need to be sorted out. Have you thought of seeing a therapist? I am not a parent, in fact I dislike children, having taught for 30 years. I have no issues with gay people, as you seem to have. I do not follow celebrity "news".

Fact - 99% of what was filmed about the contestants ended up on the cutting room floor. The production team picked on one aspect of each contestant and chose to emphasise it. For Gary they chose the proud parent. It's done so that gullible people like you can decide whether to like a person or not depending on what the producers choose to show.

The only person who came across as he really is was that vile Jason Gardiner - the most unprofessional, biased and spiteful judge in the whole of TV entertainment. I am very glad the whole thing is over and the bile that comes out of his mouth won't be reported, hopefully, ever again if ITV see sense and don't employ him for the next series, if there is one.
Dancing Girl
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by sweetiepie31:
“Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.”

I think that just shows you it is all pantomine and Jason keeps to the script. Obviously, he thinks after the show is over he can go back to being "nice" Jason. I wish one of the competitors had taken Jason on during the show rather than stand meekly by as they are being told they are boring!!! It seems they only make any comments when they have left the show (e.g. Sharron) and remember the so-called confrontation between Sharron and Jason on Friday's DoI which was pathetic as all Sharron said was Jason upset my daughter!!!
Dancing Girl
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by dancingdemelza:
“You obviously have some serious issues that need to be sorted out. Have you thought of seeing a therapist? I am not a parent, in fact I dislike children, having taught for 30 years. I have no issues with gay people, as you seem to have. I do not follow celebrity "news".

Fact - 99% of what was filmed about the contestants ended up on the cutting room floor. The production team picked on one aspect of each contestant and chose to emphasise it. For Gary they chose the proud parent. It's done so that gullible people like you can decide whether to like a person or not depending on what the producers choose to show.

The only person who came across as he really is was that vile Jason Gardiner - the most unprofessional, biased and spiteful judge in the whole of TV entertainment. I am very glad the whole thing is over and the bile that comes out of his mouth won't be reported, hopefully, ever again if ITV see sense and don't employ him for the next series, if there is one.”

I agree, it seems if you criticise a gay man on DS you are immediately gay-bashing!

Sharron said the same thing about the producers regarding her disagreement with Chris and Jayne that the editing of the VT was unfair and done specifically to make the whole thing more dramatic and sensational. I am sure the producers do everything and use any angle to promote the show and get more viewers and telephone votes. Its all about money and selling advertising.
Great Dane
29-03-2010
Producers always show family in the audience so I think it was very unfair of Jason to single Gary out. I seem to remember that when either Tana or Daniella received negative comments the very next shot was of the children looking upset and frantically waving their signs urging us to vote for...
To be honest I didnt even bother watching the final as it was so predictable. I thought this series was a bit lacklustre and I know it's been said elsewhere but the format could do with a tweak. Having said all that will prob watch next year
blueabu
29-03-2010
He said 'you have played the kid card', and I had been thinking just that. Nothing against Gary except I cant stand all this 'I want to win for my litttle girl, please vote for me'. Never mind the fact that I am not the best performer, my child is so cute.
blueabu
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by sweetiepie31:
“Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.”

Well no, Jason called Gary a plonker didn't he so I am not surprised!
NoahsAark
29-03-2010
I don't blame Gary one little bit for not shaking Jason's hand. Wasn't it Jason who stomped off the show one week not shaking hands with (was it Sharon?) and said it would be hypocritical of him to do so.

After the nasty 'pillock' comments and his nastiness directed at Gary's daughter (completely un-necessary) - I would have done the same thing.
Droog83
29-03-2010
Must admit at the time when Jason said it I was thinking 'well, yeah it's true!" but then as others have said, it's at the feet of the producers what they show - they take one aspect of someone's 'journey' (shudder... hate that word!) and milk it for all it's worth, often to the detriment of the contestant (Gary as the doting father in this case, but also other contestants like Heather as the plucky amputee, Sharron as the competitive athlete etc). The amount of PR spin and politics behind the scenes this year has been so obvious to see it's a disgrace.

Quote:
“Philip just tweeted this:

One bit of gossip... Jason went to shake Gary's hand at the end and Gary was having none if it! There may have been words

Can't say I'm entirely surprised.”

Quote:
“I wonder whether Jason will be all insulted by this and convinently (sp?) forget that he refused to shake Sharron's hand a few weeks back?”

As has been said on many threads, Jason is hypocrisy personified so I think we can pretty much guarantee that this will be the case!
SheepdogNo1
29-03-2010
Just highlights what a threabare programme it is, from the abandoned cigar look of the lead presenter , with the dolly bird who can only show off her cleavage to get noticed , to a set of judges (save for Robin Cousins) who quite frankly are pathetic.

Jason Gardener has all the charm of a dead ant. Anybody can sit there & trot out what he does. I remember the series with his awaful attire , where he was impersonating Albert Steptoe with an Aids related illness , the man just revels in making controversial remarks to get attention, given that hes not got Hollow Wilowtrees assets he has to use his 'sharp' tongue to get himself noticed , whereas a true proffesional like Robin Cousins whos reputation does all the talking doesnt need to state guff to get attention & respect.

Proffesionalism is paramount & Jason Garderner is unproffesional.

winenroses
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“HA HA HA! You fell right into the trap!

I wasn't the first to use the words "a vile little man" someone else used it further up about Jason and was parodying that. But you didn't attack them for that. No, only me. Thanks for showing what is really behind your motivation.

Nice to see all the hysterical parents (read straight people) forming like a pack off dogs to openly attack a gay man for daring to bring into question anything involving children. So transparent it's laughable. Even when what was said is 100% the truth that still doesn't make the gay man right to question a straight person's moral does it.

Hysterical parents: When they don't have a paedophile to invent from nothing they form a lynch mob and attack the gay people. (Even when they speak the truth)

Fact is that Gary used his daughter to get votes by aiming for some of the very same posters on this thread. It's not news as everyone has been going on about it for months and Jason has every right to point it out.

Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers? ”

This wasn't addressed to me but I would like to emphasise the following:

I can practically guarantee that no-one on else up to the time of writing on this thread is even thinking about Jason being gay regarding the topic being discussed. 'Vile' is used because many people think he is just that, nothing to do with his being gay. His nastiness, spite, childishness, pettinesss and more in the same vein.....

As for the rest of your post, get a grip! It's not even relevant, just a mad rant.

I do hope you are not Jason, for Jason's sake. You are not helping his case.
lea_uk
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“HA HA HA! You fell right into the trap!

I wasn't the first to use the words "a vile little man" someone else used it further up about Jason and was parodying that. But you didn't attack them for that. No, only me. Thanks for showing what is really behind your motivation.

Nice to see all the hysterical parents (read straight people) forming like a pack off dogs to openly attack a gay man for daring to bring into question anything involving children. So transparent it's laughable. Even when what was said is 100% the truth that still doesn't make the gay man right to question a straight person's moral does it.

Hysterical parents: When they don't have a paedophile to invent from nothing they form a lynch mob and attack the gay people. (Even when they speak the truth)

Fact is that Gary used his daughter to get votes by aiming for some of the very same posters on this thread. It's not news as everyone has been going on about it for months and Jason has every right to point it out.

Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers? ”

What has Jason's sexuality got to do with anything?
You seem to have something against kids and people who actually like kids, what have they ever done to you?
barbieblue
29-03-2010
A very good gay friend of my said "Jason is the kind of guy who gets gays a bad name" After this series and all his spiteful personal remarks ,I entirely agree with him.
Daewos
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers? ”

As an openly gay man I can tell you that you are talking nonsense. Or you are a troll. I hope it is the latter as the idea that you are genuine is worrying. To have such a warped view of the world is sad. Just like your comments throughout these forums.

Or you can prove your case by pointing out all the anti-gay threads.
Chris1347
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Totally Wicked:
“HA HA HA! You fell right into the trap!

I wasn't the first to use the words "a vile little man" someone else used it further up about Jason and was parodying that. But you didn't attack them for that. No, only me. Thanks for showing what is really behind your motivation.

Nice to see all the hysterical parents (read straight people) forming like a pack off dogs to openly attack a gay man for daring to bring into question anything involving children. So transparent it's laughable. Even when what was said is 100% the truth that still doesn't make the gay man right to question a straight person's moral does it.

Hysterical parents: When they don't have a paedophile to invent from nothing they form a lynch mob and attack the gay people. (Even when they speak the truth)

Fact is that Gary used his daughter to get votes by aiming for some of the very same posters on this thread. It's not news as everyone has been going on about it for months and Jason has every right to point it out.

Still, why let reality and fact get in the way of a gay witchhunt by the "superior" baby producers? ”

Read your post and it sees to me you are hysterical not the posters that object to the rude nasty comments that Jason comes out with! He is not being attacked for being gay, no one cares about that it is his personal and unnecessary comments which are not constructive criticisms!
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