Reconditioned iphones on O2

satman17 · 29-03-2010, 06:57

Just seen that you can obtain reconditioned iphone on O2

http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphoneind...conditioned_3G

Has anyone taken this option if so what are they like?

KOP1975 · 29-03-2010, 13:56

I wouldnt.

The new ones are tempremental enough!

dontpannic · 29-03-2010, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOP1975

I wouldnt.

The new ones are tempremental enough!

Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends.

KOP1975 · 29-03-2010, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontpannic

Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends.

on my 3rd handset.

phone switches off for no reason and when I put it back on i get the emergency calls only screen and it asks me to sync to my pc.

also had 2 sims cards.

i hope the Iphone 4 is better than the 3g

r_mitchell85 · 29-03-2010, 17:02

I wouldn't want an Iphone, but if I did, I'd be happy to go for a reconditioned one.

my friend who works in a phone shop often tells me that if anything, they have fewer problems with reconditioned units, because they're subjected to much more intensive testing than off the production line units...

prking · 29-03-2010, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontpannic

Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends.

Apple have had some very well publicised problems with the iPhone. You've been quite lucky not to experience them.

The refurbished handsets are a good deal, they tend to be more reliable.

dontpannic · 29-03-2010, 17:34

What 'well publicised problems'? The only ones that have been publicised is the call dropping, and that's down to AT&Ts network in the US.

The stuck in standby issue has gone since 3.1.2 so I'm not quite sure what problems you think there are.

Let's put it this way, the iPhone is no more or less reliable than any other handset, look at Sony's recent abominations.

prking · 29-03-2010, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontpannic

What 'well publicised problems'? The only ones that have been publicised is the call dropping, and that's down to AT&Ts network in the US.

The stuck in standby issue has gone since 3.1.2 so I'm not quite sure what problems you think there are.

Let's put it this way, the iPhone is no more or less reliable than any other handset, look at Sony's recent abominations.

Just some examples: Yellow screens, overheating batteries, the famous screen goes dead until you shake the phone, back covers that come apart, problems with the connector, unresolved firmware problems with SMS, problems with data use even when data roaming is switched off etc etc.

I'd agree with you that its no more or less reliable than some other handsets (except the recent exceptional issues which were out of Apple's control). But that isn't what you said in your other post.

dontpannic · 29-03-2010, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

Just some examples: Yellow screens, overheating batteries, the famous screen goes dead until you shake the phone, back covers that come apart, problems with the connector, unresolved firmware problems with SMS, problems with data use even when data roaming is switched off etc etc.

I'd agree with you that its no more or less reliable than some other handsets (except the recent exceptional issues which were out of Apple's control). But that isn't what you said in your other post.

I'm sorry, could you go back over and provide 5 good examples per item on your list?

Yellow screens - the only apple related yellow screens are on the 27" iMac.
Overheating batteries - this was iPod touches. Batteries get warm when charging or in heavy use, the iPhone gets warmer as the battery is nearer the case rather than behind a panel
Screen dead until phone shook? What? That's a completely new one on me!!!
Back covers that come off - all depends how the phone is treated. I haven't seen any well documented examples though
Cable connector problems - this is when foreign objects get into the connector then become lodged. Quick fix with an air duster but Apple will swap out the phone same day.
SMS firmware issues? Explain please. SMS and MMS work fine...
Data roaming is only effective when abroad and terminates any mobile data usage when roaming.

I accept the phone has it's flaws but most of the above sound like brand new rubbish.

KOP1975 · 30-03-2010, 08:27

this morning my iphone has crashed again.
furth day running.

Its telling me it dont recongnize the sim - thats probably as it has had 4 different sims due to them all not working properly.

The iphone is a brilliant media device (email, ipod, facebook etc) but as a phone its (well my 2 anyway) are awful.

if you dont want to receive texts and calls then get an iphone if you want to use it as a phone then dont bother.

i can also never get a line out.

dontpannic · 30-03-2010, 08:31

Very strange. I know around 10 people with iPhones (2g, 3g, and 3gs) and nobody has had the same issues... Must be unlucky!

KOP1975 · 30-03-2010, 09:13

yep must be
2 iphones and getting my 5th sim today!

dontpannic · 30-03-2010, 09:15

Which iPhone is it out of interest?

prking · 30-03-2010, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontpannic

I'm sorry, could you go back over and provide 5 good examples per item on your list?

Yellow screens - the only apple related yellow screens are on the 27" iMac.
Overheating batteries - this was iPod touches. Batteries get warm when charging or in heavy use, the iPhone gets warmer as the battery is nearer the case rather than behind a panel
Screen dead until phone shook? What? That's a completely new one on me!!!
Back covers that come off - all depends how the phone is treated. I haven't seen any well documented examples though
Cable connector problems - this is when foreign objects get into the connector then become lodged. Quick fix with an air duster but Apple will swap out the phone same day.
SMS firmware issues? Explain please. SMS and MMS work fine...
Data roaming is only effective when abroad and terminates any mobile data usage when roaming.

I accept the phone has it's flaws but most of the above sound like brand new rubbish.

You really need to do some research before posting. I could go through and refute every point you make: The overheating battery problem is in an Apple advisory (they don't recommend the use of windscreen/dash mounted iPhone holders in cars as the battery temperature can exceed 45degrees C). The iMac problem was yellowing of the housing not the screen, have a look here for one of the first reports of the yellow screen problem http://gizmodo.com/5024292/some-ipho...g-a-bit-yellow.

If you want me to keep going I will!

dontpannic · 30-03-2010, 11:55

The thing is, this can be attributed to any handset, not just the iPhone.

You can't seriously say "Don't buy an iPhone but buy XXX manufacturers handset instead" knowing full well that they have problems too.

If you want an iPhone, get an iPhone its as simple as that. You have to remember that Apple have sold millions of iPhones and in each problem you've described it only affects a handful of devices.

The windscreen mount thing is silly - this is not iPhone specific. If you put a BLACK device in the windscreen of a car, be it an iPhone, GPS, anything, it will get hot!

prking · 30-03-2010, 13:38

I didn't say not to buy one, you were arguing that there were no well publicised issues with the iPhone and were refusing to believe what I and others said. I said the recon ones were more reliable. As for the mounting on a dashboard or windscreen, it wasn't general advice, in continuous use the iPhone battery gets hot putting it in a hot place like a car makes it even hotter. This is Apples advice, not mine and it applies to all colours of iPhone. Here is one of the articles which led to Apple issuing the advisory and shoes a white iPhone starting to go brown due to the heat (Without being near a car). http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/...at-turn-brown/

I'm glad that you or your friends haven't had issues, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

dontpannic · 30-03-2010, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

I'm glad that you or your friends haven't had issues, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

I have never said the iPhone doesn't have issues. Lets just get that one straight right now. All I said was that the issues you describe aren't as high profile and are not happening to all iPhones as you're making out.

prking · 30-03-2010, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by dontpannic

I have never said the iPhone doesn't have issues. Lets just get that one straight right now. All I said was that the issues you describe aren't as high profile and are not happening to all iPhones as you're making out.

I wish you would stop misquoting me. I didn't say all iPhones have all the issues. I said there were well publicised issues with 'new' iPhones and that recons are liable to be a better purchase. I've pointed you to sources including Wired, The Register, Gizmodo and Apple themselves. How much higher profile would you like?
I could go into the foxconn problems (which apply to nearly all Apple products) but I suspect you would even deny those.

Steve™ · 30-03-2010, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOP1975

I wouldnt.

The new ones are tempremental enough!

AGREED !!!!

I have just sold mine. Will NOT be buying another until they solve the poor reception issues.

It doesnt function well as a phone.

Avoid!

29-03-2010, 06:57	#1
satman17 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,978	Reconditioned iphones on O2 Just seen that you can obtain reconditioned iphone on O2 http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphoneind...conditioned_3G Has anyone taken this option if so what are they like?

29-03-2010, 13:56	#2
KOP1975 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 849	I wouldnt. The new ones are tempremental enough!

29-03-2010, 15:24	#3
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	Quote: Originally Posted by KOP1975 I wouldnt. The new ones are tempremental enough! Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends.

29-03-2010, 16:42	#4
KOP1975 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 849	Quote: Originally Posted by dontpannic Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends. on my 3rd handset. phone switches off for no reason and when I put it back on i get the emergency calls only screen and it asks me to sync to my pc. also had 2 sims cards. i hope the Iphone 4 is better than the 3g

29-03-2010, 17:02	#5
r_mitchell85 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,884	I wouldn't want an Iphone, but if I did, I'd be happy to go for a reconditioned one. my friend who works in a phone shop often tells me that if anything, they have fewer problems with reconditioned units, because they're subjected to much more intensive testing than off the production line units...

29-03-2010, 17:10	#6
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by dontpannic Since when? They are by far the most stable handset on the market, never had any issues with mine or close friends. Apple have had some very well publicised problems with the iPhone. You've been quite lucky not to experience them. The refurbished handsets are a good deal, they tend to be more reliable.

29-03-2010, 17:34	#7
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	What 'well publicised problems'? The only ones that have been publicised is the call dropping, and that's down to AT&Ts network in the US. The stuck in standby issue has gone since 3.1.2 so I'm not quite sure what problems you think there are. Let's put it this way, the iPhone is no more or less reliable than any other handset, look at Sony's recent abominations.

29-03-2010, 20:19	#8
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by dontpannic What 'well publicised problems'? The only ones that have been publicised is the call dropping, and that's down to AT&Ts network in the US. The stuck in standby issue has gone since 3.1.2 so I'm not quite sure what problems you think there are. Let's put it this way, the iPhone is no more or less reliable than any other handset, look at Sony's recent abominations. Just some examples: Yellow screens, overheating batteries, the famous screen goes dead until you shake the phone, back covers that come apart, problems with the connector, unresolved firmware problems with SMS, problems with data use even when data roaming is switched off etc etc. I'd agree with you that its no more or less reliable than some other handsets (except the recent exceptional issues which were out of Apple's control). But that isn't what you said in your other post.

29-03-2010, 21:35	#9
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	Quote: Originally Posted by prking Just some examples: Yellow screens, overheating batteries, the famous screen goes dead until you shake the phone, back covers that come apart, problems with the connector, unresolved firmware problems with SMS, problems with data use even when data roaming is switched off etc etc. I'd agree with you that its no more or less reliable than some other handsets (except the recent exceptional issues which were out of Apple's control). But that isn't what you said in your other post. I'm sorry, could you go back over and provide 5 good examples per item on your list? Yellow screens - the only apple related yellow screens are on the 27" iMac. Overheating batteries - this was iPod touches. Batteries get warm when charging or in heavy use, the iPhone gets warmer as the battery is nearer the case rather than behind a panel Screen dead until phone shook? What? That's a completely new one on me!!! Back covers that come off - all depends how the phone is treated. I haven't seen any well documented examples though Cable connector problems - this is when foreign objects get into the connector then become lodged. Quick fix with an air duster but Apple will swap out the phone same day. SMS firmware issues? Explain please. SMS and MMS work fine... Data roaming is only effective when abroad and terminates any mobile data usage when roaming. I accept the phone has it's flaws but most of the above sound like brand new rubbish.

30-03-2010, 08:27	#10
KOP1975 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 849	this morning my iphone has crashed again. furth day running. Its telling me it dont recongnize the sim - thats probably as it has had 4 different sims due to them all not working properly. The iphone is a brilliant media device (email, ipod, facebook etc) but as a phone its (well my 2 anyway) are awful. if you dont want to receive texts and calls then get an iphone if you want to use it as a phone then dont bother. i can also never get a line out.

30-03-2010, 08:31	#11
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	Very strange. I know around 10 people with iPhones (2g, 3g, and 3gs) and nobody has had the same issues... Must be unlucky!

30-03-2010, 09:13	#12
KOP1975 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Romford Posts: 849	yep must be 2 iphones and getting my 5th sim today!

30-03-2010, 09:15	#13
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	Which iPhone is it out of interest?

30-03-2010, 11:15	#14
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by dontpannic I'm sorry, could you go back over and provide 5 good examples per item on your list? Yellow screens - the only apple related yellow screens are on the 27" iMac. Overheating batteries - this was iPod touches. Batteries get warm when charging or in heavy use, the iPhone gets warmer as the battery is nearer the case rather than behind a panel Screen dead until phone shook? What? That's a completely new one on me!!! Back covers that come off - all depends how the phone is treated. I haven't seen any well documented examples though Cable connector problems - this is when foreign objects get into the connector then become lodged. Quick fix with an air duster but Apple will swap out the phone same day. SMS firmware issues? Explain please. SMS and MMS work fine... Data roaming is only effective when abroad and terminates any mobile data usage when roaming. I accept the phone has it's flaws but most of the above sound like brand new rubbish. You really need to do some research before posting. I could go through and refute every point you make: The overheating battery problem is in an Apple advisory (they don't recommend the use of windscreen/dash mounted iPhone holders in cars as the battery temperature can exceed 45degrees C). The iMac problem was yellowing of the housing not the screen, have a look here for one of the first reports of the yellow screen problem http://gizmodo.com/5024292/some-ipho...g-a-bit-yellow. If you want me to keep going I will!

30-03-2010, 11:55	#15
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	The thing is, this can be attributed to any handset, not just the iPhone. You can't seriously say "Don't buy an iPhone but buy XXX manufacturers handset instead" knowing full well that they have problems too. If you want an iPhone, get an iPhone its as simple as that. You have to remember that Apple have sold millions of iPhones and in each problem you've described it only affects a handful of devices. The windscreen mount thing is silly - this is not iPhone specific. If you put a BLACK device in the windscreen of a car, be it an iPhone, GPS, anything, it will get hot!

30-03-2010, 13:38	#16
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	I didn't say not to buy one, you were arguing that there were no well publicised issues with the iPhone and were refusing to believe what I and others said. I said the recon ones were more reliable. As for the mounting on a dashboard or windscreen, it wasn't general advice, in continuous use the iPhone battery gets hot putting it in a hot place like a car makes it even hotter. This is Apples advice, not mine and it applies to all colours of iPhone. Here is one of the articles which led to Apple issuing the advisory and shoes a white iPhone starting to go brown due to the heat (Without being near a car). http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/...at-turn-brown/ I'm glad that you or your friends haven't had issues, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

30-03-2010, 14:03	#17
dontpannic Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orpington, Kent Posts: 2,344	Quote: Originally Posted by prking I'm glad that you or your friends haven't had issues, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. I have never said the iPhone doesn't have issues. Lets just get that one straight right now. All I said was that the issues you describe aren't as high profile and are not happening to all iPhones as you're making out.

30-03-2010, 16:02	#18
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by dontpannic I have never said the iPhone doesn't have issues. Lets just get that one straight right now. All I said was that the issues you describe aren't as high profile and are not happening to all iPhones as you're making out. I wish you would stop misquoting me. I didn't say all iPhones have all the issues. I said there were well publicised issues with 'new' iPhones and that recons are liable to be a better purchase. I've pointed you to sources including Wired, The Register, Gizmodo and Apple themselves. How much higher profile would you like? I could go into the foxconn problems (which apply to nearly all Apple products) but I suspect you would even deny those.

30-03-2010, 16:32	#19
Steve™ Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glos / Hereford[shire] Posts: 6,709	Quote: Originally Posted by KOP1975 I wouldnt. The new ones are tempremental enough! AGREED !!!! I have just sold mine. Will NOT be buying another until they solve the poor reception issues. It doesnt function well as a phone. Avoid!

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