Nobody said he shouldn't go on about her, just not SO much!

It is also easy for his fans such as you to say he wasn't milking it.



I really wish you people would understand that nobody said he couldn't do it, he just did it TOO much!! a big difference!

And COMPLETELY your opinion ....

Some found it too much, others (like me) can't see what all the fuss is about.

Exactly! You have your opinion and i have mine so why feel the need to question others opinions if you already know this?

I am a cameraman and don't blame us as it's the director who asks us to get those shots.

Because if we didn't .... life on here would be very boring wouldn't it.

Maybe just for once I thought that people could give Gary some credit ... he didn't deserve to win - Hayley was the rigthtful winner - but still people have to bash him. He wasn't dull last night and pulled out some great performances, so the 'daughter' issue has been pounced on instead.

Yes it would be i suppose i just don't like getting into arguements (believe it or not ) when somebody doesn't agree with my opinion.

I personally like Gary, not his performances but him as a person i liked, so i am definitely one of those NOT bashing him. But as i said i just felt he went on abit too much about his daughter. I hope we can agree to disagree .

We can

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Not the cameramen's fault - the producers would have told them to "milk the kid thing" as Jason put it, but even so, they could only have done so with the parents' consent; they even showed Gary lifting India in what appeared to be their kitchen - so he posed for that shot; and to be honest, there were numerous occasions when he mentioned her.

Suzanne didn't mention her little boy as often as Gary mentioned his daughter but, but the cameras panned to him every week just as they did with Gary's daughter and when asked why she wanted to win her reply was along the lines of "Corey would love to see his mummy win."

That was entirely natural and I certainly didn't see it as a ploy to increase her share of the vote - on the contrary I voted for her throughout series 3. Gary's references to his daughter were similarly natural and imo the cynicism on this forum says more about the bitterness of those who saw Gary succeed at the expense of their own favourites.

As for speaking back to Jason - good for him. Jason had it coming and it was Gary's last opportunity to say what lot's of us were thinking.

btw - I've no axe to grind - my favourite won! Well done Hayley.

All Danniella ever said about her daughter was she wanted her to do the show cause she ice skated and she didn't want to let her kids down on the first show.

Does Sharron have kids they were never mentioned.

Gary endlessly goes on about his daughter and had a whole VT about her.

Oh well Gary LOST!!!

An excellent post. Agree 100%

Well said.

Well said Ignazio - as always you are totally spot on - another excellent post.

I think the main difference between Suzanne and Gary is that Suzanne's skating and performance were really good, while Gary's performances were not very enthralling. So his daughter seems to be a definite factor in why he got as far as he did. Nothing wrong with him mentioning his daughter at all, or anyone else, but if it is constant and seems to affect the outcome in the voting, then it does quite properly come in for questioning.

Is Jason doing the tour? That'll be fun with the 2 of them together for a few weeks.

Well Gary was in the skate off twice and his daughter didnt save him then....the judges did. Judges who could see how good he was on the skates.
I never once voted for him because of his daughter. I voted because he impressed me with his skating and the fact he went from a non skater and dancer to skating very well, lifting his partner with confidence and having a bloody good bash at the dancing.

Personally, I'd prefer it if none of them were allowed to mention their family/life story/struggle etc. For me it totally detracts from the point of the programme, be it Dancing on Ice, The X Factor or Britain's Got Talent.

For some unaccountable reason, the producers of these programmes now seem to feel that the general public have to know all about the contestant's personal life. In fact, not just know about it, but be reminded of it ad nauseum. Well sorry, but I'm just not interested. I mean, I didn't tune in to the Biography channel.

I thought India was incredibly cute by the way, but as someone said earlier - So what?

Well, at least he made the final

No. He has said something alog the lines that he doesn't want to mix with celebrities that he doesn't know or like.

That's a shame as he's good value

It's not Gary's fault... and the same thing happened last year with Colleen's daughter
who was often shown supporting her mother! Daniella's kids were shown too!
Remember how often Suzanne Shaw's son was shown when she was on??

Had Kieron and Hayley got any children, I expect they too would have been shown.....

Regarding whether or not the vile man is on the tour - originally posted by dancingdemelza:
"No. He has said something alog the lines that he doesn't want to mix with celebrities that he doesn't know or like."

Found his quotes - I got two muddled:

"As for the trail of skaters he's left licking their wounds? 'Why would I care about these people?' he asks. 'I only care about the opinions of the people I know and love. And I never read anything about myself.'

about the tour:

"'I said no last year because I'd just bought a house in Ibiza and was keen to do it up. Anyway, I have no interest in trailing round the country staying in hotels. Nor do I want to do nine shows a week with a bunch of celebrities, most of whom don't like me.'

Hmmm, I wonder why?

Again, people vote for all sorts of reaosons, to assume that a vast majority of people picked up the phone for Gary because he has mentioned his daughter and we have seen the camera pan to her a couple of times, is IMO, very simplistic.

Look at Nicky's blog (too lazy to find it, it's in one of the threads), and you will find that Nicky would probably have preferred Gary to win. Now do you think, he did that because of Gary's little daughter (maybe he is as gullible as the rest of us). No I don't think so. I was not a Gary supporter, but I didn't mind him. I would have loved Kieron to be second, but I don't think Gary was second because of his daughter. If Gary could have put more personality and exhuberance in his performance he could have probably won this.

Going back to series 2 Duncan James constantly spoke about his daughter, she was filmed backstage, at home and in the audience, nobody thought anything of it
Parents talk about their children

I agreed. I voted for Hayley and thought she thoroughly deserved the title of champion of 2010 DOI, but I thought Gary's Bolero performance was better than Hayley's. On his other final night performances, he did try to 'perform', and while I agree that I would like to see him 'act' more (he's an actor after all!), he did well considering.

As for the milking thing. He might do that a little, but I also agree that it's his safety blanket. It's easier to cope with the stress of having to perform and train with something you can aim for. Some aim for the trophy (I suspect Hayley was doing that, nothing wrong, I must add), some aim to please their loved ones who supported them unconditionally, others aim only to boost their exposure (so perhaps didn't put in as much effort, because it's the exposure that counts, not how far you go in the competition) etc.

It's unnerving having to see yourself being torn apart by Jason's comments week after week, and though still lacking, I can see Gary's trying to please Jason on the performance side of things.

Ironically, I could see Jason clapping enthusiastically after Gary's Bolero. When Robin seemed to focus on the negative thing about Gary's performance, you could also fleetingly see Jason's body language seemingly disagreeing with it.

I guess, it would have helped if the producers let more judges comment on the Bolero performance, not just the head-judge. Then Jason might actually say something positive about Gary at last, thus avoiding the completely understandable snub Gary's shown when Jason tried to shake his hands.