Pat not giving Janine an alibi - surely that doesn't work

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rudi

05-05-2004

Janine's trouble has always been that she makes up unsophisticated lies on the spot, without thinking them through. Almost every word she has said to the police has incriminated her further. I suppose the writers are trying to show that in life everybody eventually gets what's due to them. Natural justice if you like, where she gets her comeuppence for the one thing she wasn't to blame for.

The thing is, for a miscarraige of justice like this to work, it needs to be much more believeable. The devil is in the detail, and EE are just not showing how this could logically happen in real life.

This whole farrago of events is a travesty of a sham of two mockeries of a farce. (Thanks Woody Allen).

Rudi

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Any sudden death is automatically treated as suspicious by police, even if at first view it seems straightforward. This goes from cot deaths to elderly persons deaths. It would certainly include someone falling down the stairs.”

This is soapland. The dont work like that. You only have to look at the horlicks that was made over Barrys death fall. No investigation, no postmortem, body cremated ashes returned all within 48 hrs. Wonderful. They also never have any luck investigating anything there do they. Who shot Ian Beale, who cares. What about the Steve Owen job where he succesfully framed sad Matthew.

bilijojimbob

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“I do, mainly cos I sat throught it thinking "But WHY isn't she asking for a solicitor?" which distracted from the whole thing for me. Surely a call to Marcus the Wonder Brief would have been in order, he can't have much to do at the moment with Phil being away ”

Janine thinks she is above the law

rudi

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by drakaina:
“..... she has no need for an alibi.
She does need one for wearing that coat however, that must've been one enormous leopard! ”

Pat should be charge with wearing an offensive coat in a built up area!

Rudi

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by bilijojimbob:
“Janine thinks she is above the law”

I was going to say so does Leslie Grantham - But then he didnt really slander his fellow workers. It has to be lies to be slander

Lippincote

05-05-2004

Are EE really going to go for this? (haven't read the spoilers recently so not sure of the outcome). That would mean Janine languishing in jail for many months awaiting trial -- then they would have to show the trial next year at a time when Charlie B will be otherwise engaged in her fabulous new career in The Bill (and when we'd all completely forgotten about it and were immersed in another gangster love triangle storyline -- "Who Shot lil Mo?" perhaps). EE tends to prefer instant justice of a non-official variety. Either that or they go on the run like Fil.

rudi

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“Are EE really going to go for this? (haven't read the spoilers recently so not sure of the outcome). That would mean Janine languishing in jail for many months awaiting trial -- then they would have to show the trial next year at a time when Charlie B will be otherwise engaged in her fabulous new career in The Bill (and when we'd all completely forgotten about it and were immersed in another gangster love triangle storyline -- "Who Shot lil Mo?" perhaps). EE tends to prefer instant justice of a non-official variety. Either that or they go on the run like Fil.”

Hold on. Back up a minute. Charlie B in The Bill! Is this hard fact?

Rudi

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by rudi:
“Hold on. Back up a minute. Charlie B in The Bill! Is this hard fact?

Rudi ”

She comes in as Gabriella Kent an ex |RAF pilot who was adopted as a child as she was the illegitimate daughter of ................... .............................. Gina Gold

Honest

rudi

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by alan45:
“She comes in as Gabriella Kent an ex |RAF pilot who was adopted as a child as she was the illegitimate daughter of ................... .............................. Gina Gold

Honest ”

Oooh you !

Charlie B reminds me of my mother-in-law. All badness on the outside, mad mental evil incarnate on the inside. And that's on a good day!

Rudi

alan45

05-05-2004

All kidding aside I think Charlie B would be a good assett to the bill *- She could come in as a hard faced DI and wipe the floor with Fill and Sam.

* provided they give her a good storyline

rudi

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by alan45:
“All kidding aside I think Charlie B would be a good assett to the bill *- She could come in as a hard faced DI and wipe the floor with Fill and Sam.

* provided they give her a good storyline”

Isn't Charlie Brooks a bit young for DI. A DC on the make maybe, as she only looks 25 tops.

Rudi

Purity

05-05-2004

Apparently, Charlie Brooks has confirmed that these scenes will be her last - meaning that she either gets arrested, tried and sent down in the space of a week - or she does a runner to Spain (maybe she'll bump into Phil??)

Or, maybe, Pat will mention in passing in 6 months time that Janine has been been sentanced to life? If all else fails - she could then join Bad Girls!!

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by rudi:
“Isn't Charlie Brooks a bit young for DI. A DC on the make maybe, as she only looks 25 tops.

Rudi ”

She is in for accellerated promotion - slept her way to the top

Minnie Caldwell

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by Lippincote:
“Despite other possible assailants (ref birth certificate, phone call to Ian etc) there will be DNA evidence. Remember those scratches on Janine's face? Laura will have Janine's skin under her fingernails. Janine denied they 'fought', saying they just argued. That will be an obvious lie.”

She also dropped some kind of receipt in the flat, didn't she?

ray76709

05-05-2004

The Bill should be renamed "The old cast of eastenders reunited show" Bet thats where Lynne and garry end up

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by ray76709:
“The Bill should be renamed "The old cast of eastenders reunited show" Bet thats where Lynne and garry end up”

Heaven Forbid

rudi

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by ray76709:
“The Bill should be renamed "The old cast of eastenders reunited show" Bet thats where Lynne and garry end up”

Over my dead body.

Don't get your measuring tape out Alan45.

Rudi

alan45

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by rudi:
“Over my dead body.

Don't get your measuring tape out Alan45.

Rudi”

Well if they sent over someone the calibre of Gina Gold I wouldnt mind. But come to think of it they have no-one of that calibre left.

Plenty like the apeman though

wild rain

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by Merseymike:
“Who cares, lets just enjoy watching janine go down.”

Dont think they will show that before the watershed

SULLA

05-05-2004

Originally Posted by drakaina:
“Why would Pat need an alibi? She could say she's gone to see Janine and found she wasn't in. She could have been on the Bench of Woe, or the Swings of Misery or out shopping, as she has no need to prove she didn't have a cat fight with Laura on the landing or push Barry off a mountain she has no need for an alibi.
She does need one for wearing that coat however, that must've been one enormous leopard! ”

There are 2 issues here.

1. She is a potential suspect because she lives with laura and 'found' the body.

2. Janine stated that she was with Pat. If Pat denies this the defence would be entitled to ask her for evidence of where she actually was.

rudi

06-05-2004

Pat could also be said to have a motive, as she is grandmother to Ian''s eldest son, and Laura was keeping the knowledge of his youngest son, Bobby, from him. They could have easily been arguing over this. She has also been in jail for killing someone, and is a former prostitute.

Enough to warrant a closer look.

Rudi

alan45

06-05-2004

This looks like a case for ace supercop Gabriel Kent

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