The Ratings Thread (Part 8) (Merged)

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Cent

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Moving this to Thursday is really a disaster. Not so much for ratings as for the fact that the content is so dated by the time it airs. If anything they should have moved it to Saturdays and recorded on Friday nights.”

Surely the content is fresher? Given that its now earlier in the political week?

They still record the night before.

GeorgeS

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by Cent:
“Surely the content is fresher? Given that its now earlier in the political week?

They still record the night before.”

No. The debates are they key event of the week and they record the night before. So everything they say is out of date immediately

Brekkie

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by Rooftopcowboy:
“Still a good figure for the debate IMO is that Sky news' record rating?

despite it being on freeview, sky, virgin etc...a lot of people still have an inability to switch over from BBC1 and ITV1...so a drop off was a expected.”

Ridiculous isn't it - 95% of viewers have the service, but 50% don't bother. Will be interesting to see if it dented the soaps though.

And Sky are in no position to complain about the terrestrials not showing it considering they've been in the business of removing content from the terrestrials for 20 years. I doubt they'd have been too happy if one of them had come in and topped the Sky News ratings anyway.

dave01

23-04-2010

The Bill's replacement program only averaged 2.9m (11.9%) last night. That must be a bit of a kick in the teeth for ITV.

Last series of Griff Rhys Jones averaged 3.3m.
The Bill averaged 3.84m in the Thursday 9pm slot earlier this year.
The slot average in the first half of 2009 before The Bill moved there was 3.79m.

rzt

23-04-2010

Breakdown for BBC News and Sky News for last night:

Code:

.... .... BBC News... Sky News
19:00:00 ... 0.130 ... 0.141
19:15:00 ... 0.095 ... 0.144
19:30:00 ... 0.118 ... 0.173
19:45:00 ... 0.295 ... 0.445
20:00:00 ... 1.121 ... 1.748
20:15:00 ... 1.239 ... 2.000
20:30:00 ... 1.340 ... 2.186
20:45:00 ... 1.464 ... 2.269
21:00:00 ... 1.523 ... 2.334
21:15:00 ... 1.485 ... 2.213
21:30:00 ... 0.874 ... 1.604
21:45:00 ... 0.551 ... 1.160
22:00:00 ... 0.523 ... 0.645
22:15:00 ... 0.410 ... 0.535
22:30:00 ... 0.220 ... 0.337
22:45:00 ... 0.165 ... 0.269
23:00:00 ... 0.133 ... 0.227
23:15:00 ... 0.085 ... 0.201
23:30:00 ... 0.076 ... 0.195
23:45:00 ... 0.098 ... 0.173
00:00:00 ... 0.099 ... 0.122
00:15:00 ... 0.101 ... 0.112
00:30:00 ... 0.109 ... 0.080
00:45:00 ... 0.084 ... 0.065
01:00:00 ... 0.071 ... 0.068
01:15:00 ... 0.108 ... 0.058
01:30:00 ... 0.065 ... 0.046
01:45:00 ... 0.060 ... 0.038

During the debate itself, Sky News extended its lead over BBC News from 20:00-20:45. But for the following 45 minutes, BBC News made up a little bit of ground. Sky News was ahead of BBC News between 19:00 and 00:30. On a normal Thursday night, BBC News would usually have double Sky News' audience.

Originally Posted by dave01:
“The Bill's replacement program only averaged 2.9m (11.9%) last night. That must be a bit of a kick in the teeth for ITV.

Last series of Griff Rhys Jones averaged 3.3m.
The Bill averaged 3.84m in the Thursday 9pm slot earlier this year.
The slot average in the first half of 2009 before The Bill moved there was 3.79m.”

To be fair, The Bill wouldn't have got 3.84m last night due to the increased multichannel and channel Five competition. Previously, it went as low as 3.4m when Liverpool was playing on Five so last night it would've probably sunk to about 3m.

fodg09

23-04-2010

Thanks for that breakdown. While it will probably be reported as a huge drop from last week, I would say Sky and BBC News will be pretty pleased with those figures.

mr_scotty2hotty

23-04-2010

Did the extended ITV News at Ten rate well?

I thought it was a good programme!! Mark Austin and Julie Etchingham really make the News at Ten watchable

jake lyle

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“BBC ONE
Outnumbered – 5m (20.8%)

.”

Media guardian has 5.6m for this but the same share. Does anyone know which is right.

Quote:
“ Sky News

21:15:00 ... ... 2.213
21:30:00 ... ... 1.604
21:45:00 ... ... 1.160
22:00:00 ... ... 0.645
”

Nice to see the amount of viewers the awful Kay Burley scared away over the hour

Seriously why couldn't the use someone who is actually good and quick on their feet like Anna Botting.

Also interesting news abouut Wossys show tonight..

Quote:
“Ross interviews grounded stars via satellite23 April, 2010

Jonathan Ross has secured an appearance from three Hollywood stars on his BBC1 chat show despite the flight ban caused by the Icelandic volcano – with interviews via satellite.

Gwyneth Paltrow, Demi Moore and Robert Downey Jr had been due to appear on tonight’s Friday Night with Jonathan Ross, but their appearance was initially scrapped when flights were grounded in the UK due to volcanic ash erupting from the Eyjafjallajökull volcano.

Alongside planned guest Louis Spence, producer Hot Sauce TV brought in Jeremy Clarkson as a replacement guest and upgraded Paul Weller from a music-only appearance to a chat on the sofa.

At last night’s recording however, the Hollywood trio each spoke to Ross via satellite. Weller will now appear in performance only.
”

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...e?referrer=RSS

Steve Williams

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by Cent:
“Surely the content is fresher? Given that its now earlier in the political week?

They still record the night before.”

I've never understood the idea that you have to do reviews of the week's news at the weekend - it's still been a week since the last show. The news doesn't neatly fit into weeks. As for the debates, it affects only two shows - this week's and last week's - out of a series of eight and nobody knew what sort of audience they'd get, they may have said absolutely nothing. If Brown had massively cocked up his interview with Andrew Marr on Sunday, that would have overshadowed them.

rzt

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“Media guardian has 5.6m for this but the same share. Does anyone know which is right.”

MG definitely made a typo, it got 5m.

Agree about Kay Burley

. Sky News' audience nearly halved between 21:45-22:00, whereas BBC News was pretty much level in those 15 minutes.

dave01

23-04-2010

BBC1
22:00 BBC News - 5.07m (24.8%) - plus the 466k watching 10pm news simulcast on BBC news channel, so 5.54m in total
22:45 Question Time - 2.58 (22.3%)

ITV1
22:00 News At Ten - 1.86m (9.9%)

BBC2
22:30 Newsnight - 793k (5.7%)

ITV news was down on normal due to it being an hour long. BBC 10pm news seemed to be above average though. There were 600k watching Sky News between 10pm and 10:30pm as well.

partial source media guardian

gottago

23-04-2010

Well it was clearly very close between ITV News and BBC News then!

sn_22

23-04-2010

Pretty healthy for the debate. It was on in a lot of places so it all adds up. Sky News must be happy with their figure - I don't think they could have expected more, and at least they were comfortably ahead of the BBC News Channel - that could have been embarassing. I'm guessing about 7m or so for next weeks debate.

There's no doubt the debate and the football on Five put the squeeze on the main channels. BBC One held up best with EastEnders pulling a strong share, and HIGNFY and Outnumbered relatively solid. Watchdog crumbled a bit though. The soaps were limp for ITV (mind you, they tend to be on Thursdays) and Greatest Cities of the World did very poorly. It wasn't a great hit last series either and I don't think its prospects were ever especially high against the debates. It could be worse next week.

C14E

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Good news. It's actually a decent comedy panel show for ITV...even with Keith Lemon hosting. Not sure if it will match an audience that is good for ITV1 though? Could work with a good lead in...try it after BGT?”

It has really grown on me since it started. It's currently running 45 minutes so I guess they'll have to either increase to an hour or cut to 30 minutes for ITV1. Not sure when it's due to air but by the sounds of it the episode has Chris Moyles and Schofield (sounds like This Morning vs Radio 1).

Like you, I'm not sure where it would fit in. Perhaps after BGT on a Saturday would work well for it? Or maybe when BGT airs on Sunday (as it will have to the week of the CL Final) they could put it after that?

I know it sounds lazy, but I'd have done a BGT/XF special to give it a leg up.

D.M.N.

23-04-2010

Really good figures for the debate, as it very clearly dented the terrestrials. The soaps did poor, in particular Coronation Street appeared down.

I can see the BBC debate getting quite comfortably 9/10m with Coronation Street down to about 5 million and Griff down to 2 million. No, I'm not joking.

ZoeMcCallister

23-04-2010

The debate and the football really dented the four main terrestrials last night with Outnumbered the only standout figure, although that was on at the perfect time after the debate finished. Pretty much a big ouch for all the big four.

ZoeMcCallister

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Really good figures for the debate, as it very clearly dented the terrestrials. The soaps did poor, in particular Coronation Street appeared down.

I can see the BBC debate getting quite comfortably 9/10m with Coronation Street down to about 5 million and Griff down to 2 million. No, I'm not joking.”

It's certainly possible-if a debate on Sky can dent it to around 7m then a BBC1 debate will definetely send it below 6m and I think we will see the extremely rare position of seeing both episodes of Emmerdale beating Corrie.

Jaycee Dove

23-04-2010

Life of Riley is doing well, showing - with My Family - that no matter how corny there is still a market for traditional sitcoms if you have personable leads.

However, can there be another series - unless its Divorce of Riley or Affairs of Riley?

Neil Dudgeon starts filming as the new Barnarby in Midsommer Murders from July and that must take up most of the year to film given there are several feature lengthers per year.

Will he have time to do both? If ITV has not got him in some sort of exclusivity.

Guess they could recast the husband. It would be fun if John Nettles was interested....so the shows could swap Barnabies.

C14E

23-04-2010

After a not so amicable parting with Lou Dobbs where they handed over $8m, John King has completed his first month in that slot as a permanent replacement. The bad news for CNN is that he is down 47% in the key cable news ad demo (adults 25-54). Is that because viewers preferred Dobbs? Or mainly to do with the overall decline at CNN (where everything is down badly)?

CNN have placed as the 4th or 5th ranked cable news network on 61% of weekday nights this year. Regularly losing out to CNBC, Headline News and MSNBC.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/22...his-year/49482

CNN's President continues to insist that his strategy is right but something will eventually have to give. Some reports suggested that CNN was working on a new morning show which would "include personalities with dueling political ideologies and opinions".

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/cn...ow-pilot-15142

Vivadiva

23-04-2010

I was just wondering when people think/know the BGT final to be?

Thanks

D.M.N.

23-04-2010

Originally Posted by Vivadiva:
“I was just wondering when people think/know the BGT final to be?

Thanks”

Saturday 5th June.

C14E

23-04-2010

ABC:
8pm - Flash Forward - 5.56m (1.6)
9pm - Private Practice - 7.41m (2.3)

CBS:
8pm - Survivor - 11.78m (3.6)
9pm - CSI - 13.32m (2.8)
10pm - The Mentalist - 14.78m (3.0)

FOX:
8pm - Bones - 8.84m (2.5)
9pm - Fringe - 5.89m (2.1)

NBC:
8pm - Community - 3.91m (1.7)
8.30pm - 30 Rock - 4.22m (1.9)
9pm - The Office - 6.41m (3.3)
9.30pm - 30 Rock - 5.18m (2.5)
10pm - The Marriage Ref - 4.30m (1.9)

NBC's scheduling experiment didn't tell us anything we don't already know. 30 Rock isn't anything special without a lead-in from The Office.

Likewise, ABC's flip of Private Practice (with a Grey's Anatomy repeat at 10pm) just reminded us that it doesn't do that well without the big lead-in.

Community, CSI and The Marriage Ref set all time lows while The Office, Private Practice and Survivor set season lows.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/23...hit-lows/49499

michael777

23-04-2010

Was the debate simulcast live on Sky News and BBC News?

I thought it was on BBC 2/HD/News at around 11pm.

michael777

23-04-2010

And another question, does anybody know if the BARB Top 10/30 ratings on barb.co.uk include people watching in HD?

Apart from BBC HD etc which have separate schedules to the parent channel.

D.M.N.

23-04-2010

You won't find many changes in the ITV1 schedule for Friday 7th May, only Jeremy Kyle been replaced by Election 2010 - schedule afterwards is as expected.

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