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The Ratings Thread (Part 8) (Merged)
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PJMillar
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“It's not so much the scheduling, it's the writing that is to fault. There is no rule in place that soaps need to follow a certain time frame, though most the British ones seem to (Hollyoaks for example rarely covers the weekend!).

It's not a problem for the Aussie soaps - fair enough they're scheduled as soaps should be, stripped across the week, but they rarely reference one day to the next and indeed with Home and Away especially aren't afraid to drop continuing storylines completely for a couple of episodes to concentrate on something else.”

Yeah, but EastEnders has two or more episodes that follow the same day....

For the writing, Emmerdale is top notch at present. Corrie is definitely the problem at the moment...awful...awful...awful.
Andy23
24-04-2010
ITV used to get slammed for being lazy when they used to do this, but I think they should go back to showing drama repeats on Friday nights. Maybe run them 8-10pm straight after Corrie.

As we keep being told that EastEnders skews younger (and will get even younger the way current characters are going) and Frost etc skews older, there shouldn't be much cross over audience at 8pm.

Any entertainment formats they've got planned could move to either Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday at 9pm.

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With another nice day in prospect, I can see Doctor Who being dented again due to the early scheduling.
jonnyblack
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“With another nice day in prospect, I can see Doctor Who being dented again due to the early scheduling.”

I think i must live in a separate weather system, everytime someone on this thread says the weathers looking good I look outside and see rain and grey skies
rzt
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“ITV used to get slammed for being lazy when they used to do this, but I think they should go back to showing drama repeats on Friday nights. Maybe run them 8-10pm straight after Corrie.

As we keep being told that EastEnders skews younger (and will get even younger the way current characters are going) and Frost etc skews older, there shouldn't be much cross over audience at 8pm.

Any entertainment formats they've got planned could move to either Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday at 9pm.”

Yeah, I think that's probably the way to go. But would you want drama repeats all year round? And what about Paul O'Grady's show?

I think they should see how PoG works out on Fridays for about 10 episodes, move Life Stories to Fridays for 10 episodes where it'd probably get 3-4m (provided the guests are okay - that means no Joan Collins or Michael Winner!) and have repeats for the remaining 30 weeks of the year.

The displaced Corrie could then move to Tuesday 8pm to prop up the evening, switch Corrie and Emmerdale around on Thursdays for 'symmetry'. Corrie's schedule would end up: Mon 19:30 & 20:30, Tue 20:00, Thu 20:00, Fri 19:30.

Who Wants To Be A Millionaire could be moved to Sundays 7pm where it'd get a slightly better audience of 3.5-4.0m and would fill some of the weeks between DOI and Family Fortunes/X Factor.
D.M.N.
24-04-2010
Poor ratings last night on the whole again. ITV did appallingly outside the soaps. EastEnders did well, its share is very good for a Friday night.

To 'complete' the primetime ratings for the main 5:

BBC Two
18:00 - Eggheads: 1.78m (11.7%)
18:30 - Great British Menu: 1.92m (11.7%)
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20:30 - Gardeners' World: 2.07m (9.5%)
21:00 - India's Hospital Train - Lifeline Express: 1.79m (8.1%)
22:00 - Frank Skinner's Opinionated: 1.65m (8.5%)

ITV1
22:00 - ITV News At Ten: 1.64m (8.5%)
22:30 - ITV Regional News: 1.39m (7.8%)

Channel 4
20:00 - Glee: under 1.31m
21:00 - Embarrassing Bodies: Back To The Clinic: 1.96m (8.8%)

Five
21:00 - The Mentalist: 1.94m (8.7%)

Skinner did well for BBC Two in what is not the best of slots for the channel.
GeorgeS
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
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Most shows down compared to last week. Marco's heading towards Michael Winner territory! The difference being that Dining Stars was clearly meant to be a cheap daytime sort of show whereas I reckon ITV had higher expectations for Kitchen Burnout - another 5 weeks to go!”

Its clear that ITV viewers dont like cooking. Perhaps a series on microwave meals might do better?
Glenn A
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Its clear that ITV viewers dont like cooking. Perhaps a series on microwave meals might do better? ”

Should be called Marco's Ratings Burnout as it is slipping further and further behind. Also a recorded reality show seems to defeat the object as these things work better live. Maybe this could see ITV1 ditch new reality commissions as nothing in the last 4 years seems to have done much.
GeorgeS
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Should be called Marco's Ratings Burnout as it is slipping further and further behind. Also a recorded reality show seems to defeat the object as these things work better live. Maybe this could see ITV1 ditch new reality commissions as nothing in the last 4 years seems to have done much.”

No. They just need to find the right formula. Cooking is a middle class obsession that sustained Ch 4 (along with property porn) through the last 10 years.

My sense is that there is a new mood in the country as characterised by the energised election. I think class is still a bigger issue in the UK than people admit (Cameron would be 10% higher in the polls if he didnt have the misfortune to be born on the right side of the tracks). So I would try something that involved taking people out of their normal comfort zone. I know its been done on things like The Secret Millionaire and Tower Block Of Commons, but it hasnt been done in a big event tv way that only ITV can do.
Charnham
24-04-2010
like did E20 do on BBC 3?
dan2008
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The BBC won't move EE around as the current EE schedule is strong ratings-wise. ITV tried to effectively force the BBC to move 'Enders to another night when they had the weekly Emmerdale hour long episodes but the BBC stuck by their guns. The consequences of EE moving from Tuesday to Wednesday nights would be:

- Holby City losing about half a million
- EastEnders losing about a million
- Waterloo Road gaining about half a million

It really would not be worth it. Such a move would help ITV out more than the BBC!”

The BBC never like to move their soaps around and i for one want EastEnders to stay in it's slots as they are now.

I wonder how EastEnders is going to do on Monday for the big exit episode and after last nights cliffhanger im sure people will tune in.

Strange how the Big episode is a monday this time
rzt
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I know its been done on things like The Secret Millionaire and Tower Block Of Commons, but it hasnt been done in a big event tv way that only ITV can do.”

BBC1 aired Famous, Rich and Jobless earlier this year and that struggled to get 4m. Something like that would probably rate similar or even worse on ITV1.

Edit: ITV1 aired Seven Days on the Breadline last year which had a similar premise and that averaged 3-4m , which isn't too bad compared to how a lot of their shows are rating atm but not great either.
D.M.N.
24-04-2010
Friday 23rd April 2010
BBC1 - Breakfast: 1.42m (32.5%)
ITV1 - GMTV: 0.97m (22.1%)
- On Monday and Wednesday, the gap was 0.6m.

And as for This Morning, yesterday it had 0.95m compared to about 1.3m for BBC One's lineup.

Ouch at both. Chiles can't come soon enough for GMTV.

Thanks to MattJ for the ratings
dan2008
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 23rd April 2010
BBC1 - Breakfast: 1.42m (32.5%)
ITV1 - GMTV: 0.97m (22.1%)
- On Monday and Wednesday, the gap was 0.6m.

And as for This Morning, yesterday it had 0.95m compared to about 1.3m for BBC One's lineup.

Ouch at both. Chiles can't come soon enough for GMTV.”

Not surprised!
I doubt Chiles moving to GMTV will actually make the ratings much higher and i think he will regret this move
and expect to see him back at the BBC when his contract ends(when ever that might be)
No loss anyway because he's annoying.

Anything on EastEnders reapt and E20?
Brekkie
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 23rd April 2010
BBC1 - Breakfast: 1.42m (32.5%)
ITV1 - GMTV: 0.97m (22.1%)
- On Monday and Wednesday, the gap was 0.6m.


Ouch at both. Chiles can't come soon enough for GMTV.”

Well apparently it won't be "GMTV" that Chiles is presenting.

Any breakdown of how the breakfast audience varies from 6am-9.30am - when does it peak?

If rumours are to be belived Lorraine Kelly's strand will become a show in it's own right so I'm guessing that'll air from 8.30am, with whatever "GMTV" becomes airing 6.00-8.30am.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Channel 4
20:00 - Glee: under 1.31m
21:00 - Embarrassing Bodies: Back To The Clinic: 1.96m (8.8%)”

Anything for the Ricky Gervais Show on C4? I can't stand the man myself but strangely found myself looking forward to these shows, and enjoyed it immensely. I think 10.30pm directly against Jonathan Ross is a bit of a mistake though - it's surely more deserving of the 10pm slot than Facejacker.
GeorgeS
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“BBC1 aired Famous, Rich and Jobless earlier this year and that struggled to get 4m. Something like that would probably rate similar or even worse on ITV1.

Edit: ITV1 aired Seven Days on the Breadline last year which had a similar premise and that averaged 3-4m , which isn't too bad compared to how a lot of their shows are rating atm but not great either.”

I was thinking more Big Brother with real people If I had the concept perfected I would be pitching it!
D.M.N.
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Well apparently it won't be "GMTV" that Chiles is presenting.

Any breakdown of how the breakfast audience varies from 6am-9.30am - when does it peak?”

Normally it peaks about 8:30am before the kids leave, but I've seen Breakfast peak a bit later, suggesting its age group audience is higher.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Anything for the Ricky Gervais Show on C4? I can't stand the man myself but strangely found myself looking forward to these shows, and enjoyed it immensely. I think 10.30pm directly against Jonathan Ross is a bit of a mistake though - it's surely more deserving of the 10pm slot than Facejacker.”

Both under 1.31m. Hopefully Digital Spy or more likely Media Guardian report specific numbers.
GeorgeS
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 23rd April 2010
BBC1 - Breakfast: 1.42m (32.5%)
ITV1 - GMTV: 0.97m (22.1%)
- On Monday and Wednesday, the gap was 0.6m.

And as for This Morning, yesterday it had 0.95m compared to about 1.3m for BBC One's lineup.

Ouch at both. Chiles can't come soon enough for GMTV.

Thanks to MattJ for the ratings”

I'm not sure how & if ITV can win daytime without sacrificing its important demographics which advertisers want, namely housewives with children. If ITV wanted to gross up the GMTV figures they would have put Alan Titchmarsh on GMTV but that would be a massive tunoff to the key demo. Chiles is actually a risk for GMTV as his main audience to date on TOS has been 50+ middle England. I doubt they watch much breakfast tv, but if they do it will be Breakfast.
Glenn A
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Friday 23rd April 2010
BBC1 - Breakfast: 1.42m (32.5%)
ITV1 - GMTV: 0.97m (22.1%)
- On Monday and Wednesday, the gap was 0.6m.

And as for This Morning, yesterday it had 0.95m compared to about 1.3m for BBC One's lineup.

Ouch at both. Chiles can't come soon enough for GMTV.

Thanks to MattJ for the ratings”

Maybe time for a revamp of ITV1's schedule in the morningd then, like I've been saying for months. Whatever emotional attachment ITV has for This Morning has to go as its glory days were the nineties and it's never been the same since you know who left 9 years ago. Surely now is the time to axe what has become a very dated format.
Also GMTV's trashy, gossipy nature has started to grate on viewers nerves and viewers want something other than news they can get out of a tabloid and mindless gossip. Maybe Chiles, who is an experienced journalist, can restore its fortunes and a move to a more gender neutral programme would work.
Charnham
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Poor ratings last night on the whole again. ITV did appallingly outside the soaps. EastEnders did well, its share is very good for a Friday night..”

I dont think Corrie did well to be honest. (certainly the 2nd one)

Ashes to Ashes continues to under preform.

Worryingly I think Dickinson's Real Deal won the time slot.
rzt
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I was thinking more Big Brother with real people If I had the concept perfected I would be pitching it!”

So you're basically saying Big Brother ?
D.M.N.
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Worryingly I think Dickinson's Real Deal won the time slot.”

Outside of EastEnders, it did.
Charnham
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Outside of EastEnders, it did.”

oh yeah,
C14E
24-04-2010
Deadline reports that David Tennant's near dead NBC pilot might have some life in it again. Producers tinkered with the pilot and it tested well. Rex is Not Your Lawyer stars Tennant in the title role as a lawyer who suffers panic attacks and has to coach his clients to represent themselves in court.

Elsewhere, remakes and spin-offs are the biggest certainties. Law & Order: Los Angeles is ordered, The Rockford Files looks likely and CBS have the Criminal Minds spin-off and Hawaii Five-O.

JJ Abrams new NBC pilot about a husband and wife in the CIA is apparently "fantastic" and Jerry Bruckheimer has a new procedural called "Chase" which sounds like Without a Trace but hunting America's most wanted criminals rather than missing people.

"Mr Sunshine", the new sitcom starring Matthew Perry is the hottest show at ABC right now and expected to be paired with Courtney Cox's "Cougar Town" next season. Apparently they're running behind on drama pilots with nothing shot yet.

CBS have some buzz around their comedy development. Chuck Lorre's "Mike & Molly", comedy about a couple who struggle with overeating and meet at overeaters anonymous, apparently had a great taping. William Shatner's new show "Bleep My Dad Says" (originally "Sh*t My Dad Says") is also going down well. Their only concern is where to schedule them.

FOX have a near certainty with "Breakout Kings", a drama about ex-fugitives who are recruited to work as u.s. marshals. Deadline reports "sky-high testing marks" and it's from Peter Chernin's Prod Co. He's Rupert Murdoch's former #2 who was given a handsome production deal that requires FOX to order series from his new company or face financial penalties.

The CW may be looking for an international co-production partner on Nomads, a drama about a group of nearly broke young backpackers traveling the world who agree to earn money by working secret missions for the cia. Do we think any UK broadcaster would be interested?

Hellcats, a drama set in the world of competitive college cheerleading, stars Ashley Tisdale and is apparently looking good as is Nikita, a drama based on the film/television franchise about an assassin for a top-secret government organization who goes rogue and the new assassin who is trained to replace her. The CW seem to be moving away from drama about rich kids.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/04/prim...more-hot-list/
http://thefutoncritic.com/devwatch/
Charnham
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by C14E:
“The CW may be looking for an international co-production partner on Nomads, a drama about a group of nearly broke young backpackers traveling the world who agree to earn money by working secret missions for the cia. Do we think any UK broadcaster would be interested?”

im sure the CIA will be thrilled about this project.

Im pretty sure the CIA has higher recuirtment standards than broke backpackers.

Good news for Tennant.
Brekkie
24-04-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Normally it peaks about 8:30am before the kids leave, but I've seen Breakfast peak a bit later, suggesting its age group audience is higher.

Both under 1.31m. Hopefully Digital Spy or more likely Media Guardian report specific numbers. ”

Cheers. I know it needs a chance to bed into it's new slot, but on the surface a very foolish mistake to move Glee from Sunday 5.30pm where it was getting 1.5m+.

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Maybe time for a revamp of ITV1's schedule in the morning then, like I've been saying for months. Whatever emotional attachment ITV has for This Morning has to go as its glory days were the nineties and it's never been the same since you know who left 9 years ago. Surely now is the time to axe what has become a very dated format.”

You obviously don't watch then. It may not rate as well as it should, but it's infinitely better than the BBC's daytime offerings and anything that ITV could replace it with - whilst Holly arriving has breathed new life into the show and given it a hype it hasn't had for years. I'd hazard a guess too that whether or not ratings have raised in the past year it's probably bringing in more ad revenue now than it did a year ago due to that hype too.
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