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Hmm, I'm not sure about Jonathan Ross. He'd be fine on it but I doubt he'd bring many new viewers in and wouldn't be much if at all better than Piers, who is surprisingly funny on it. Charlotte Church would be good, but if these Lloyd Webber shows run on an annual basis again it may be problematic for her to quit one show to join their biggest rival. Her, Piers and Simon would be a good line up. If they could replace piers with a big star name then they should go for it but I don't think there's a great deal of point in replacing him with Jonathan Ross. Effectively, it would be replacing one chat show host with another chat show host whose chat show gets lower ratings (and Piers frequently points out!).
I do think that Piers plays his part well (the embarrassing uncle) but J.R is a tabloid magnet. Quote:
Paul O'Grady will probably do reasonably well but they aren't going to be able to get him to do it all year round and so far none of their other Friday entertainment ideas have worked, and they're showing no signs of coming up with any others that will work (I don't think 71 Degrees North or Magic Numbers are set for Fridays), so unless they get something going quickly they could find themselves in a situation like Sundays in 2008 when the soaps were moved for Dancing on Ice and no thought had gone in to what was going to be shown there once DOI had finished, and it took them 18 months to get it sorted.
I think they should get 2 extended runs out of Paul O'Grady (12-14 weeks in spring and the same in the autumn). Something like Comedy Rocks would fill the gaps and they could just have some drama repeats over the summer. Quote:
Push The Button hasn't worked and it's back to the drawing board for Ant and Dec. I don't know whether coming up with their own formats is the best idea for the near future for them, it may be better to go with something ITV give them for now
They did devise Pokerface. The problem with this one was that it was always setting out to be a show like Takeaway but that wasn't Takeaway. Not sure where they go next. Because they need a 3rd show (I'm A Celebrity is only 3 weeks, BGT is just 8). Quote:
Obviously big, big names won't do it but examples of people who probably would, and who's episodes would do well include Davina McCall, Alan Sugar, Paul O'Grady, Gordon Ramsay, Noel Edmonds and probably plenty more. ITV just need to actually think when they're casting for the next series, and get people who are actually popular.
I think there would be a chance of them all doing it as well. As I said, fewer episodes with stronger guests across the series.
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Frost normally starts at 9pm doesn't it?
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Is ITV ditching the 8.30 Friday Coronation St episode as it is the lowest rating of the five? I still think ITV would be better emploiyed showing films between 8 and 10 on Fridays as a good film will attract a wider demographic.
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MasterChef has no chance of beating Frost whatsoever. The last series of Frost got about 8.5m despite being in the middle of a crap ITV schedule with a lead in from Britannia High and airing against popular (ie. 6m+) stuff on BBC1. Tonight will be very close though, I predict:m
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Is ITV ditching the 8.30 Friday Coronation St episode as it is the lowest rating of the five? I still think ITV would be better emploiyed showing films between 8 and 10 on Fridays as a good film will attract a wider demographic.
Corrie's demographic isn't that bad, it has around the same number of ABC1s as EastEnders and more than most other programmes. |
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Easter Saturday 4th April Overnights
BBC One 08:00- F1 Qualifying: 2.2m (31.5%) 10:30- Saturday Kitchen Live: 1.8m (23.8%) 12:00- BBC News: 1.8m (22.6%) 15:10- The Boat Race: 3.6m (26.8%) 17:20- All New Total Wipeout: 3.9m (22.8%) 18:20- Doctor Who: 7.7m (36.8%) , HD: 0.338m 19:25- Over The Rainbow: 5.5m (26.1%) 20:40- The National Lottery: Who Dares Wins: 5.3m (24.1%) 21:30- Casualty: 5.5m (25.3%) 22:20- BBC News: 4.8m (23.7%) 22:30- Match of the Day: 4.0m (26.2%) BBC Two 19:45- The Great Offices of State: 0.9m (4.0%) 20:45- Dad's Army: 1.7m (7.6%) 21:15- Have I Got a Bit More News For You: 1.7m ( 7.7%) ITV1 16:20- Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: 2.9m (16.8%) 18:55- Harry Hill's the Best of TV Burp: 3.5m (16.0%) 19:25- Ant and Dec's Push the Button: 3.9m (18.6%) 20:25- The Door: 3.5m (15.9%) 21:25- Piers Morgan's Life Stories: 2.9m (13.5%) Channel 4 17:40- Come Dine with Me: 1.8m ( 1.6%) 18:15- Come Dine with Me: 2.1m (9.8%) 18:45- Channel 4 News: 1.4m ( 6.6%) 19:00- Blitz: London's Firestorm: 1.1m (5.1%) Five 20:00- CSI: 1.2m (5.5%) 21:00- CSI: NY: 1.7m ( 7.7%) 22:00- Law and Order: 1.1m (5.5%) Primetime Shares (based on breakdown) BBC1: 26% ITV1: 15% Channel 4: 7% Five: 6% BBC2: 5% Probably echoing a few others: Dr Who good start with 8 million, though the episode a bit too long and I dont think the earlier than 7.00 starts help it. The crunch will come when the weather teases people outdoors and depending on how the new guy shapes up, there could be the chance of some of Dr Who's lowest ratings I reckon. Im with Robbie Sykes on this -the show should run from January in the dark nights-it was never meant for 30 degrees in midsummer-though Tennant pulled some spectacular ratings even so. Over the Rainbow-the BBC's flagship public based reality show, 5.5 million is less than spectacular and I get the feeling its not going to increase much. Its watchable but more than any other Lloyd Webber effort, the contestants are too similar in age looks and sound and I dont think that will resonate with the public. As for all the rest-Who Dares Wins is very watchable and its a good gameshow, but falls down its only hole when the two contestants so obviously know all of the answers. I would have flatlined on that Simpsons question as I have never seen an episode. Good shares for that and the rest of the BBC schedule. As for ITV, counting the minutes until BGT for definite. Failure for Ant and Dec in Saturday night terms, it will be interesting to see the effect that BGT has on the surrounding ITV shows and whether there is a lift. And BGT itself -no Susan Boyle clone seemingly so again interesting to see if it claims the mass imagination of the public like it so clearly did last year. |
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Do you really think 2m people will tune in to watch the second part of a show having missed the first part?
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Yeah, I'm sure it's started at 9pm more often than 8pm. As ZoeM points out, it's actually better off starting after Corrie and going into that 10pm hour. I'm sure it'll be ITV1's most watched drama this year.
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It's hard to predict BGT launch ratings this year. I remember the launch episode of X Factor last year actually fell from the year before despite coming in off of BGT but overall the auditions did well and obviously the rest of the series really took off.
BGT definitely needs to be better this year. Susan Boyle carried it last year. They need fewer street dancers and singers. The final last year was excellent but the semi-finals had been really poor and some of the audition episodes really lacked anyone particularly good. |
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Masterchef will get crushed tomorrow and I think it will only win Tuesday at 9pm as it faces stiff competition from football and I would say it will get high 5m-low 6m for the finale which is good but in comparison to what it got on BBC Two, it isn't fantastic.
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Possibly, yes. The last ever Prime Suspect two parter went up a lot for part two (about 7m to 8.5m) and that didn't air against Joanthan Creek for part one. A lot of people will record Frost tonight and watch it tomorrow to catch up in time to watch part two live tomorrow night.
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I think they should get 2 extended runs out of Paul O'Grady (12-14 weeks in spring and the same in the autumn). Something like Comedy Rocks would fill the gaps and they could just have some drama repeats over the summer.
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They did devise Pokerface. The problem with this one was that it was always setting out to be a show like Takeaway but that wasn't Takeaway. Not sure where they go next. Because they need a 3rd show (I'm A Celebrity is only 3 weeks, BGT is just 8).
They definately need a third show and realy ITV could do with giving them a fourth show too. Perhaps they could do a new format for next Spring and bring Takeaway back to run in the Summer, billing it as a big comeback? That'd mean they've got something decent running on Saturdays all year round.Quote:
I think there would be a chance of them all doing it as well. As I said, fewer episodes with stronger guests across the series.
One eight episode run per year behind The X Factor in the Autumn would be ideal, as they'd be able to get good guests each week. Perhaps they could extend the length of his travel series a bit to sweeten the cut for him and to get their money's worth.Quote:
It's hard to predict BGT launch ratings this year. I remember the launch episode of X Factor last year actually fell from the year before despite coming in off of BGT but overall the auditions did well and obviously the rest of the series really took off.
BGT definitely needs to be better this year. Susan Boyle carried it last year. They need fewer street dancers and singers. The final last year was excellent but the semi-finals had been really poor and some of the audition episodes really lacked anyone particularly good. Quote:
In ratings terms though Masterchef has done a good job, never spectacular but taking the edge off ITV's soaps when in opposition and arguably the most compulsive filler show there is.
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Firstly, I've never understood the idea that seeing a headline related to a TV show they don't like in a newspaper or magazine can annoy someone. It's quite peculiar.
But anyway, I've definitely been conscious of lots of hype around last nights opener. Naturally BGT gets more because it has far more viewers but last year that hype only really got going after the first episode, not before it. Even as someone who isn't even slightly interested in Doctor Who, I have seen lots of promotion of Matt Smith, particularly on Radio 1. However, I'm not mad about this so there's no need for any smilies and my watching/reading/listening hasn't been ruined simply by the mention of someone on a show I don't watch.![]() Because you obviously like the show, you probably don't realise the hype but there's nothing wrong that at all, I think it's great for TV shows to have this as it makes them more exciting. What I was saying was that it gets rather tiresome hearing about it in the press all the time during it's two month run, as someone who doesn't really follow it. Each to their own. ![]() A show that can get 19m viewers for a final in this day in age deserves kudos and a round of applause either way. |
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I think Frost will comfortably win tonight tbh. I'd say 8m or so for him tonight and possibly more tomorrow night. Hope I'm not being overly ambitious with that though! Creek will get 6-6.5m I reckon...can definitely see Frost winning, particularly with it being his final two episodes too.
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I apologise for daring to criticise BGT and for having my own 'peculiar' opinion that differs from most people.
![]() Because you obviously like the show, you probably don't realise the hype but there's nothing wrong that at all, I think it's great for TV shows to have this as it makes them more exciting. What I was saying was that it gets rather tiresome hearing about it in the press all the time during it's two month run, as someone who doesn't really follow it. Each to their own. ![]()
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It wasn't just specific to BGT. It's the same for all TV shows. As I said, I'm no fan of Doctor Who and I keep hearing about the new guy but it hasn't been ruining radio and television for me. Same for something like I'm A Celebrity which gets loads of attention when it's on.
![]() . I agree that it happens to other shows but I suppose it's the way TV has been rejuvinated these past couple of years with big event TV.
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The difference is with BGT that the hype and press gets more and more after each show. You get people saying did you see him/her and then the contestants are interviewed on GMTV, This Morning and there are all the tabloid stories about the contestants family life/history. With Doctor Who the promotion will die right down now the series has started with only the odd trailer in the week.
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I don't know why ITV are persisting with entertainment on a Friday night.
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In an ideal world, Five wouldn't be showing Neighbours on Bank holidays, but they've been bounced into it by some bright spark in Australia who decided to lever "Monday on Neighbours" segments into all the Friday episodes and "This week on Neighbours" segments into all the Monday episodes, forcing other broadcaters to mirror Ten's Mon-Fri broadcast pattern.
Its not like those promos are even helping, as we have discussed previous ratings have been doing nothing but dropping for months now. I really dont get TENs attitude they are doing everything but what they need to, which is axing Susan Bower, as we are seeing with Hollyoaks it takes a while for any new producer to get a soap turned around, the longer TEN leaves it, the worse it will get. TEN cant even take 2 months off, so the changes are all in place when it gets back, the only thing they could do is end on the Friday, and declare Mondays episode to be an alternate reality. |
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In an ideal world, Five wouldn't be showing Neighbours on Bank holidays, but they've been bounced into it by some bright spark in Australia who decided to lever "Monday on Neighbours" segments into all the Friday episodes and "This week on Neighbours" segments into all the Monday episodes, forcing other broadcaters to mirror Ten's Mon-Fri broadcast pattern.
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In an ideal world, Five wouldn't be showing Neighbours on Bank holidays, but they've been bounced into it by some bright spark in Australia who decided to lever "Monday on Neighbours" segments into all the Friday episodes and "This week on Neighbours" segments into all the Monday episodes, forcing other broadcaters to mirror Ten's Mon-Fri broadcast pattern.
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That's true. Sky's pre-match and post-match talk is among the most dull I've ever witnessed so could have dragged the average down quite a bit.
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The usual stupid scheduling from BBC2 - would have made much more sense to keep Match of the Day on BBC1 and have the full F1 race on BBC2.
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Frost will undoubtedly win tomorrow night. Tonights could be close but I'd perhaps offer Frost the edge, particularly with the Corrie lead-in. I'm backing both for between 6 and 8 million. Frost to top that figure on Monday night.
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I've read about tomorrow's Frost in a few magazines, and I now think tomorrow's episode will be huge. ITV have filmed two endings -
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smilies and my watching/reading/listening hasn't been ruined simply by the mention of someone on a show I don't watch.
. I agree that it happens to other shows but I suppose it's the way TV has been rejuvinated these past couple of years with big event TV.

